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"Booker Bense" <bbense@slac.stanford.edu> wrote in message
news:g3rjrt$vlp$1@news.stanford.edu... > In article <485f1a96$0$17197$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, > <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org> wrote: >>These links work ideally in a clean demonstration but once used, the >>clearance between side plate and inner link becomes contaminated with >>road grit so that the link cannot be squeezed together enough for its >>pin ends to disengage their retention recesses. These links must be >>pressed together laterally for separation. >> >>For this reason pliers are must be used (lengthwise) diagonally >>pressing against the side plates at the fixed ends of their pins to >>both presses the plates against the inner links and to push in the >>direction of disengagement. This means that otherwise chain >>separation on-the-road is impractical. >> >>Ideally the link needs a thorough solvent cleaning to make it once >>more separate like a new link. True grit is where it's at! > > You are completely wrong on this one. There is a trick, once > learned every 9spd SRAM link will easily come apart with just > your hands. You've convinced yourself that the hard way is the > only way. > > I can't really explain the trick well, but basically get the > chain loose, make a Z with the link as the slash on the Z > and apply a "shearing squeeze" to the links. ( Smear the link, > not squeeze it.) > > It took me more than a few tries to get this, but once mastered > it's worked with every 9sp SRAM chain I've used over the last > 6 years. Just so it's plain - today while climbing the local hill road I do most Tuesdays, my chain popped apart at the link. I found the missing end and it was VERY hard to get the link to go together since it was somewhat gritty. Finally I got it together and we completed the ride. After getting it home I attempted to pull and clean the chain. The master link would NOT come apart until I used a pair of pliers on it. The pliers pushed in and together at the same time since I had it zigged across the link. I have built racing motors for cars and motorcycles. I was a professional AMA mechanic and we won races with some national numbers riding our motorcycles. I met and talked with a lot of really important mechanics such as Tom Sifton, Jack London (the stock car/midget mechanic/sponsor not the author) and people of their stature. I have whittled my collection of bikes down from 16 to about 10 right now. I build all of my own bikes save twice when I felt really flush. I've been a mechanic since early childhood. I'm now in my 60's. Listening to people like you making the claim that somehow I don't know what I'm doing and you can tell me what to do from a distance is pretty funny. |
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Booker Bense wrote:
> In article <485f1a96$0$17197$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, > <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org> wrote: >> These links work ideally in a clean demonstration but once used, the >> clearance between side plate and inner link becomes contaminated with >> road grit so that the link cannot be squeezed together enough for its >> pin ends to disengage their retention recesses. These links must be >> pressed together laterally for separation. >> >> For this reason pliers are must be used (lengthwise) diagonally >> pressing against the side plates at the fixed ends of their pins to >> both presses the plates against the inner links and to push in the >> direction of disengagement. This means that otherwise chain >> separation on-the-road is impractical. >> >> Ideally the link needs a thorough solvent cleaning to make it once >> more separate like a new link. True grit is where it's at! >> >> Jobst Brandt > > > You are completely wrong on this one. There is a trick, once > learned every 9spd SRAM link will easily come apart with just > your hands. You've convinced yourself that the hard way is the > only way. > > I can't really explain the trick well, but basically get the > chain loose, make a Z with the link as the slash on the Z > and apply a "shearing squeeze" to the links. ( Smear the link, > not squeeze it.) > > It took me more than a few tries to get this, but once mastered > it's worked with every 9sp SRAM chain I've used over the last > 6 years. > jeepers dude, this is a piss-fest - attempted enlightenment of the heathen is not welcome. stand in like to complain and swear it's impossible like all the rest can'tcha? |
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I've been using the SRAM powerlinks for about 7 years. I always remove
the chain for cleaning. I've tried all the removal methods mentioned here except the one that mentions using WD 40 to remove grit first. In my personal experience there is a 20% chance that I will not be able to remove the link by simply squeezing the ends toward each other. Just last week I wanted to replace my old chain but couldn't get the powerlink to disengage. I struggled with it for about 10 minutes before I finally surrendered and reached for the chain tool. In retrospect I'd say the powerlink was packed with grit as I hadn't cleaned the chain in about a year. But anyway, most of the time the powerlink works as advertised but if I were going to rely on it coming apart easily by hand in the field... I don't know If I'd leave home without the trusty chain tool. |
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"Davy" <me@removeallthistextchobham.org.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns9AC5E27C4DD9Bmeremoveallthistextc@216.196.109.145... > My cycle has a SRAM chain with a removable link. Can > anyone advise on how to remove the link? > Davy I used to use pliers but now I can get a 9-speed SRAM link removed quickly and reliably by hand every time. The trick is to place a thumb and finger over the plates where the pin is permanently attached. Push gently together while bending the chain side to side as far as it goes. This action pushes any grit away and loosens the pin. I think high end SRAM chains are rubbish but their joining link is the best. I use them with my XTR / Dura Ace chains but their pins wear much quicker than the other links so they always need to be replaced with the chain. |
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