notorious Texas playboy

Donald Munro

Paul G. wrote:
> I found one grain of truth in there that I agree with: "As the expressions
> "blue-state" and "red-state" indicate, progressives and conservatives in
> America today are different tribes." -Paul

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wIHrLci6Fw>

SLAVE of THE STATE

On Jun 26, 9:42*am, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
> On Jun 25, 10:55*pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <rcousine-5094DD.17522625062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]>,
> > *Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > In article
> > > <6e75ce1a-c705-4a9c-8679-67f417714...@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
> > > *"Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jun 24, 10:07*pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > > <928b702c-311d-474e-adf5-3a921ba39...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > *SLAVE of THE STATE <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jun 24, 1:44*pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > [I]f you are
> > > > > > > familiar with the NYT from the front of the book (news
> > > > > > > coverage), you may not realize that in fact it does leaven
> > > > > > > the serious paper-of-record stuff with articles explicitly
> > > > > > > devoted to Stupid Shit.
>
> > > > > > Yeah, like peppering the pages with stuff from this guy for example:
> > > > > >http://www.econjournalwatch.org/pdf...terIssuesJanuar...
>
> > > > > > "Investigating him is a way of investigating the larger cultural
> > > > > > phenomenon."
>
> > > > > > Indeed -- the NYT sometimes informs us by the left hand.
>
> > > > > One of these days SoS is going to discover Mencious Moldbug, and his
> > > > > rhetoric here is just going to get way, way crazier.
>
> > > > Way crazier than attempting to make a point by posting a link to a 25
> > > > page eye-glazing .pdf?
> > > > -Paul
>
> > > Yes.
>
> > > <http://unqualified-reservations.blo...cracy-as-histor
> > > ical-phenomenon.html>
>
> > > <http://unqualified-reservations.blo...-letter-to-open
> > > -minded-progressives.html>
>
> > > It would have been easier to find had I spelled it properly.
>
> > > I don't actually think Mencius Moldbug is _right_, per se, but I think
> > > he is wrong in maddeningly fascinating ways.
>
> > > In my dark moments, I suspect he's a moderate conservative's Naomi Klein
> > > or Noam Chomsky: you think you disagree with him, but his ideas are
> > > devilishly attractive.
>
> > He mentions violence and has little to say about it.
> > I propose the formal view of violence: an individual
> > condones, incites, offers, and does violence because
> > he feels like it.

http://www.2blowhards.com/archives/...al_version.html

> So if someone was beating you and attempting to take your wallet, and
> you defended yourself by fighting back, it would be because "you felt
> like it"?
>
> I propose the formal view of not just violence, but a formal
> philosophy of life: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto
> you." *From this flows "enlightened self-interest".

Big notDumbThisTime Paul,

I've brought up this bedrock moral value -- also known as the golden
rule -- before in this forum, although I personally prefer the
negative phrasing of it. No one cares or understands how it arose or
works as an interpersonal (social) rule of conduct. That's because
rbr, like everywhere else, is loaded up with impaired capacity we-meme
borgites. Or maybe they are just plain dumb, or were trained in
publik skools, or who knows???... (Me.) I hope I have adequately
insulted folks, although it never seems to be enough.

