Interest in shopping by bike

Peter Clinch

Mark wrote:

> In our case the supermarket is not very far away, but the route is
> very hilly and definitly not bicycle friendly.

Look up "Blackness Road" in Dundee at Multimap or Streetmap and then go
to the OS version with contours. I can get up that with 50 Kg of coal
on a bike, and I'm nobody's athlete and most of my cycling is day to day
routine stuff.

> I can't imagine how we could find time to do two more shops in a week,
> unless it means going at midnight.

I suggest that is a failure of imagination. If your life is really so
busy then you can't squeeze another hour out of it anywhere then you're
doing too much and will die of stress related illnesses sometime soon.
In which case perhaps time to rearrange priorities a bit.

Only 1 person has to be there at a time, of course.

Pete.
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Mark

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:38:41 +0100, Peter Clinch
<p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk> wrote:

>Mark wrote:
>
>> In our case the supermarket is not very far away, but the route is
>> very hilly and definitly not bicycle friendly.
>
>Look up "Blackness Road" in Dundee at Multimap or Streetmap and then go
>to the OS version with contours. I can get up that with 50 Kg of coal
>on a bike, and I'm nobody's athlete and most of my cycling is day to day
>routine stuff.
>
>> I can't imagine how we could find time to do two more shops in a week,
>> unless it means going at midnight.
>
>I suggest that is a failure of imagination. If your life is really so
>busy then you can't squeeze another hour out of it anywhere then you're
>doing too much and will die of stress related illnesses sometime soon.
>In which case perhaps time to rearrange priorities a bit.

Not finding one or two two-hour slots at a convenient time to do extra
shopping trips is hardly a sign of oncoming stress related illnesses!

I'd rather spend some time with my children, thanks.

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David Hansen

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:46:00 +0100 someone who may be David Hansen
<SENDdavidNOhSPAM@spidacom.co.uk> wrote this:-

>I saw a television programme less than a week ago where some experts
>were looking at the shopping bill of a "typical" family who did most
>of their shopping in a typical UK style supermarket. All part of the
>angst about food prices.

Should anyone want to watch the programme I have discovered that it
was "Dispatches: The Truth about Food Prices". The food shopping was
just part of the programme.

It is on More4 this evening from 23:05 to 00:10. Some satellite
viewers will also be able to get it an hour later on More4 + 1.






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Peter Clinch

Mark wrote:

> Not finding one or two two-hour slots at a convenient time to do extra
> shopping trips is hardly a sign of oncoming stress related illnesses!
>
> I'd rather spend some time with my children, thanks.

Well, call me cynical but I frankly doubt it's the case that you're
spending all the available time you could go shopping with your kids as
it is, or that some of that time together is actually coincidental as
you're watching the same TV program and not really much like quality
time. Or quite possibly there are hours in the week where /they/ might
want to be on their own, with each other or their pals but not mum
and/or dad.

If your kids like cycling they could go too. Go via a nice ride
wherever, call in and pick up the shopping as you return. They can
help, or just cut back home.

It's amazing how many people don't have time to do anything else...
until they're forced to, and then they find it's actually quite easy to
accommodate it. And that goes for me too, in case you're feeling I'm
preaching down at you: I "certainly" had no time to volunteer at an
after school club until I did it, shifted things about a bit, and it
turned out there wasn't any trouble.

Again, I assert that there are enough hours in the week to fit in a
second shopping trip, /if/ you decide that's what you'll do.

Pete.
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David Hansen

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:57:00 +0100 someone who may be Mark
<i@getlotsofspamthankstoplus.net> wrote this:-

>>> In our case the supermarket is not very far away, but the route is
>>> very hilly and definitly not bicycle friendly. [snip]
>
>Not finding one or two two-hour slots at a convenient time to do extra
>shopping trips is hardly a sign of oncoming stress related illnesses!

It would take two hours to cycle to and from a supermarket that is
not very faraway but is very hilly and buy some stuff?





