Cycling and bicycle racing discussion forums.   View New Forum Topics
Today's Forum Topics

Set as homepage


Go Back   Cycling Forums > Bike Racing > Grand Tours - Giro - Tour de France - Vuelta a España
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Welcome to CyclingForums.com

You are currently viewing our website as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions. You will have to register before you can post to this thread.

By joining our free online community you will have access to post new topics, communicate privately with other cyclingforums.com members (PM), respond to polls, upload photos and access other special features like product reviews and classifieds.


Tour de France 2008: Pre-race Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 27-06.-2008, 05:05 AM   #61
hawkeye87
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 287
Default Re: Tour de France 2008: Pre-race Talk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crankyfeet
I gather Bennati has withdrawn because of an injury to his achilles tendon sustained in the Giro... that has not recovered.

Bad news for the ladies. Boonen and Bennati out.

You have that right! Well, especially for Bennati. But Thor is still racing!
__________________

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." -- Wayne Gretzsky
hawkeye87 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 28-06.-2008, 08:57 PM   #62
Anticyclone
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 231
Default Re: Tour de France 2008: Pre-race Talk

Which French rider will come out of this the best? With the chance of this being the cleanest tour for ages will a Frenchman target the overall hoping to sneak into the top 10? Admittedly this contains the assumptions that this tour will be the cleanest and that the French have been held back by not doping or by doping less than others but both are possible. Moreau won the Dauphine last year but crashed in the Tour and finished 37th. Maybe this year will see him have better luck although he is getting pretty old now. Cyril Dessel did well in the Dauphine but again he is getting on as well. Maybe Sylvain Chavanel will aim for a top 20? Pretty slim pickings really. Probably the best chance of a high placing is for someone who is capable of about 30th being let go in one of those breaks that stay away and gain half an hour on everyone. Maybe one of the above will go for breaks in the mountains and try to get the polka dot jersey?
Anticyclone is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 30-06.-2008, 06:56 PM   #63
mitosis
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: east coast australia
Posts: 1,423
Default Re: Tour de France 2008: Pre-race Talk

Quote:
Originally Posted by confusedfan
Or if he potentially can win on the Champs Elysees ... I think that was his first really important victory, 1999 for Rabobank, first Tour stage win as well I think.

True. I think he has only failed to finish one TdeF out of 10 and that was when he was injured last year.
mitosis is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-07.-2008, 07:16 PM   #64
Crankyfeet
Registered User
 
Crankyfeet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: You are here => X
Posts: 10,494
Default Re: Tour de France 2008: Pre-race Talk

Has anyone seen the Quick Step line-up for the race? Is Devolder going to get more support now that Boonen is a non-starter?

Here's the start list I just dragged off CN. Haven't got much of a clue as to the strengths of the domestiques.


Carlos Barredo (Spa)
Matteo Carrara (Ita)
Stijn Devolder (Bel)
Steven De Jongh (Ned)
Sébastien Rosseler (Bel)
Gert Steegmans (Bel)
Matteo Tosatto (Ita)
Mauro Facci (Ita)
Jurgen Van de Walle (Bel)
__________________


Crankyfeet is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-07.-2008, 07:33 PM   #65
thunder
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,558
Default Re: Tour de France 2008: Pre-race Talk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crankyfeet
Has anyone seen the Quick Step line-up for the race? Is Devolder going to get more support now that Boonen is a non-starter?

Here's the start list I just dragged off CN. Haven't got much of a clue as to the strengths of the domestiques.


Carlos Barredo (Spa)
Matteo Carrara (Ita)
Stijn Devolder (Bel)
Steven De Jongh (Ned)
Sébastien Rosseler (Bel)
Gert Steegmans (Bel)
Matteo Tosatto (Ita)
Mauro Facci (Ita)
Jurgen Van de Walle (Bel)

you can send him a few of crankiesfeets jock straps for extra support.
thunder is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-07.-2008, 07:36 PM   #66
Crankyfeet
Registered User
 
Crankyfeet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: You are here => X
Posts: 10,494
Default Re: Tour de France 2008: Pre-race Talk

Quote:
Originally Posted by thunder
you can send him a few of crankiesfeets jock straps for extra support.
Thanks for the expert analysis...
__________________


Crankyfeet is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-07.-2008, 07:40 PM   #67
thunder
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,558
Default Re: Tour de France 2008: Pre-race Talk

Carlos Barredo (Spa) all round domestique, but think he will be a stage hunter
Matteo Carrara (Ita) hmmm not sure off hand
Stijn Devolder (Bel) wont do jack shit anyway
Steven De Jongh (Ned) good sprinte in his own right, Steegmans leadout man
Sébastien Rosseler (Bel) good tter, domestique duties, work in leadout train
Gert Steegmans (Bel)
Matteo Tosatto (Ita) leadout train,
Mauro Facci (Ita) not sure, assume decent all round rider/domestique role
Jurgen Van de Walle (Bel) not sure, see above
thunder is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-07.-2008, 08:17 PM   #68
Crankyfeet
Registered User
 