Everyone's friend,
SoTS

SLAVE of THE STATE

On Jun 26, 9:42*am, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
> On Jun 25, 10:55*pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <rcousine-5094DD.17522625062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]>,
> > *Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > In article
> > > <6e75ce1a-c705-4a9c-8679-67f417714...@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
> > > *"Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jun 24, 10:07*pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > > <928b702c-311d-474e-adf5-3a921ba39...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > *SLAVE of THE STATE <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jun 24, 1:44*pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > [I]f you are
> > > > > > > familiar with the NYT from the front of the book (news
> > > > > > > coverage), you may not realize that in fact it does leaven
> > > > > > > the serious paper-of-record stuff with articles explicitly
> > > > > > > devoted to Stupid Shit.
>
> > > > > > Yeah, like peppering the pages with stuff from this guy for example:
> > > > > >http://www.econjournalwatch.org/pdf...terIssuesJanuar...
>
> > > > > > "Investigating him is a way of investigating the larger cultural
> > > > > > phenomenon."
>
> > > > > > Indeed -- the NYT sometimes informs us by the left hand.
>
> > > > > One of these days SoS is going to discover Mencious Moldbug, and his
> > > > > rhetoric here is just going to get way, way crazier.
>
> > > > Way crazier than attempting to make a point by posting a link to a 25
> > > > page eye-glazing .pdf?
> > > > -Paul
>
> > > Yes.
>
> > > <http://unqualified-reservations.blo...cracy-as-histor
> > > ical-phenomenon.html>
>
> > > <http://unqualified-reservations.blo...-letter-to-open
> > > -minded-progressives.html>
>
> > > It would have been easier to find had I spelled it properly.
>
> > > I don't actually think Mencius Moldbug is _right_, per se, but I think
> > > he is wrong in maddeningly fascinating ways.
>
> > > In my dark moments, I suspect he's a moderate conservative's Naomi Klein
> > > or Noam Chomsky: you think you disagree with him, but his ideas are
> > > devilishly attractive.
>
> > He mentions violence and has little to say about it.
> > I propose the formal view of violence: an individual
> > condones, incites, offers, and does violence because
> > he feels like it.

http://www.2blowhards.com/archives/...al_version.html

> So if someone was beating you and attempting to take your wallet, and
> you defended yourself by fighting back, it would be because "you felt
> like it"?
>
> I propose the formal view of not just violence, but a formal
> philosophy of life: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto
> you." *From this flows "enlightened self-interest".

Big notDumbThisTime Paul,

I've brought up this bedrock moral value -- also known as the golden
rule -- before in this forum, although I personally prefer the
negative phrasing of it. No one cares or understands how it arose or
works as an interpersonal (social) rule of conduct. That's because
rbr, like everywhere else, is loaded up with impaired capacity we-meme
borgites. Or maybe they are just plain dumb, or were trained in
publik skools, or who knows???... (Me.) I hope I have adequately
insulted folks, although it never seems to be enough.

Everyone's friend,
SoTS

Donald Munro

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
> I hope I have adequately insulted folks, although it
> never seems to be enough.

If you run out of insults you can always fall back on the
Kunich klassic and call them all gay.

> Everyone's friend,
> SoTS

We all love you (while you supply us with free afternoon training rides;
me I did some cruise intervals this afternoon).

Donald Munro

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
> I hope I have adequately insulted folks, although it
> never seems to be enough.

If you run out of insults you can always fall back on the
Kunich klassic and call them all gay.

> Everyone's friend,
> SoTS

We all love you (while you supply us with free afternoon training rides;
me I did some cruise intervals this afternoon).

Fred Fredburger

Ryan Cousineau wrote:

> <http://unqualified-reservations.blo...cracy-as-histor
> ical-phenomenon.html>
>
> <http://unqualified-reservations.blo...-letter-to-open
> -minded-progressives.html>
>
> It would have been easier to find had I spelled it properly.
>
> I don't actually think Mencius Moldbug is _right_, per se, but I think
> he is wrong in maddeningly fascinating ways.

He needs to ramble less. He could have the secret to the universe hidden
there and I'd never make it that far. You can only digress so many times
before I go find something less pointless to do. Like reading and
posting to RBR, perhaps.

Fred Fredburger

Ryan Cousineau wrote:

> <http://unqualified-reservations.blo...cracy-as-histor
> ical-phenomenon.html>
>
> <http://unqualified-reservations.blo...-letter-to-open
> -minded-progressives.html>
>
> It would have been easier to find had I spelled it properly.
>
> I don't actually think Mencius Moldbug is _right_, per se, but I think
> he is wrong in maddeningly fascinating ways.

He needs to ramble less. He could have the secret to the universe hidden
there and I'd never make it that far. You can only digress so many times
before I go find something less pointless to do. Like reading and
posting to RBR, perhaps.

