Margaret Hamilton and Cycling

Roger Thorpe

Could someone explain this Yehuda Moon strip to me?
http://yehudamoon.com/index.php?date=2008-06-14
Yehuda and Joe are debating on who did the most damage to cycling and
come up with Margaret Hamilton but "If she had been riding on the drops
everyone would be cycling now"
I asked Wikipedia, which told me that she played the Wicked Witch of the
West in the Wizard of Oz, but still don't get it.

Roger Thorpe

Just zis Guy, you know?

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:20:00 +0100, Roger Thorpe
<myinitial.mysrname@warwick.ac.uk> said in
<g3bg5d$kgv$1@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk>:

>Could someone explain this Yehuda Moon strip to me?
>http://yehudamoon.com/index.php?date=2008-06-14
>Yehuda and Joe are debating on who did the most damage to cycling and
>come up with Margaret Hamilton but "If she had been riding on the drops
>everyone would be cycling now"

http://filmfanatic.org/reviews/wp-c...07/06/Gulch.JPG

Guy
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Roger Thorpe

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:20:00 +0100, Roger Thorpe
> <myinitial.mysrname@warwick.ac.uk> said in
> <g3bg5d$kgv$1@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk>:
>
>
>>Could someone explain this Yehuda Moon strip to me?
>>http://yehudamoon.com/index.php?date=2008-06-14
>>Yehuda and Joe are debating on who did the most damage to cycling and
>>come up with Margaret Hamilton but "If she had been riding on the drops
>>everyone would be cycling now"
>
>
> http://filmfanatic.org/reviews/wp-c...07/06/Gulch.JPG
>
> Guy

blimey, that took you three minutes......
Thanks
Roger Thorpe

JNugent

Roger Thorpe wrote:
> Could someone explain this Yehuda Moon strip to me?
> http://yehudamoon.com/index.php?date=2008-06-14
> Yehuda and Joe are debating on who did the most damage to cycling and
> come up with Margaret Hamilton but "If she had been riding on the drops
> everyone would be cycling now"
> I asked Wikipedia, which told me that she played the Wicked Witch of the
> West in the Wizard of Oz, but still don't get it.
>
> Roger Thorpe

Doesn't that chacter (in her alter ego as the old woman who complains
about Toto) ride a bike - and isn't she seen riding it in mid-air in the
cyclone?

Just zis Guy, you know?

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:25:32 +0100, Roger Thorpe
<myinitial.mysrname@warwick.ac.uk> said in
<g3bgfo$kgv$2@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk>:

>blimey, that took you three minutes......

Coincidence only. I'm building some VMs and was waiting for the
endless Windows patching to complete.

Guy
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Mark T

Just zis Guy, you know? writtificated

>>Could someone explain this Yehuda Moon strip to me?
>>http://yehudamoon.com/index.php?date=2008-06-14
>>Yehuda and Joe are debating on who did the most damage to cycling and
>>come up with Margaret Hamilton but "If she had been riding on the drops
>>everyone would be cycling now"
>
> http://filmfanatic.org/reviews/wp-c...07/06/Gulch.JPG

"If she had been riding on the drops everyone would be cycling now"

I still don't get it :/ Was she famed for having a great bum? <feels
stupid>

Nick

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:25:32 +0100, Roger Thorpe
> <myinitial.mysrname@warwick.ac.uk> said in
> <g3bgfo$kgv$2@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk>:
>
>> blimey, that took you three minutes......
>
> Coincidence only. I'm building some VMs and was waiting for the
> endless Windows patching to complete.
>

Why not just build one and then copy it?

Just zis Guy, you know?

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:03:44 +0100, Nick <Nick.Spam@yahoo.co.uk>
said in <6c3ufgF3dlcnuU2@mid.individual.net>:

>> Coincidence only. I'm building some VMs and was waiting for the
>> endless Windows patching to complete.

>Why not just build one and then copy it?

Close: I built four templates (different flavours of OS in 32 and 64
bit), configured them to conform to corporate standards and then
cloned from them to the new VMs, which then had to be configured and
extra software installed to do the job for which they are required.

This will be easier when I have finished the project to deploy
Altiris around EMEA.

You do know that my job is running SANs and virtual infrastructure
for the EMEA region for a Fortune 500 company, yes?

Guy
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Clive George

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
news:qfrp54tdd2vq5kgmq6p4d5d6775e1h0cu0@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:03:44 +0100, Nick <Nick.Spam@yahoo.co.uk>
> said in <6c3ufgF3dlcnuU2@mid.individual.net>:
>
>>> Coincidence only. I'm building some VMs and was waiting for the
>>> endless Windows patching to complete.
>
>>Why not just build one and then copy it?
>
> Close: I built four templates (different flavours of OS in 32 and 64
> bit), configured them to conform to corporate standards and then
> cloned from them to the new VMs, which then had to be configured and
> extra software installed to do the job for which they are required.
>
> This will be easier when I have finished the project to deploy
> Altiris around EMEA.

Giggle :-)

How long have you been working in IT that you still don't know the words
"this will be easier" are a death sentence?

cheers,
clive

Nick

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:03:44 +0100, Nick <Nick.Spam@yahoo.co.uk>
> said in <6c3ufgF3dlcnuU2@mid.individual.net>:
>
>>> Coincidence only. I'm building some VMs and was waiting for the
>>> endless Windows patching to complete.
>
>> Why not just build one and then copy it?
>
> Close: I built four templates (different flavours of OS in 32 and 64
> bit), configured them to conform to corporate standards and then
> cloned from them to the new VMs, which then had to be configured and
> extra software installed to do the job for which they are required.
>
> This will be easier when I have finished the project to deploy
> Altiris around EMEA.
>
> You do know that my job is running SANs and virtual infrastructure
> for the EMEA region for a Fortune 500 company, yes?
>

No I didn't know and anyway I'm a programmer not a system guy.

