Tips to Go Green...

burtthebike

"Mark" <i@getlotsofspamthankstoplus.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:57:07 +0100, "burtthebike"
> <burtthebike@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>But if you're going to shower every day anyway, then showering when you
>>get
>>to work is neutral, so the driving is just extra energy use.
>
> I wonder how many workplaces have a shower? Mine doesn't now. The
> management decided to convert it to a store cupboard :-(

Shoot them in the most painful, slow way imaginable. Idiots like that
shouldn't be allowed to pass on their genes, they're polluting the gene
pool.

Don Whybrow

Danny Colyer wrote:
> On 24/06/2008 08:52, Alan Braggins wrote:
>> See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy_shower
>
> That's what I'd call a "shower", no need for any additional description.
> Why would you want to spend longer in the shower than it takes to get
> clean (unless it's a cool shower on a hot day), or keep the water
> running when it's not actually needed (unless ditto)?

It is fine if you get your hot water from a tank, but if it comes from a
combi boiler each time you turn it on you have to wait for the hot water
to come through. Yes, I know that there will still be hot water in the
pipe from the first use, but right in the middle of rinsing off you will
find the block of cold water will reach the shower.

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Ian Smith

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Mark <i@getlotsofspamthankstoplus.net> wrote:
>
> I wonder how many workplaces have a shower? Mine doesn't now. The
> management decided to convert it to a store cupboard :-(

When we relocated (about 18 months ago) we turned one of the toilets
into a locker room with clothes hanging space, a changing cubicle and
a shower, and made the other one on that floor unisex.

We also turned the wine cellar (though it was actually on the second
floor, so I'm not sure cellar is exactly the right term) into a filing
room.

Unfortunately, I couldn't persuade the executive director running the
project to convert any car parking spaces into bike rack spaces, but
that will come.

regards, Ian SMith
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Adam Lea

"Tosspot" <Frank.Leake@esa.int> wrote in message
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> burtthebike wrote:
>>
>> <karnpatel18@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:094c681e-bfc2-492d-930a-e081333395b4@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>>> Yo, if you really want to know some great ways to go green it takes a
>>> bit of research. (well it did for me)
>>>
>>> Then, I found this article on squidoo: http://www.squidoo.com/agreenlife
>>> . Wish I had found it before...
>>
>> Given that the greenest measure, swapping car for bike, is last on the
>> list, I'm not inclined to give this much credence. But then, it is from
>> the US.
>
> At 19 was "Go to a car wash".

Why is that more efficient than hand washing? I use about two buckets of
water to wash mine. I find it hard to believe that a car wash uses less than
that.

Adam Lea

"Ben C" <spamspam@spam.eggs> wrote in message
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> On 2008-06-23, Martin <martin.dann@virgin.net> wrote:
> [...]
>> Number 2 on the list is not to rinse your dirty plates before putting
>> them in a dishwasher. Wouldn't hand washing be even better?
>
> I think that uses quite a bit more water than a dishwasher.

I find it hard to believe that a dishwasher uses less water than filling the
sink up.

Clive George

"Adam Lea" <asrl07@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Ben C" <spamspam@spam.eggs> wrote in message
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>> On 2008-06-23, Martin <martin.dann@virgin.net> wrote:
>> [...]
>>> Number 2 on the list is not to rinse your dirty plates before putting
>>> them in a dishwasher. Wouldn't hand washing be even better?
>>
>> I think that uses quite a bit more water than a dishwasher.
>
> I find it hard to believe that a dishwasher uses less water than filling
> the sink up.

Well, they do do it with very hot water, and have filters and such so the
problem of your water getting grimy doesn't happen so fast. And they reuse
what they spray out - they don't need much more than what's in the jet
itself.

So potentially they are quite good with water. Probably less good with
chemicals and electricity though.

Of course how green water saving is depends somewhat on where you are. Up
here, with the water coming from a private well a few yards from the house,
and going back into the sewage works then river (or directly into the river)
a few hundred yards away, I don't have much guilt about water use. If I was
relying on aquifers, dams or desalinisation I'd probably try rather harder.

cheers,
clive

Mark T

Adam Lea writtificated

>> At 19 was "Go to a car wash".
>
> Why is that more efficient than hand washing? I use about two buckets
> of water to wash mine. I find it hard to believe that a car wash uses
> less than that.

It's not (which is why he mentioned it!). I presume they're comparing it
to washing a car with a hose.

Mark

On 24 Jun 2008 20:36:17 GMT, Ian Smith <ian@astounding.org.uk> wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Mark <i@getlotsofspamthankstoplus.net> wrote:
>>
>> I wonder how many workplaces have a shower? Mine doesn't now. The
>> management decided to convert it to a store cupboard :-(
>
>When we relocated (about 18 months ago) we turned one of the toilets
>into a locker room with clothes hanging space, a changing cubicle and
>a shower, and made the other one on that floor unisex.
>
>We also turned the wine cellar (though it was actually on the second
>floor, so I'm not sure cellar is exactly the right term) into a filing
>room.
>
>Unfortunately, I couldn't persuade the executive director running the
>project to convert any car parking spaces into bike rack spaces, but
>that will come.

It sounds like you have a much more enlightened management in general.
It took years for them to install anywhere to lock bicycles. When they
finally did it they put wheelbenders in the darkest part of the car
park, well away from any shelter!

I can't even pursuade them to help me get a tax free bicycle!

And BTW: A large proportion of the workforce cycle to work.

OTOH it's a very small company and the building is not large.
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Mark

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:01:58 +0200, Tosspot <Frank.Leake@esa.int>
wrote:

>burtthebike wrote:
>>
>> <karnpatel18@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:094c681e-bfc2-492d-930a-e081333395b4@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>>> Yo, if you really want to know some great ways to go green it takes a
>>> bit of research. (well it did for me)
>>>
>>> Then, I found this article on squidoo: http://www.squidoo.com/agreenlife
>>> . Wish I had found it before...
>>
>> Given that the greenest measure, swapping car for bike, is last on the
>> list, I'm not inclined to give this much credence. But then, it is from
>> the US.
>
>At 19 was "Go to a car wash".

Mine would be "Don't wash the car"!

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Ben C

On 2008-06-25, Mark <i@getlotsofspamthankstoplus.net> wrote:
> On 24 Jun 2008 20:36:17 GMT, Ian Smith <ian@astounding.org.uk> wrote:
[...]
>>Unfortunately, I couldn't persuade the executive director running the
>>project to convert any car parking spaces into bike rack spaces, but
>>that will come.
>
> It sounds like you have a much more enlightened management in general.
> It took years for them to install anywhere to lock bicycles.

In that case you wheel your bike into the office and lean it against
your desk.

Rob Morley

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:02:12 +0100
Mark <i@getlotsofspamthankstoplus.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:01:58 +0200, Tosspot <Frank.Leake@esa.int>
> wrote:

> >At 19 was "Go to a car wash".
>
> Mine would be "Don't wash the car"!
>
You're supposed to wash them?

Andy Morris

Rob Morley wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:02:12 +0100
> Mark <i@getlotsofspamthankstoplus.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:01:58 +0200, Tosspot <Frank.Leake@esa.int>
>> wrote:
>
>>> At 19 was "Go to a car wash".
>> Mine would be "Don't wash the car"!
>>
> You're supposed to wash them?
>
>

No, never, It'll remove the grey sticky stuff that holds it all together.

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