Fred Fredburger

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
> On Jun 26, 9:42 am, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 25, 10:55 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> In article
>>> <rcousine-5094DD.17522625062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]>,
>>> Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> In article
>>>> <6e75ce1a-c705-4a9c-8679-67f417714...@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 24, 10:07 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In article
>>>>>> <928b702c-311d-474e-adf5-3a921ba39...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>> SLAVE of THE STATE <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jun 24, 1:44 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> [I]f you are
>>>>>>>> familiar with the NYT from the front of the book (news
>>>>>>>> coverage), you may not realize that in fact it does leaven
>>>>>>>> the serious paper-of-record stuff with articles explicitly
>>>>>>>> devoted to Stupid Shit.
>>>>>>> Yeah, like peppering the pages with stuff from this guy for example:
>>>>>>> http://www.econjournalwatch.org/pdf...terIssuesJanuar...
>>>>>>> "Investigating him is a way of investigating the larger cultural
>>>>>>> phenomenon."
>>>>>>> Indeed -- the NYT sometimes informs us by the left hand.
>>>>>> One of these days SoS is going to discover Mencious Moldbug, and his
>>>>>> rhetoric here is just going to get way, way crazier.
>>>>> Way crazier than attempting to make a point by posting a link to a 25
>>>>> page eye-glazing .pdf?
>>>>> -Paul
>>>> Yes.
>>>> <http://unqualified-reservations.blo...cracy-as-histor
>>>> ical-phenomenon.html>
>>>> <http://unqualified-reservations.blo...-letter-to-open
>>>> -minded-progressives.html>
>>>> It would have been easier to find had I spelled it properly.
>>>> I don't actually think Mencius Moldbug is _right_, per se, but I think
>>>> he is wrong in maddeningly fascinating ways.
>>>> In my dark moments, I suspect he's a moderate conservative's Naomi Klein
>>>> or Noam Chomsky: you think you disagree with him, but his ideas are
>>>> devilishly attractive.
>>> He mentions violence and has little to say about it.
>>> I propose the formal view of violence: an individual
>>> condones, incites, offers, and does violence because
>>> he feels like it.
>
> http://www.2blowhards.com/archives/...al_version.html
>
>> So if someone was beating you and attempting to take your wallet, and
>> you defended yourself by fighting back, it would be because "you felt
>> like it"?
>>
>> I propose the formal view of not just violence, but a formal
>> philosophy of life: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto
>> you." From this flows "enlightened self-interest".
>
> Big notDumbThisTime Paul,
>
> I've brought up this bedrock moral value -- also known as the golden
> rule -- before in this forum, although I personally prefer the
> negative phrasing of it. No one cares or understands how it arose or
> works as an interpersonal (social) rule of conduct. That's because
> rbr, like everywhere else, is loaded up with impaired capacity we-meme
> borgites. Or maybe they are just plain dumb, or were trained in
> publik skools, or who knows???... (Me.) I hope I have adequately
> insulted folks, although it never seems to be enough.
>
> Everyone's friend,
> SoTS

Face it, Slave: You are one of we.

An explanation requested: How does being a we-meme borgite prevent
someone from understanding "Do unto others ..." or, conversely, how does
NOT being a WMB aid understanding?

I've got my own ideas, but they're tied up with religion and I suspect
that yours are not.