I'm afraid you lost me on the terms EMEA? Altiris? SANs.

I though the bigger companies invested millions+ in customising
corporate builds.

Clive George

"Nick" <Nick.Spam@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:6c4edhF3epgqaU1@mid.individual.net...
> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:03:44 +0100, Nick <Nick.Spam@yahoo.co.uk>
>> said in <6c3ufgF3dlcnuU2@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>>> Coincidence only. I'm building some VMs and was waiting for the
>>>> endless Windows patching to complete.
>>
>>> Why not just build one and then copy it?
>>
>> Close: I built four templates (different flavours of OS in 32 and 64
>> bit), configured them to conform to corporate standards and then
>> cloned from them to the new VMs, which then had to be configured and
>> extra software installed to do the job for which they are required.
>>
>> This will be easier when I have finished the project to deploy
>> Altiris around EMEA.
>>
>> You do know that my job is running SANs and virtual infrastructure
>> for the EMEA region for a Fortune 500 company, yes?
>>
>
> No I didn't know and anyway I'm a programmer not a system guy.
>
> I'm afraid you lost me on the terms EMEA? Altiris? SANs.

Europe Middle East Africa.
Altiris is a among other things a product for deploying software, which is
required because windows is so shit in many ways.
SAN = storage area network. Not to be confused with NAS = network attached
storage, even though many devices now do both so the distinction is rather
blurred. I find thinking of it as "storage separate from your computer" is
simple enough. I do wonder if Guy is really using SAN or actually NAS (or
indeed if he cares about the difference :-) )

> I though the bigger companies invested millions+ in customising corporate
> builds.

VM and SAN implies servers, which implies relatively low volume. No point in
getting MS to do a custom corporate build. Or you could think of it as Guy
being the man they're getting to do these custom corporate builds.

(TBH there seems little point in doing it for desktops too - there's plenty
which can be easily customised, and it doesn't require spending millions).

</corporate IT nerd>

cheers,
clive

Nick

Clive George wrote:
> "Nick" <Nick.Spam@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:6c4edhF3epgqaU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:03:44 +0100, Nick <Nick.Spam@yahoo.co.uk>
>>> said in <6c3ufgF3dlcnuU2@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>>> Coincidence only. I'm building some VMs and was waiting for the
>>>>> endless Windows patching to complete.
>>>
>>>> Why not just build one and then copy it?
>>>
>>> Close: I built four templates (different flavours of OS in 32 and 64
>>> bit), configured them to conform to corporate standards and then
>>> cloned from them to the new VMs, which then had to be configured and
>>> extra software installed to do the job for which they are required.
>>>
>>> This will be easier when I have finished the project to deploy
>>> Altiris around EMEA.
>>>
>>> You do know that my job is running SANs and virtual infrastructure
>>> for the EMEA region for a Fortune 500 company, yes?
>>>
>>
>> No I didn't know and anyway I'm a programmer not a system guy.
>>
>> I'm afraid you lost me on the terms EMEA? Altiris? SANs.
>
> Europe Middle East Africa.
> Altiris is a among other things a product for deploying software, which
> is required because windows is so shit in many ways.
> SAN = storage area network. Not to be confused with NAS = network
> attached storage, even though many devices now do both so the
> distinction is rather blurred. I find thinking of it as "storage
> separate from your computer" is simple enough. I do wonder if Guy is
> really using SAN or actually NAS (or indeed if he cares about the
> difference :-) )
>
>> I though the bigger companies invested millions+ in customising
>> corporate builds.
>
> VM and SAN implies servers, which implies relatively low volume. No
> point in getting MS to do a custom corporate build. Or you could think
> of it as Guy being the man they're getting to do these custom corporate
> builds.
>

No I meant the companies themselves normally have pretty sizeable teams
doing it. My teams generally have a lot more servers than desktops but I
guess this probably isn't the standard model.

> (TBH there seems little point in doing it for desktops too - there's
> plenty which can be easily customised, and it doesn't require spending
> millions).
>

Most of the companies I have worked for do it for the desktops as well
as servers. They push a standard build together with a mechanism which
will automatically install any apps you are configured for. This makes
it easier to swap PC's. I think it works for most users, being a
developer obviously I tend to configure my box a lot more than standard
but even for me it works quite well.

> </corporate IT nerd>
>
> cheers,
> clive

Mark McNeill

Response to Clive George
> SAN = storage area network. Not to be confused with NAS = network attached
> storage, even though many devices now do both so the distinction is rather
> blurred.


Funnily enough, this weekend I are been bunging big expensive HDs in my
old Linux box to make a RAID array: I'm using FreeNAS, which so far is
being suspiciously straightforward. [It also makes for four different
OSes in the house, five if you count Windows Vistula as an OS. ;-)]


I had to look up EMEA, and found myself wishing Guy was providing NAS
for the European Music Educators Association. So does he, I dare say.



--
Mark, UK
"Whenever morality is based on theology, whenever right is made
dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things
can be justified and established."

Just zis Guy, you know?

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:12:37 +0100, "Clive George"
<clive@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> said in
<BYmdnTQJ_Y8DY8HVnZ2dnUVZ8u6dnZ2d@posted.plusnet>:

>How long have you been working in IT that you still don't know the words
>"this will be easier" are a death sentence?

Ah, but it *will* be easier when *I* do it, because when I do stuff
I make sure it makes it easier... for me, if nobody else...

Guy
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