Do you carry a gun while out on a ride?

Amy Blankenship

"Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
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On Jun 19, 5:25 pm, KingOfTheApes <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Originally Posted by chipcom
> "Hint: you can't...what needs to be controlled are humans and their
> behavior...not the tools they use."
>
> I think the wild monkeys (those that display primitive behavior, like
> aggression) should be put in a cage.
>
> But since they look like humans, they figure the chances of being
> caught are slim, particularly since nobody cares about nothing any
> more. Some are being caught, but mainly because the police is looking
> to i$$ue as many tickets as po$$ible.
>
> If undercover policemen were to ride the roads, then the wild monkeys
> would think twice before pushing around people on bikes. I wonder why
> a society that puts undercover hookers out there, doesn't care that
> much about the cyclists. Yeah, we know prostitution is a sin, but so
> is bullying cyclists...
>
> This is leading into religious morality, is it not?

9 of the 16 posts in the thread are from you --including multiple
times where you reply to yourself. This, after you swore "I'm not
going to be posting here for a while --unless requested". Well, guess
what, no one is requesting you to post. You're just embarrassing
yourself by posting like this. You're just posting to hear yourself
talk. Go get a life. Your gig working for "Big Oil" is up. Your
cover is blown.

If you're worried that people hate bikers. Guess what. It's because
of people like you. You're a disgrace.

-------------------------------------------

Could we adopt a policy of not responding to this guy? I have him
comfortably filtered out, but when people respond I have to see what they
are responding to.

Thanks!

KingOfTheApes

On Jun 20, 8:38*am, "Amy Blankenship"
<Amy_nos...@magnoliamultimedia.com> wrote:
> "Pat" <gro...@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
>
> news:5a52e126-a1f7-4cd6-a1ee-5b1d501c7c8f@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 19, 5:25 pm, KingOfTheApes <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Originally Posted by chipcom
> > "Hint: you can't...what needs to be controlled are humans and their
> > behavior...not the tools they use."
>
> > I think the wild monkeys (those that display primitive behavior, like
> > aggression) should be put in a cage.
>
> > But since they look like humans, they figure the chances of being
> > caught are slim, particularly since nobody cares about nothing any
> > more. Some are being caught, but mainly because the police is looking
> > to i$$ue as many tickets as po$$ible.
>
> > If undercover policemen were to ride the roads, then the wild monkeys
> > would think twice before pushing around people on bikes. I wonder why
> > a society that puts undercover hookers out there, doesn't care that
> > much about the cyclists. Yeah, we know prostitution is a sin, but so
> > is bullying cyclists...
>
> > This is leading into religious morality, is it not?
>
> 9 of the 16 posts in the thread are from you --including multiple
> times where you reply to yourself. *This, after you swore "I'm not
> going to be posting here for a while --unless requested". *Well, guess
> what, no one is requesting you to post. *You're just embarrassing
> yourself by posting like this. *You're just posting to hear yourself
> talk. *Go get a life. *Your gig working for "Big Oil" is up. *Your
> cover is blown.
>
> If you're worried that people hate bikers. *Guess what. *It's because
> of people like you. *You're a disgrace.
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
> Could we adopt a policy of not responding to this guy? *I have him
> comfortably filtered out, but when people respond I have to see what they
> are responding to.
>
> Thanks!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Maybe there's someone out there smart enough to read posts like
this...

(I think it was Lindon Johnson that called the "silent majority")

Originally Posted by Rex G
"Just to be clear, I would love to ride a bike, out of uniform,
allowing my self to be bullied, and using a radio to relay the
information to an officer in a marked cruiser around the next bend.
But, our stats would not be nearly as impressive as if I stood by the
road, in uniform or not, and lasered speeders, relaying the
information to guys around the bend. In reality, one officer with a
laser can keep half a dozen guys in marked cruisers busy, cutting
paper. (Local PD jargon for writing tickets.) Of course, slowing the
speeders makes things safer for cyclists, and police presence in an
area makes road rage/bullying less likely."

I'm sure you'd be happy to find help your fellow cyclists, but the
public opinion isn't there to back you up, and that takes leadership.

I think it would take an important personality (a president, better)
to change this view, and fund the effort accordingly since you can't
generate that much money. Perhaps the cities put pressure on you to go
"where the money is." Some say there's a quota. Meanwhile we will try
to survive out there, or simply stay away from it all until better
times arrive.

The last day I was out on the road (I still do but only for short
errands), I had a policeman wave me off the road before I had an
incident which could have proven fatal. To me, we are insignificant
out there, and some people feel they can act against us. A speed limit
helps, but not enough. Where I live dozens of speeding tickets are
issued everyday, and still cars go zooming by. Worse of all, they do
so on any lane, particularly the right hand lane, which puts us at
greater risk.

How smart it would be to bring "lane discipline" to our roads. Limit
the speed limit on the right, but be more lenient about speeds on the
left. And put speed cameras to help in the enforcement. If we ever had
politicians committed to friendlier roads. I doubt it. I see a self-
serving bunch.

Well, perhaps some day we can bring experts from Sweden or
something...