Fred Fredburger

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
> On Jun 26, 9:42 am, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 25, 10:55 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> In article
>>> <rcousine-5094DD.17522625062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]>,
>>> Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> In article
>>>> <6e75ce1a-c705-4a9c-8679-67f417714...@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 24, 10:07 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In article
>>>>>> <928b702c-311d-474e-adf5-3a921ba39...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>> SLAVE of THE STATE <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jun 24, 1:44 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> [I]f you are
>>>>>>>> familiar with the NYT from the front of the book (news
>>>>>>>> coverage), you may not realize that in fact it does leaven
>>>>>>>> the serious paper-of-record stuff with articles explicitly
>>>>>>>> devoted to Stupid Shit.
>>>>>>> Yeah, like peppering the pages with stuff from this guy for example:
>>>>>>> http://www.econjournalwatch.org/pdf...terIssuesJanuar...
>>>>>>> "Investigating him is a way of investigating the larger cultural
>>>>>>> phenomenon."
>>>>>>> Indeed -- the NYT sometimes informs us by the left hand.
>>>>>> One of these days SoS is going to discover Mencious Moldbug, and his
>>>>>> rhetoric here is just going to get way, way crazier.
>>>>> Way crazier than attempting to make a point by posting a link to a 25
>>>>> page eye-glazing .pdf?
>>>>> -Paul
>>>> Yes.
>>>> <http://unqualified-reservations.blo...cracy-as-histor
>>>> ical-phenomenon.html>
>>>> <http://unqualified-reservations.blo...-letter-to-open
>>>> -minded-progressives.html>
>>>> It would have been easier to find had I spelled it properly.
>>>> I don't actually think Mencius Moldbug is _right_, per se, but I think
>>>> he is wrong in maddeningly fascinating ways.
>>>> In my dark moments, I suspect he's a moderate conservative's Naomi Klein
>>>> or Noam Chomsky: you think you disagree with him, but his ideas are
>>>> devilishly attractive.
>>> He mentions violence and has little to say about it.
>>> I propose the formal view of violence: an individual
>>> condones, incites, offers, and does violence because
>>> he feels like it.
>
> http://www.2blowhards.com/archives/...al_version.html
>
>> So if someone was beating you and attempting to take your wallet, and
>> you defended yourself by fighting back, it would be because "you felt
>> like it"?
>>
>> I propose the formal view of not just violence, but a formal
>> philosophy of life: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto
>> you." From this flows "enlightened self-interest".
>
> Big notDumbThisTime Paul,
>
> I've brought up this bedrock moral value -- also known as the golden
> rule -- before in this forum, although I personally prefer the
> negative phrasing of it. No one cares or understands how it arose or
> works as an interpersonal (social) rule of conduct. That's because
> rbr, like everywhere else, is loaded up with impaired capacity we-meme
> borgites. Or maybe they are just plain dumb, or were trained in
> publik skools, or who knows???... (Me.) I hope I have adequately
> insulted folks, although it never seems to be enough.
>
> Everyone's friend,
> SoTS

Face it, Slave: You are one of we.

An explanation requested: How does being a we-meme borgite prevent
someone from understanding "Do unto others ..." or, conversely, how does
NOT being a WMB aid understanding?

I've got my own ideas, but they're tied up with religion and I suspect
that yours are not.

Donald Munro

Fred Fredburger wrote:
> He needs to ramble less. He could have the secret to the universe hidden
> there and I'd never make it that far. You can only digress so many times
> before I go find something less pointless to do. Like reading and posting
> to RBR, perhaps.

The meaning of the universe and everything is encapsulated
in rbr. Absurdity rulez.

Fred Fredburger

Donald Munro wrote:
> Fred Fredburger wrote:
>> He needs to ramble less. He could have the secret to the universe hidden
>> there and I'd never make it that far. You can only digress so many times
>> before I go find something less pointless to do. Like reading and posting
>> to RBR, perhaps.
>
> The meaning of the universe and everything is encapsulated
> in rbr. Absurdity rulez.
>
>

ALL HAIL ABSURDITY!

(I think a raspberry might be appropriate)

Paul G.

