The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell

Mike Vandeman

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:06:27 -0700 (PDT), chatnoir
<wolfbat359a@mindspring.com> wrote:

>
>
>Mike Vandeman wrote:
>> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:02:25 -0700
>> Subject: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
>>
>> The best recommended comment from the story about Kelowna's illegal
>> mtb courses. The truth. It happens here, too -- not just in the USA
>> and California, etc., like the Mayor likes to remind me. This guy,
>> "Joe Public", could not have stated it better:
>>
>> "I was the live-in caretaker on Knox Mountain for two years. This is a
>> city park and not a mountain bike course and the problem lies
>> completely with the mentality of the mountain bikers. The city parks
>> department went to great lengths to allow and accomodate mountain
>> bikers within the park by discussing needs with mountain bikers and by
>> creating authorised trails for them to use.
>>
>> The problem is that most mountain bikers want to do what they want and
>> go where they want to go. They do not like to follow trails or remain
>> is selected areas, they like to create trails and jumps, and they are
>> destroying the park in the process.
>>
>> I have personally spoken to several "leaders" of local mountain bike
>> clubs and several owners of local mountain bike stores. Up front they
>> claim to be supportive of the park rules, yet when they think that no
>> one is watching, they lead groups of riders down pristine park fields,
>> creating new trails which will continue to erode for decades, or they
>> sneak into the park after hours to ride with headlamps.
>>
>> When approached on unauthorised trails, university educated riders
>> claim to have not seen the signs and curiously, the next time you
>> catch them on the same unauthorised trails, the signs have all been
>> knocked down. These same "leaders" were asked to form work crews to
>> repair the destruction of the city parks, yet not one rider cared
>> enough to show up. The rampant lack of respect for Kelowna's parks by
>> the mountain biking community is the main reason why I did not renew
>> my contract within the park.
>>
>> Over the course of 6 years, the mountain biking community of Kelowna
>> has shown no concern for the park itself, and as such and for the sake
>> of the park, should be banned completely. It will take 20 years to
>> repair the damage of their unauthorised rides.
>> --
>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>>
>> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!
>>
>> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
>
>Alas, the true Biker!:
>
>http://latinolaughter.files.wordpre...007/12/camp.jpg

We know. Mountain biking causes impotence. The brain is the first
thing to go.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

maguahiker@gmail.com

>My apoligies for my incorrect netiquette. Either way...I see his
>response to my post was to try and pan off that photo as himself
>again, even though it isn't his Name!

>That's why you posted it: you thought you could convince people that
>it's me, LIAR.

Actually, if you remember correctly, but knowing your mind's capacity
and your ailments will not allow this to take place...it was posted to
MAKE FUN and done so exactly as reads just because I knew it would
stick with YOU and bother YOU even though it wasn't you. Which it
evidently has worked well. You lie so often you can't keep up with
yourself.

Mike Vandeman

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:30:46 -0700 (PDT), "maguahiker@gmail.com"
<maguahiker@gmail.com> wrote:

>>My apoligies for my incorrect netiquette. Either way...I see his
>>response to my post was to try and pan off that photo as himself
>>again, even though it isn't his Name!
>
>>That's why you posted it: you thought you could convince people that
>>it's me, LIAR.
>
>Actually, if you remember correctly, but knowing your mind's capacity
>and your ailments will not allow this to take place...it was posted to
>MAKE FUN and done so exactly as reads just because I knew it would
>stick with YOU and bother YOU even though it wasn't you. Which it
>evidently has worked well. You lie so often you can't keep up with
>yourself.

You keep changing your story, but you still haven't answered why you
felt it necessary to LIE!

Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED:

"I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
a laugh.

http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"

You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Ist-e Mundus, Furia bundus

"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:9ur564t17c9lp49k77b5iasp9f937esn79@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:30:46 -0700 (PDT), "maguahiker@gmail.com"
> <maguahiker@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>My apoligies for my incorrect netiquette. Either way...I see his
>>>response to my post was to try and pan off that photo as himself
>>>again, even though it isn't his Name!
>>
>>>That's why you posted it: you thought you could convince people that
>>>it's me, LIAR.
>>
>>Actually, if you remember correctly, but knowing your mind's capacity
>>and your ailments will not allow this to take place...it was posted to
>>MAKE FUN and done so exactly as reads just because I knew it would
>>stick with YOU and bother YOU even though it wasn't you. Which it
>>evidently has worked well. You lie so often you can't keep up with
>>yourself.
>
> You keep changing your story, but you still haven't answered why you
> felt it necessary to LIE!
>
> Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED:
>
> "I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
> trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
> a laugh.
>
> http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"


Is your name Mike Vanderman or is it Mike Vandeman? I'm not saying you
aren't crazy in any case, but you seem to miss the obvious. For instance,
the spelling of your own name would appear to elude you. Yet another
discrepancy that calls into question anything you have to say. You are a
very special man Mr Vandepoopy.

Did you catch that one? Perhaps YOU should learn to read. Try this one: Eat
shit and die Mike Vanderwanker.

> You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.
> --
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
> fond of!
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Mike Vandeman

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:47:44 -0600, "Ist-e Mundus, Furia bundus"
<bob@bob.com> wrote:

>
>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>news:9ur564t17c9lp49k77b5iasp9f937esn79@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:30:46 -0700 (PDT), "maguahiker@gmail.com"
>> <maguahiker@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>My apoligies for my incorrect netiquette. Either way...I see his
>>>>response to my post was to try and pan off that photo as himself
>>>>again, even though it isn't his Name!
>>>
>>>>That's why you posted it: you thought you could convince people that
>>>>it's me, LIAR.
>>>
>>>Actually, if you remember correctly, but knowing your mind's capacity
>>>and your ailments will not allow this to take place...it was posted to
>>>MAKE FUN and done so exactly as reads just because I knew it would
>>>stick with YOU and bother YOU even though it wasn't you. Which it
>>>evidently has worked well. You lie so often you can't keep up with
>>>yourself.
>>
>> You keep changing your story, but you still haven't answered why you
>> felt it necessary to LIE!
>>
>> Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED:
>>
>> "I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
>> trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
>> a laugh.
>>
>> http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"
>
>
>Is your name Mike Vanderman or is it Mike Vandeman? I'm not saying you
>aren't crazy in any case, but you seem to miss the obvious. For instance,
>the spelling of your own name would appear to elude you. Yet another
>discrepancy that calls into question anything you have to say. You are a
>very special man Mr Vandepoopy.
>
>Did you catch that one? Perhaps YOU should learn to read. Try this one: Eat
>shit and die Mike Vanderwanker.

Thanks for demonstrating exactly what mountain bikers are like! Is
there any LOWER form of human life on the planet?!
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande