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Brooks B17

 
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Old 21-06.-2008, 01:55 AM   #16
Booker Bense
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In article <cb6577aa-262f-4e12-ba4f-a8c7ec56f60a@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
Woland99 <woland99@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks - I found can of Proofide in LBS and put couple layers
>on the bottom part and a layer on top. That stuff is dense and
>has high viscosity - takes a bit of effort to spread but seems
>to form a hard layer on top of the leather. I did not figure out
>how to proofide all the nooks - there are some areas underneath
>the saddle that are hard to reach with your fingers.


Proofide and Snow Seal are mostly bee's wax. Get them warm and
they are much easier to work with.

_ Booker C. Bense

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Old 21-06.-2008, 03:48 AM   #17
* * Chas
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"Woland99" <woland99@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cb6577aa-262f-4e12-ba4f-a8c7ec56f60a@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 19, 10:46 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <f476e6d1-7988-4b7c-a307-0aa020190...@z16g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > Woland99 <wolan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 19, 8:22 am, still just me <wheeledBobNOS...@yahoo.com>

wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:24:00 -0700 (PDT), Woland99

> >
> > > > <wolan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >no sweat - it
> > > > >is dry in Austin and if it is raining it usually pours buckets so
> > > > >riding is not possible. But just in case I may get a cover or

just
> > > > >use plastic bag.

> >
> > > > My Brooks got very wet many times over many years and is still

just
> > > > fine. Some of that may be due to a healthy dose of neatsfoot oil

(the
> > > > application of which horrifies purists and the proofhide salesman

at
> > > > Brooks, but was just fine with me and with the late Sheldon

Bhttp://www.sheldonbrown.com/leather.html).
> >
> > > > If you want to reduce the slipperiness you can use some very fine
> > > > sandpaper (#400 to start, work up or down as desired) to remove

the
> > > > factory gloss. That also helps with the absorption of any

treatment
> > > > you do use. Again, it horrifies the purists, but it's OK to live

on
> > > > the edge.

> >
> > > Slippery is actually OK - especially after putting a bit of Proofide
> > > on top - it got better. Not sure about sanding - I will see if I
> > > can sand it with my butt. As old cycling wisdom goes - you ain't
> > > worthy calling yerself a cyclist unless you sanded your Brooks B17
> > > down to paper-like thickness. Or something along that line.
> > > Looking at Proofide can: Tallow, Cod oil, Vegetable oil, Paraffin
> > > wax, Beeswax, Citronella oil. Absolutely no artificial sweetener

here.
> >
> > Do not sand it. Wax type treatments such as Proofide and Sno-Seal
> > are best. Even real neats foot oil is contraindicated.
> >
> > Here is the Sno-Seal link.
> >
> > <http://www.atsko.com/products/waterproofing/sno-seal.html>
> >
> > I use Sno-Seal on boots, and like it. I quote from the
> > site because I find it persuasive.
> >
> > "Sno-Seal Original Beeswax Waterproofing protects leather
> > from rain, sun, snow, and salt. The beeswax formula dries
> > to a solid wax that "stays put" in the surface of the
> > leather so it lasts longer.
> >
> > "Our competitors' greases, oil, and animal products are
> > able to migrate through the leather till they clog all
> > the pores. These waterproofing products fill the natural
> > spaces that are supposed to absorb perspiration and
> > insulate.
> >
> > "In addition, animal fats weaken and rot leather. The
> > tannery worked hard to remove the fats and preserve the
> > leather, so it's hard to imagine why you'd put it back
> > on."
> >
> > --
> > Michael Press

>
> Thanks - I found can of Proofide in LBS and put couple layers
> on the bottom part and a layer on top. That stuff is dense and
> has high viscosity - takes a bit of effort to spread but seems
> to form a hard layer on top of the leather. I did not figure out
> how to proofide all the nooks - there are some areas underneath
> the saddle that are hard to reach with your fingers.


I use an old tooth brush to get the Proofide into the hard to reach
places. I also hit it with lightly with hot air from a hair dryer to get
the stuff to soak into the leather better.

Chas.


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Old 23-06.-2008, 06:34 AM   #18
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!Jones wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:15:08 -0700 (PDT), in rec.bicycles.tech
> Woland99 <woland99@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I went out and bought one -
>> B17 Special

>
> Personally, I ride a 24-yaer-old Ideal, but it's a similar saddle.
> People either like 'em a lot or they dislike 'em... few are neutral.
>
> Jones
>


My 28 year old Brooks saddle on one bike is starting to show its
age. This bike has been ridden every year of that time at least 1000
- 3000 miles a year. Needless to say, I got my money's worth. You are
right though about their relative popularity.....

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