"In 2005 Sweden recorded its lowest number of fatalities since the
1940s, while the US recorded its highest number in 15 years. The
Swedish total is 66% below the highest number recorded in Sweden (in
1966), while the US total is only 20% below the highest number
recorded in the US (in 1972). If the US total had dropped from its
high by the same percent as the Swedish total did, in 2005 the US
would have suffered 18,293 traffic deaths, 25,150 fewer than the
actual total of 43,443."

http://www.scienceservingsociety.com/p/X/01.htm

Pat

On Jun 20, 8:38*am, "Amy Blankenship"
<Amy_nos...@magnoliamultimedia.com> wrote:
> "Pat" <gro...@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
>
> news:5a52e126-a1f7-4cd6-a1ee-5b1d501c7c8f@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 19, 5:25 pm, KingOfTheApes <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Originally Posted by chipcom
> > "Hint: you can't...what needs to be controlled are humans and their
> > behavior...not the tools they use."
>
> > I think the wild monkeys (those that display primitive behavior, like
> > aggression) should be put in a cage.
>
> > But since they look like humans, they figure the chances of being
> > caught are slim, particularly since nobody cares about nothing any
> > more. Some are being caught, but mainly because the police is looking
> > to i$$ue as many tickets as po$$ible.
>
> > If undercover policemen were to ride the roads, then the wild monkeys
> > would think twice before pushing around people on bikes. I wonder why
> > a society that puts undercover hookers out there, doesn't care that
> > much about the cyclists. Yeah, we know prostitution is a sin, but so
> > is bullying cyclists...
>
> > This is leading into religious morality, is it not?
>
> 9 of the 16 posts in the thread are from you --including multiple
> times where you reply to yourself. *This, after you swore "I'm not
> going to be posting here for a while --unless requested". *Well, guess
> what, no one is requesting you to post. *You're just embarrassing
> yourself by posting like this. *You're just posting to hear yourself
> talk. *Go get a life. *Your gig working for "Big Oil" is up. *Your
> cover is blown.
>
> If you're worried that people hate bikers. *Guess what. *It's because
> of people like you. *You're a disgrace.
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
> Could we adopt a policy of not responding to this guy? *I have him
> comfortably filtered out, but when people respond I have to see what they
> are responding to.
>
> Thanks!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hey, this is my first response to the guy since ... I don't know
when. My other post to him wasn't really a "response". But yes, in
general I ignore him. Unfortunately, that means pretty much ignoring
the whole NG which he pretty much killed.

Rob Morley

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:38:59 -0500
"Amy Blankenship" <Amy_nospam@magnoliamultimedia.com> wrote:

> Could we adopt a policy of not responding to this guy? I have him
> comfortably filtered out, but when people respond I have to see what
> they are responding to.

So get a newsreader that can filter on message content as well as
headers. :-)

KingOfTheApes

On Jun 20, 9:18*am, Pat <gro...@artisticphotography.us> wrote:
> On Jun 20, 8:38*am, "Amy Blankenship"
>
>
>
>
>
> <Amy_nos...@magnoliamultimedia.com> wrote:
> > "Pat" <gro...@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
>
> >news:5a52e126-a1f7-4cd6-a1ee-5b1d501c7c8f@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 19, 5:25 pm, KingOfTheApes <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Originally Posted by chipcom
> > > "Hint: you can't...what needs to be controlled are humans and their
> > > behavior...not the tools they use."
>
> > > I think the wild monkeys (those that display primitive behavior, like
> > > aggression) should be put in a cage.
>
> > > But since they look like humans, they figure the chances of being
> > > caught are slim, particularly since nobody cares about nothing any
> > > more. Some are being caught, but mainly because the police is looking
> > > to i$$ue as many tickets as po$$ible.
>
> > > If undercover policemen were to ride the roads, then the wild monkeys
> > > would think twice before pushing around people on bikes. I wonder why
> > > a society that puts undercover hookers out there, doesn't care that
> > > much about the cyclists. Yeah, we know prostitution is a sin, but so
> > > is bullying cyclists...
>
> > > This is leading into religious morality, is it not?
>
> > 9 of the 16 posts in the thread are from you --including multiple
> > times where you reply to yourself. *This, after you swore "I'm not
> > going to be posting here for a while --unless requested". *Well, guess
> > what, no one is requesting you to post. *You're just embarrassing
> > yourself by posting like this. *You're just posting to hear yourself
> > talk. *Go get a life. *Your gig working for "Big Oil" is up. *Your
> > cover is blown.
>
> > If you're worried that people hate bikers. *Guess what. *It's because
> > of people like you. *You're a disgrace.
>
> > -------------------------------------------
>
> > Could we adopt a policy of not responding to this guy? *I have him
> > comfortably filtered out, but when people respond I have to see what they
> > are responding to.
>
> > Thanks!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Hey, this is my first response to the guy since ... I don't know
> when. *My other post to him wasn't really a "response". *But yes, in
> general I ignore him. *Unfortunately, that means pretty much ignoring
> the whole NG which he pretty much killed.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Don't put it that bad. This group is alive and kicking, particularly
after my candidacy...

(this is probably my last post in 4 years)

Well, just assuming...

