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replacing center pull brakes with direct pull ones ?

 
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Old 22-06.-2008, 08:58 AM   #31
A Muzi
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landotter wrote:
> On Jun 21, 11:29 am, JG <j...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Gentlemen,
>> the change in mechanical advantage of a cantilever brake (It's not
>> necessarily a reduction) between the point where the pads first touch
>> the rim and full pad squishing, cable stretching, tube twisting,
>> caliper bending glory is pretty inconseqential. Actually figuring out
>> what it is, is difficult.
>>

>
> This is a slide rule measuring contest...you in?


I'm in. My K+E is about 265mm long!
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Old 24-06.-2008, 12:59 AM   #32
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Default Re: replacing center pull brakes with direct pull ones ?

A Muzi wrote:
> landotter wrote:
>> On Jun 21, 11:29 am, JG <j...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> Gentlemen,
>>> the change in mechanical advantage of a cantilever brake (It's not
>>> necessarily a reduction) between the point where the pads first touch
>>> the rim and full pad squishing, cable stretching, tube twisting,
>>> caliper bending glory is pretty inconseqential. Actually figuring out
>>> what it is, is difficult.
>>>

>>
>> This is a slide rule measuring contest...you in?

>
> I'm in. My K+E is about 265mm long!


We have an old classroom demonstrator slide rule at the office, it's
about six feet long. Do I win?

Mark J.
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Old 24-06.-2008, 01:07 AM   #33
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On Jun 23, 10:59*am, Mark <mandmljNOS...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote:
> A Muzi wrote:
> > landotter wrote:
> >> On Jun 21, 11:29 am, JG <j...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>> Gentlemen,
> >>> the change in mechanical advantage of a cantilever brake (It's not
> >>> necessarily a reduction) between the point where the pads first touch
> >>> the rim and full pad squishing, cable stretching, tube twisting,
> >>> caliper bending glory is pretty inconseqential. *Actually figuring out
> >>> what it is, is difficult.

>
> >> This is a slide rule measuring contest...you in?

>
> > I'm in. *My K+E is about 265mm long!

>
> We have an old classroom demonstrator slide rule at the office, it's
> about six feet long. *Do I win?


You don't get sand kicked in your face at the beach, that's for sure!
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Old 24-06.-2008, 09:11 AM   #34
A Muzi
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Default Re: replacing center pull brakes with direct pull ones ?

>>> JG <j...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> the change in mechanical advantage of a cantilever brake (It's not
>>>> necessarily a reduction) between the point where the pads first touch
>>>> the rim and full pad squishing, cable stretching, tube twisting,
>>>> caliper bending glory is pretty inconseqential. Actually figuring out
>>>> what it is, is difficult.


>> landotter wrote:
>>> This is a slide rule measuring contest...you in?


> A Muzi wrote:
>> I'm in. My K+E is about 265mm long!


Mark wrote:
> We have an old classroom demonstrator slide rule at the office, it's
> about six feet long. Do I win?


You win.

The nice thing about a slide rule is that it's always there - no one
ever borrows it. No batteries is the bonus!

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Old 24-06.-2008, 06:31 PM   #35
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Default Re: replacing center pull brakes with direct pull ones ?

In article <9838b$485d9542$4431@news.teranews.com>,
A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

> landotter wrote:
> > On Jun 21, 11:29 am, JG <j...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> Gentlemen,
> >> the change in mechanical advantage of a cantilever brake (It's not
> >> necessarily a reduction) between the point where the pads first touch
> >> the rim and full pad squishing, cable stretching, tube twisting,
> >> caliper bending glory is pretty inconseqential. Actually figuring out
> >> what it is, is difficult.
> >>

> >
> > This is a slide rule measuring contest...you in?

>
> I'm in. My K+E is about 265mm long!


This one is nominally 10 inch, and measures
9.8 inch = 248.9 mm.
<http://foraker.research.att.com/~davek/slide/kne/decilon.html>

The text says bad things because the author looks at it as
a collector and he is off the mark anyway because it sells for
little more dollars now than it did new.

Here are close up pictures.
<http://coleccion.reglasdecalculo.com/k+e/681100.html>

The device itself is a treat to use, and it remains the best
tool to list and compare gear ratios.

The advanced scales solve a^x = b for x, given a and b.
Not pictured are the ticks for converting between radians and degrees,
for finding sin(x minutes), and finding sin(x seconds).

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