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Cassettes Are Not Eco-Friendly

 
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Old 23-06.-2008, 03:10 PM   #16
Michael Press
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In article
<58e2907c-165c-428f-8f26-5c98f23ec0b1@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
James <wimpyVO2max@gmail.com> wrote:

> I like to bicycle commute. I do it for health and enjoyment first.
> Positive "green" effects on the environment are side benefits but it's
> not a primary motivation. I support the green concept, I'm just not
> hard-core about it. I still own cars.
>
> Cassettes really bug me. Invariably I wear out one, maybe two cogs,
> which leads to cassette replacement. It bugs me to throw away a
> cassette that still has 8 perfectly good cogs on it.
>
> Instead of cassettes, why can't Shimano and Campy come out with 9- and
> 10-speed gearsets that have no cassette. Just a set of 10 cogs and
> spacers. Just stack 'em up on the hub. That way, when your one or two
> favorite cogs wear out, just replace the worn ones and keep the unworn
> ones.


Get a tighter cassette and it will be easier to use more cogwheels.
My utility bike now has a seven speed 12-13-14-15-17-19-21
with 50/39 chain wheels.

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Old 23-06.-2008, 06:16 PM   #17
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Carl Sundquist wrote:
> Assos Beach Towel!!!
> Only $76 + $47 Shipping!!!


Dumbass,
This is an Assos towel. It has the following important properties:
"
The towel is about the most massively useful thing an interstellar
hitchhiker can have. Partly it has great practical value - you can wrap
it around you for warmth as you bound across the cold moons of Jaglan
Beta; you can lie on it on the brilliant marble-sanded beaches of
Santraginus V, inhaling the heady sea vapours; you can sleep under it
beneath the stars which shine so redly on the desert world of Kakrafoon;
use it to sail a mini raft down the slow heavy river Moth; wet it for use
in hand-to- hand-combat; wrap it round your head to ward off noxious
fumes or to avoid the gaze of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal (a
mindboggingly stupid animal, it assumes that if you can't see it, it
can't see you - daft as a bush, but very ravenous); you can wave your
towel in emergencies as a distress signal, and of course dry yourself off
with it if it still seems to be clean enough.

More importantly, a towel has immense psychological value. For some
reason, if a strag (strag: non-hitch hiker) discovers that a hitch hiker
has his towel with him, he will automatically assume that he is also in
possession of a toothbrush, face flannel, soap, tin of biscuits, flask,
compass, map, ball of string, gnat spray, wet weather gear, space suit
etc., etc. Furthermore, the strag will then happily lend the hitch hiker
any of these or a dozen other items that the hitch hiker might
accidentally have "lost". What the strag will think is that any man who
can hitch the length and breadth of the galaxy, rough it, slum it,
struggle against terrible odds, win through, and still knows where his
towel is is clearly a man to be reckoned with."
"

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Old 23-06.-2008, 11:26 PM   #18
phs123@gmail.com
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Carl Sundquist skrev:

> Assos Beach Towel!!!
>
> Only $76 + $47 Shipping!!!
>
> http://www.roseversand.de/output/co...10&detail2=6873


I raise you with a $356.40 Gucci towel:
http://www.bluefly.com/pages/products/detail.jsp;jsessionid=IfvipG4qepceXI6mId4TNUoSHgyyrpf821c2ex4MS0TAKwbk eZnl!-2052167204!app4.l3.bluefly.com!7005!8005?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=208733869 7&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2047121551&N=2047121551+4294967101&Ns=Popularity%7c0%7c%7cProduct%2bCode%7c1&Nu=Product+ID

While this Assos beach towel is overpriced, Assos bibs and winter gear
is top quality. I know several people who says that Assos bibs like
the F.I. 13 or Mille is the best cycling investment they have made.

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Old 23-06.-2008, 11:47 PM   #19
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Donald Munro wrote:
> Carl Sundquist wrote:
>> Assos Beach Towel!!!
>> Only $76 + $47 Shipping!!!

>
> Dumbass,
> This is an Assos towel. It has the following important properties:
> "
> The towel is about the most massively useful thing an interstellar
> hitchhiker can have. Partly it has great practical value - you can wrap
> it around you for warmth as you bound across the cold moons of Jaglan
> Beta; you can lie on it on the brilliant marble-sanded beaches of
> Santraginus V, inhaling the heady sea vapours; you can sleep under it
> beneath the stars which shine so redly on the desert world of Kakrafoon;
> use it to sail a mini raft down the slow heavy river Moth; wet it for use
> in hand-to- hand-combat; wrap it round your head to ward off noxious
> fumes or to avoid the gaze of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal (a
> mindboggingly stupid animal, it assumes that if you can't see it, it
> can't see you - daft as a bush, but very ravenous); you can wave your
> towel in emergencies as a distress signal, and of course dry yourself off
> with it if it still seems to be clean enough.
>
> More importantly, a towel has immense psychological value. For some
> reason, if a strag (strag: non-hitch hiker) discovers that a hitch hiker
> has his towel with him, he will automatically assume that he is also in
> possession of a toothbrush, face flannel, soap, tin of biscuits, flask,
> compass, map, ball of string, gnat spray, wet weather gear, space suit
> etc., etc. Furthermore, the strag will then happily lend the hitch hiker
> any of these or a dozen other items that the hitch hiker might
> accidentally have "lost". What the strag will think is that any man who
> can hitch the length and breadth of the galaxy, rough it, slum it,
> struggle against terrible odds, win through, and still knows where his
> towel is is clearly a man to be reckoned with."
> "
>


And that's just what a lousy K-Mart towel can do. Imagine how much
better the Assos towel must be!
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Old 23-06.-2008, 11:55 PM   #20
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Fred Fredburger wrote:
> And that's just what a lousy K-Mart towel can do. Imagine how much better
> the Assos towel must be!