Suppose I ran for president, and I was serious about cycling, what
would I have to do to deserve your vote?

This article cites some of the things that need to be done to promote
biking...

(notice they are for the revolution too)

The Revolution Will Not Be Motorized
Is Austin finally giving bicyclists a little respect?

'Elkinton has observed a marked rise in transportation-bicycling
interest this year, motivated most strongly, he says, "by the
increasing price of gas and goods."'

1- Tax gasoline to promote bike facilities.

'One question planners already know the answer to is why people avoid
transportation cycling: safety.'

2- Implement bike paths and bike lanes or where necessary implement
slow lanes enforced by speed cameras.

"promote the heck out of it."

3- Promotion, promotion, promotion. Without it, the people won't come
out their cages.

http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrob...oid=oid:621776

Oh, thank you very much for your vote, and see you in four years.

Steve C

Rob Morley wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:38:59 -0500
> "Amy Blankenship" <Amy_nospam@magnoliamultimedia.com> wrote:
>
>> Could we adopt a policy of not responding to this guy? I have him
>> comfortably filtered out, but when people respond I have to see what
>> they are responding to.
>
> So get a newsreader that can filter on message content as well as
> headers. :-)
>
Recommendations?

emanon

"KingOfTheApes" <comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> (I'm not going to be posting here for a while --unless requested--,
> but in case you are not protected by the revolution soon, here's some
> practical advice so you can survive under the worst conditions)
>
> Well, it seems that self-defense sometimes calls for a gun, and there
> are plenty of offenses committed against cyclists out there.
>
> I'm not advocating violence at all, but it seems that, of all places
> where the gun may be necessary, the cyclist may have the most pressing
> need for it. Almost as much, let's say, as a pump and a multi-wrench
> tool.
>
> So let's hear from the pacifists and the NRA people alike...
>
> ...
>
> I think a water gun would be a good option. The guy may suffer from a
> heart attack, but then you respond with a random act of kindness and
> spray his windshield.
>
> That would teach him two lessons: Not to mess with the cyclists and
> that we are a friendly bunch!
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Welcome to the Jungle
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote

No, of course not. Too much extra weight ;-{)}

Doug Smith W9WI

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:30:24 -0700, KingOfTheApes wrote:

> (I'm not going to be posting here for a while --unless requested--,
> but in case you are not protected by the revolution soon, here's some
> practical advice so you can survive under the worst conditions)
>
> Well, it seems that self-defense sometimes calls for a gun, and there
> are plenty of offenses committed against cyclists out there.

I wish I could carry a sawed-off shotgun on my bike.

Have never felt the need to shoot a human, but can think of plenty of dogs
that could stand a few dozen pellets.

Tom Keats

In article <pan.2008.06.22.02.37.09.704195@invalid.nospam>,
Doug Smith W9WI <w9wi@invalid.nospam> writes:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:30:24 -0700, KingOfTheApes wrote:
>
>> (I'm not going to be posting here for a while --unless requested--,
>> but in case you are not protected by the revolution soon, here's some
>> practical advice so you can survive under the worst conditions)
>>
>> Well, it seems that self-defense sometimes calls for a gun, and there
>> are plenty of offenses committed against cyclists out there.
>
> I wish I could carry a sawed-off shotgun on my bike.
>
> Have never felt the need to shoot a human, but can think of plenty of dogs
> that could stand a few dozen pellets.

Revenge is a temptation that diminishes us.


cheers,
Tom

--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

Rob Morley

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:30:34 +0100
Steve C <sc99cs@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Rob Morley wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:38:59 -0500
> > "Amy Blankenship" <Amy_nospam@magnoliamultimedia.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Could we adopt a policy of not responding to this guy? I have him
> >> comfortably filtered out, but when people respond I have to see
> >> what they are responding to.
> >
> > So get a newsreader that can filter on message content as well as
> > headers. :-)
> >
> Recommendations?

On Windows I use Microplanet Gravity
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpgravity/
and on Linux I use Claws Mail http://www.claws-mail.org/
Many other posters will no doubt have their own preferences.

Steve C

Rob Morley wrote:

>> Recommendations?
>
> On Windows I use Microplanet Gravity
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpgravity/
> and on Linux I use Claws Mail http://www.claws-mail.org/
> Many other posters will no doubt have their own preferences.
>

Thanks Rob. I'll give those a go.

Steve

Patrick Lamb

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:37:09 -0500, Doug Smith W9WI
<w9wi@invalid.nospam> wrote:
>On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:30:24 -0700, KingOfTheApes wrote:
>
>> (I'm not going to be posting here for a while --unless requested--,
>> but in case you are not protected by the revolution soon, here's some
>> practical advice so you can survive under the worst conditions)
>>
>> Well, it seems that self-defense sometimes calls for a gun, and there
>> are plenty of offenses committed against cyclists out there.
>
>I wish I could carry a sawed-off shotgun on my bike.
>
>Have never felt the need to shoot a human, but can think of plenty of dogs
>that could stand a few dozen pellets.

I was thinking yesterday afternoon about a paint ball gun to adorn a
certain maroon pick-em-up truck (driven by another maroon).

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