Margaret Hamilton and Cycling

Just zis Guy, you know?

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:55:45 +0100, Nick <Nick.Spam@yahoo.co.uk>
said in <6c4fj1F3ev9ssU1@mid.individual.net>:

>My teams generally have a lot more servers than desktops but I
>guess this probably isn't the standard model.

Normal for dev shops. 2.5:1 OS instances to humans here.

Guy
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Clive George

"Nick" <Nick.Spam@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Most of the companies I have worked for do it for the desktops as well as
> servers. They push a standard build together with a mechanism which will
> automatically install any apps you are configured for. This makes it
> easier to swap PC's. I think it works for most users, being a developer
> obviously I tend to configure my box a lot more than standard but even for
> me it works quite well.

That's what altiris is about. It's just one way of doing it.

cheers,
clive

wafflycat

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:03:44 +0100, Nick <Nick.Spam@yahoo.co.uk>
> said in <6c3ufgF3dlcnuU2@mid.individual.net>:
>
>>> Coincidence only. I'm building some VMs and was waiting for the
>>> endless Windows patching to complete.
>
>>Why not just build one and then copy it?
>
> Close: I built four templates (different flavours of OS in 32 and 64
> bit), configured them to conform to corporate standards and then
> cloned from them to the new VMs, which then had to be configured and
> extra software installed to do the job for which they are required.
>
> This will be easier when I have finished the project to deploy
> Altiris around EMEA.
>
> You do know that my job is running SANs and virtual infrastructure
> for the EMEA region for a Fortune 500 company, yes?
>
> Guy

Yebbut, will it be Shimano, Campag or SRAM?

Nick

Clive George wrote:
> "Nick" <Nick.Spam@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:6c4fj1F3ev9ssU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>> Most of the companies I have worked for do it for the desktops as well
>> as servers. They push a standard build together with a mechanism which
>> will automatically install any apps you are configured for. This makes
>> it easier to swap PC's. I think it works for most users, being a
>> developer obviously I tend to configure my box a lot more than
>> standard but even for me it works quite well.
>
> That's what altiris is about. It's just one way of doing it.
>
> cheers,
> clive

Ah, in that case I understand the giggle. I find releasing one App that
I know intimately hard enough, I wouldn't want to be responsible for
every release.

Daniel Barlow

"Clive George" <clive@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> writes:

> How long have you been working in IT that you still don't know the
> words "this will be easier" are a death sentence?

Only when said to management.

It's perfectly possible to make most IT jobs easier as long as you
don't let on that you've done it.


-dan

Daniel Barlow

"wafflycat" <w*a*ff£y£cat*@£btco*nn£ect.com> writes:

> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
>> You do know that my job is running SANs and virtual infrastructure
>> for the EMEA region for a Fortune 500 company, yes?
>
> Yebbut, will it be Shimano, Campag or SRAM?

emacs


-dan

wafflycat

"Daniel Barlow" <dan@telent.net> wrote in message
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> "wafflycat" <w*a*ff£y£cat*@£btco*nn£ect.com> writes:
>
>> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
>>> You do know that my job is running SANs and virtual infrastructure
>>> for the EMEA region for a Fortune 500 company, yes?
>>
>> Yebbut, will it be Shimano, Campag or SRAM?
>
> emacs
>
>
Ahh... I didn't know the inhabitants of Endor made bike components. I learn
something new everyday.

Rob Morley

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:21:06 +0100
Daniel Barlow <dan@telent.net> wrote:

> "wafflycat" <w*a*ff£y£cat*@£btco*nn£ect.com> writes:
>
> > "Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
> >> You do know that my job is running SANs and virtual infrastructure
> >> for the EMEA region for a Fortune 500 company, yes?
> >
> > Yebbut, will it be Shimano, Campag or SRAM?
>
> emacs
>
vi

:-)

Just zis Guy, you know?

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:56:28 +0100, "Clive George"
<clive@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> said in
<MpWdnYhe8LEsi8DVnZ2dnUVZ8uOdnZ2d@posted.plusnet>:

>Depends on which supplier you go with really. Netapps do both - and indeed
>some people recommend you do NFS/CIFS NAS rather than iSCSI/FC SAN. But it
>all comes out of the same box, and with the same wires to a large extent.
>(and yes, I do know where that's not true).

Sure, but the CLARiiON seems to us to offer more granularity of
control over LUN and RAID group sizing and configuration, plus EMC
owns VMware and Dell sells EMC and VMware so we can get everything
from one shop, including support.

And I'm not going to start using iSCSI or any other ethernet based
transport for VMs any time soon, the IO on our present systems is
pretty high already and I'm not convinced that an ethernet-based
fabric will handle the traffic, although messrs. EqualLogic are very
insistent that it can.

There is no one right answer.

Guy
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Roger Merriman

Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:21:06 +0100
> Daniel Barlow <dan@telent.net> wrote:
>
> > "wafflycat" <w*a*ff£y£cat*@£btco*nn£ect.com> writes:
> >
> > > "Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
> > >> You do know that my job is running SANs and virtual infrastructure
> > >> for the EMEA region for a Fortune 500 company, yes?
> > >
> > > Yebbut, will it be Shimano, Campag or SRAM?
> >
> > emacs
> >
> vi
>
> :-)

now you've done it helmets are nothing compared to the text editers.

vi really? or vim?

roger
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Ian Smith

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Roger Merriman <NEWS@wodger.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:21:06 +0100
> > Daniel Barlow <dan@telent.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > emacs
> > >
> > vi
>
> vi really? or vim?

Well, personally the only time I use vi it's really busybox.
But normally I'd emacs.

regards, Ian SMith
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