But do they come in XXXXXL ?

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Old 23-06.-2008, 11:56 PM   #21
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phs123 wrote:
> I know several people who says that Assos bibs like the F.I.
> 13 or Mille is the best cycling investment they have made.


Best or biggest ?


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Old 24-06.-2008, 12:20 AM   #22
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On Jun 22, 4:10*pm, James <wimpyVO2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I like to bicycle commute. I do it for health and enjoyment first.
> Positive "green" effects on the environment are side benefits but it's
> not a primary motivation. I support the green concept, I'm just not
> hard-core about it. I still own cars.
>
> Cassettes really bug me. Invariably I wear out one, maybe two cogs,
> which leads to cassette replacement. It bugs me to throw away a
> cassette that still has 8 perfectly good cogs on it.
>
> Instead of cassettes, why can't Shimano and Campy come out with 9- and
> 10-speed gearsets that have no cassette. Just a set of 10 cogs and
> spacers. Just stack 'em up on the hub. That way, when your one or two
> favorite cogs wear out, just replace the worn ones and keep the unworn
> ones.
>
> Cycling has a great image of being an eco-friendly sport. I think
> coming out with fully replaceable cogsets would help improve the image
> more.


The first think I thought of when I saw this subject line was that
it'd been years since I saw an audio cassette with all the tape
hanging out that someone had thrown out their car window in
frustration. Used to be a fairly common occurrance, once upon a
time...

nate
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Old 24-06.-2008, 12:56 AM   #23
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On 23 Jun., 16:56, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> phs123 wrote:
> > I know several people who says that Assos bibs like the F.I.
> > 13 or Mille is the best cycling investment they have made.

>
> Best or biggest ?


Best.
As I said, Assos makes top quality cycling clothes.


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Old 24-06.-2008, 01:58 AM   #24
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As nobody seems to have mentioned it so far, one word:
Marchisio

A complete 9-speed Junior (ie everyday) cassette is 57 Euro, the
larger sprockets are 5,20 Euro when you need to replace them. Slightly
less than double that for the race spec Aviotek

They also help the recycling effort by allowing you to keep your old
hubs in the event that you switch groupsets :-)

Kinky Cowboy*

*Batteries not included
May contain traces of nuts
Your milage may vary
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Old 24-06.-2008, 03:03 AM   #25
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On Jun 23, 2:16*am, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Carl Sundquist wrote:
> > Assos Beach Towel!!!
> > Only $76 + $47 Shipping!!!

>
> Dumbass,
> This is an Assos towel. It has the following important properties:
> "..."


What about drying the nutsack after shaving and rinsing?

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Old 24-06.-2008, 04:22 AM   #26
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SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
> What about drying the nutsack after shaving and rinsing?


Real men wax.

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Old 24-06.-2008, 05:57 AM   #27
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On Jun 23, 2:22*pm, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
>
> > What about drying the nutsack after shaving and rinsing?

>
> Real men wax.


Hot wax, then fling it around outside on the deck to get rid of the
excess.
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Old 24-06.-2008, 09:42 AM   #28
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In article <485ff812$0$2868$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com>,
Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com> wrote:

> SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
> > What about drying the nutsack after shaving and rinsing?

>
> Real men wax.


Brings new meaning to the phrase "Brazilian cyclist."

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Howard

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The bloody clubs are bloody full
Of bloody girls and bloody guys
With bloody murder in their eyes

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Old 24-06.-2008, 09:54 AM   #29
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On Jun 22, 4:10 pm, James <wimpyVO2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I like to bicycle commute. I do it for health and enjoyment first.
> Positive "green" effects on the environment are side benefits but it's
> not a primary motivation. I support the green concept, I'm just not
> hard-core about it. I still own cars.
>
> Cassettes really bug me. Invariably I wear out one, maybe two cogs,
> which leads to cassette replacement. It bugs me to throw away a
> cassette that still has 8 perfectly good cogs on it.
>
> Instead of cassettes, why can't Shimano and Campy come out with 9- and
> 10-speed gearsets that have no cassette. Just a set of 10 cogs and
> spacers. Just stack 'em up on the hub. That way, when your one or two
> favorite cogs wear out, just replace the worn ones and keep the unworn
> ones.
>
> Cycling has a great image of being an eco-friendly sport. I think
> coming out with fully replaceable cogsets would help improve the image
> more.


Go to ebay. Search "cog*". At least 3 (of us) have been selling the
steel 17-19 cog pair sub-assembly for Dura-Ace 9 speed cassettes, at a
price well under 20% the cost of new. They'll fit other Shimano-
compatible cassettes. of course.
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