Crankyfeet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: You are here => X
Posts: 10,494
Default Re: Tour de France 2008: Pre-race Talk

Quote:
Originally Posted by thunder
Carlos Barredo (Spa) all round domestique, but think he will be a stage hunter
Matteo Carrara (Ita) hmmm not sure off hand
Stijn Devolder (Bel) wont do jack shit anyway
Steven De Jongh (Ned) good sprinte in his own right, Steegmans leadout man
Sébastien Rosseler (Bel) good tter, domestique duties, work in leadout train
Gert Steegmans (Bel)
Matteo Tosatto (Ita) leadout train,
Mauro Facci (Ita) not sure, assume decent all round rider/domestique role
Jurgen Van de Walle (Bel) not sure, see above
From some cursory research... most of your unknowns look like leadout train guys with some allround capabilities.

Carrara (29yrs and 72kg) has a fourth in the 2007 Tour de Suisse, a 6th and 10th in the 2006 Giro di Lombardia and Milan-Sanremo respectively... and points classifications in 2003 Tour of Qinghai Lake and the Osterreich Rundfahrt. He was riding for Lampre in 2004, Barloworld in 2005, Lampre again in 2006, and Unibet in 2007.

Facci (26yrs and 70kg) is a late young switch replacement for Van Impe. His sole pro palmares are in Team Time Trials. He was with Barloworld in 2006... and QS since.

And Van de Walle (31 yrs and 75kg) won the Belgian U19 Road Race in 1995 and came second in the Belgian U19 TT that same year. He was with minor Conti teams before joining QS in 2006.
__________________



Last edited by Crankyfeet : 03-07.-2008 at 08:37 PM.
Crankyfeet is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-07.-2008, 08:54 PM   #69
lucybears
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 202
Default Re: Tour de France 2008: Pre-race Talk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crankyfeet
Has anyone seen the Quick Step line-up for the race?

For startlist info
http://startlist.cyclingfever.com/
lucybears is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-07.-2008, 07:31 AM   #70
Crankyfeet
Registered User
 
Crankyfeet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: You are here => X
Posts: 10,494
Default Re: Tour de France 2008: Pre-race Talk

Some nice TdF intro videos that play automatically on Versus' site.

http://www.versus.com/tdf



Versus will be streaming the first two stages live on the internet prior to the TV coverage starting at 8:30am EST in the US.
__________________


Crankyfeet is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-07.-2008, 10:20 AM   #71
Crankyfeet
Registered User
 
Crankyfeet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: You are here => X
Posts: 10,494
Default Re: Tour de France 2008: Pre-race Talk

Horner picks his tour favorites... from cyclingnews.com


http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/200...08_chris_horner


PS - Does everyone here read CN and linking to there is just a waste of time?
__________________


Crankyfeet is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-07.-2008, 10:22 AM   #72
thunder
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,558
Default Re: Tour de France 2008: Pre-race Talk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crankyfeet
Horner picks his tour favorites... from cyclingnews.com


http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/200...08_chris_horner


PS - Does everyone here read CN and linking to there is just a waste of time?

yep
thunder is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-07.-2008, 12:19 PM   #73
confusedfan
Registered User
 
confusedfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 388
Default Re: Tour de France 2008: Pre-race Talk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crankyfeet
PS - Does everyone here read CN and linking to there is just a waste of time?
true, many likely read CN - but with so many sources and articles to read about Tour stuff these days, I appreciate (even if thunder doesn't ) the links to articles others found interesting in case I missed something (eg. I hadn't yet noticed this Horner article, so thanks!)
__________________

confusedfan is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-07.-2008, 12:25 PM   #74
confusedfan
Registered User
 
confusedfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 388
Default Re: Tour de France 2008: Pre-race Talk

re: Horner interview on CN - Horner always seems to have good insight about strategy stuff ... his comments about Beloki in 2003 (ie, why was he riding so aggressively in the first place when he crashed?) were interesting, never thought about it like that before.
__________________

confusedfan is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-07.-2008, 12:27 PM   #75
thunder
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,558
Default Re: Tour de France 2008: Pre-race Talk

Quote:
Originally Posted by confusedfan
re: Horner interview on CN - Horner always seems to have good insight about strategy stuff ... his comments about Beloki in 2003 (ie, why was he riding so aggressively in the first place when he crashed?) were interesting, never thought about it like that before.

Horner was in America

Beloki was looking good that Tour, I think Armstrong and Beloki were chasing, not just Beloki.

Beloki would have pushed Armstrong.
thunder is offline  
Reply With Quote

Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT +10. The time now is 11:01 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Copyright © 2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2001 - 2006 cyclingforums.com

Links to websites we like:
Pezcyclingnews | Cyclingnews.com | Wine Zone | iinet