On Jun 26, 10:23*am, SLAVE of THE STATE <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
> On Jun 26, 9:42*am, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 25, 10:55*pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > > In article
> > > <rcousine-5094DD.17522625062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]>,
> > > *Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > In article
> > > > <6e75ce1a-c705-4a9c-8679-67f417714...@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > *"Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jun 24, 10:07*pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > <928b702c-311d-474e-adf5-3a921ba39...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > > *SLAVE of THE STATE <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Jun 24, 1:44*pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > [I]f you are
> > > > > > > > familiar with the NYT from the front of the book (news
> > > > > > > > coverage), you may not realize that in fact it does leaven
> > > > > > > > the serious paper-of-record stuff with articles explicitly
> > > > > > > > devoted to Stupid Shit.
>
> > > > > > > Yeah, like peppering the pages with stuff from this guy for example:
> > > > > > >http://www.econjournalwatch.org/pdf...terIssuesJanuar...
>
> > > > > > > "Investigating him is a way of investigating the larger cultural
> > > > > > > phenomenon."
>
> > > > > > > Indeed -- the NYT sometimes informs us by the left hand.
>
> > > > > > One of these days SoS is going to discover Mencious Moldbug, and his
> > > > > > rhetoric here is just going to get way, way crazier.
>
> > > > > Way crazier than attempting to make a point by posting a link to a 25
> > > > > page eye-glazing .pdf?
> > > > > -Paul
>
> > > > Yes.
>
> > > > <http://unqualified-reservations.blo...cracy-as-histor
> > > > ical-phenomenon.html>
>
> > > > <http://unqualified-reservations.blo...-letter-to-open
> > > > -minded-progressives.html>
>
> > > > It would have been easier to find had I spelled it properly.
>
> > > > I don't actually think Mencius Moldbug is _right_, per se, but I think
> > > > he is wrong in maddeningly fascinating ways.
>
> > > > In my dark moments, I suspect he's a moderate conservative's Naomi Klein
> > > > or Noam Chomsky: you think you disagree with him, but his ideas are
> > > > devilishly attractive.
>
> > > He mentions violence and has little to say about it.
> > > I propose the formal view of violence: an individual
> > > condones, incites, offers, and does violence because
> > > he feels like it.
>
> http://www.2blowhards.com/archives/...al_version.html
>
> > So if someone was beating you and attempting to take your wallet, and
> > you defended yourself by fighting back, it would be because "you felt
> > like it"?
>
> > I propose the formal view of not just violence, but a formal
> > philosophy of life: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto
> > you." *From this flows "enlightened self-interest".
>
> Big notDumbThisTime Paul,
>
> I've brought up this bedrock moral value -- also known as the golden
> rule -- before in this forum, although I personally prefer the
> negative phrasing of it.
> No one cares or understands how it arose or
> works as an interpersonal (social) rule of conduct. *That's because
> rbr, like everywhere else, is loaded up with impaired capacity we-meme
> borgites. *Or maybe they are just plain dumb, or were trained in
> publik skools, or who knows???... (Me.) *I hope I have adequately
> insulted folks, although it never seems to be enough.
>
> Everyone's friend,
> SoTS

Interesting. I have you pegged you as someone with tunnel vision
focused on "Me Me Me!". People who think nothing of bulldozing a rare
cactus typically treat people the same way.
-Paul

Paul G.

On Jun 26, 10:45*am, Fred Fredburger
<FredFredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > <http://unqualified-reservations.blo...cracy-as-histor
> > ical-phenomenon.html>
>
> > <http://unqualified-reservations.blo...-letter-to-open
> > -minded-progressives.html>
>
> > It would have been easier to find had I spelled it properly.
>
> > I don't actually think Mencius Moldbug is _right_, per se, but I think
> > he is wrong in maddeningly fascinating ways.
>
> He needs to ramble less. He could have the secret to the universe hidden
> there and I'd never make it that far. You can only digress so many times
> before I go find something less pointless to do. Like reading and
> posting to RBR, perhaps.

Yeah. Munroe should give him some lessons on brevity being the soul of
wit.
-Paul

Bill C

On Jun 26, 3:51*pm, Fred Fredburger
<FredFredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
> Donald Munro wrote:
> > Fred Fredburger wrote:
> >> He needs to ramble less. He could have the secret to the universe hidden
> >> there and I'd never make it that far. You can only digress so many times
> >> before I go find something less pointless to do. Like reading and posting
> >> to RBR, perhaps.
>
> > The meaning of the universe and everything is encapsulated
> > in rbr. Absurdity rulez.
>
> ALL HAIL ABSURDITY!
>
> (I think a raspberry might be appropriate)

Principia Discordia | the book of Chaos, Discord and Confusion |
Fnord!
Or, How I Found the Goddess and What I Did to Her When I Found Her.

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/
Bill C