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Peter Clinch

David Hansen wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:57:00 +0100 someone who may be Mark
> <i@getlotsofspamthankstoplus.net> wrote this:-
>
>>>> In our case the supermarket is not very far away, but the route is
>>>> very hilly and definitly not bicycle friendly. [snip]
>> Not finding one or two two-hour slots at a convenient time to do extra
>> shopping trips is hardly a sign of oncoming stress related illnesses!
>
> It would take two hours to cycle to and from a supermarket that is
> not very faraway but is very hilly and buy some stuff?

If one has decided in advance that it can't/won't be done, certainly...

Most people (and I'm not an exception) tend to decide the answer and
then retrofit the reasoning in later. This looks like one of those to me.

Pete.
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Mark

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:58:37 +0100, David Hansen
<SENDdavidNOhSPAM@spidacom.co.uk> wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:46:00 +0100 someone who may be David Hansen
><SENDdavidNOhSPAM@spidacom.co.uk> wrote this:-
>
>>I saw a television programme less than a week ago where some experts
>>were looking at the shopping bill of a "typical" family who did most
>>of their shopping in a typical UK style supermarket. All part of the
>>angst about food prices.
>
>Should anyone want to watch the programme I have discovered that it
>was "Dispatches: The Truth about Food Prices". The food shopping was
>just part of the programme.
>
>It is on More4 this evening from 23:05 to 00:10. Some satellite
>viewers will also be able to get it an hour later on More4 + 1.

Unfortunately I can't get More4 or +1.

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Mark

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:05:57 +0100, David Hansen
<SENDdavidNOhSPAM@spidacom.co.uk> wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:57:00 +0100 someone who may be Mark
><i@getlotsofspamthankstoplus.net> wrote this:-
>
>>>> In our case the supermarket is not very far away, but the route is
>>>> very hilly and definitly not bicycle friendly. [snip]
>>
>>Not finding one or two two-hour slots at a convenient time to do extra
>>shopping trips is hardly a sign of oncoming stress related illnesses!
>
>It would take two hours to cycle to and from a supermarket that is
>not very faraway but is very hilly and buy some stuff?

Since it takes two hours shopping by car I doubt it would be much
quicker to do it by bike.

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David Hansen

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:37:37 +0100 someone who may be Mark
<i@getlotsofspamthankstoplus.net> wrote this:-

>>It would take two hours to cycle to and from a supermarket that is
>>not very faraway but is very hilly and buy some stuff?
>
>Since it takes two hours shopping by car

You have that amount of time to waste in your busy life?

How does that two hours break down? How long does it take to dive
there and park? How long to shop? How long to drive back?

If it is not very far away then I can't see the trip taking more
than 20 minutes. That gives one hour and 20 minutes to do shopping.
Seems a long time to me.






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Dylan Smith

On 2008-06-26, Mark <i@getlotsofspamthankstoplus.net> wrote:
> Since it takes two hours shopping by car I doubt it would be much
> quicker to do it by bike.

Given that time is a premium - how much is your time worth? Tesco's for
one do a home delivery service - probably worth the delivery cost given
the length of time you spend shopping.

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Terry

In article <HPU6k.33269$P83.24288@newsfe20.ams2>, Dervin@Dervin.Dervin
(Dervin) wrote:

> How easy is it? I only own a road bike so I could only buy what I
> could comfortably fit in a bag. What kind of bike do you ride to go
> shopping?

Only shopping for one, with a road bike and a rucksack. I shop once a
week and don't buy stuff I won't need in the next week. I buy fresh
vegetables, only a small amount of processed foods, and almost no
processed meals, so there's not a lot of excess packaging. I use a
shopping basket rather than a trolley as that way I don't exceed my
carrying capacity. I use the corner shop for bulky or heavy items like
toilet paper and fruit juices and for perishables like milk and bread.

David Damerell

Quoting Mark <i@getlotsofspamthankstoplus.net>:
>I can't imagine how we could find time to do two more shops in a week,

.... but why would you need to? A bicycle with a full set of luggage and a
trailer (still vastly cheaper than a car) can carry a week's supplies for
any household, large or not.
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