SHIRTS: Which One Is Best ??

Maple Tree

"Bret" <bret.wade@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 15, 2:46 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 15, 10:46 pm, "Maple Tree" <n...@none.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, for hot weather is there a particular company that is producing the
> > best
> > material and shirts for road racing/touring ?
>
> > Thanks
>
> The Assos SL Sleeveless Jersey is probably the most expensive of its
> kind, so must be the
> best:http://www.competitivecyclist.com/r...pparel/2008-ass...
>
> You can't road race with it.
>
> -ilan

You can in Colorado:

11.3.1 All riders must wear jerseys. Sleeveless jerseys are permitted.
All riders must wear cycling shorts. No article of clothing may
be worn that serves solely an aerodynamic purpose.

http://americancyc.web152.discounta...a-rule-book.pdf

Nashbar sells a very good one that's on sale for $15 now:

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?...0All%20Products

Bret

Hi, just to clarify, I did not specify sleeveless jerseys, I just stated the
best one's considering materials, etc, short sleeves are fine too!

RicodJour

On Jun 15, 7:06 pm, "Carl Sundquist" <carl...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Carl Sundquist" <carl...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> When the men hunt deer, they do so in a most traditional and yet
> unconventional manner. They pursue the game on foot, until the deer drops
> from sheer exhaustion; they then butcher it and haul the meat back to their
> village for their families. They don't even need guns!

There was an article in Sports Illustrated a bunch of years ago about
a runner who ran a deer to ground. The deer would bolt and then stop
when it thought it was out of range, wait until the runner got too
close, then take off again. The runner had an advantage in being able
to read the terrain better and would take a more efficient route which
helped offset the speed imbalance. Eventually endurance won out over
fleetness of foot, and the runner was able to walk up to the exhausted
deer and touch it, symbolizing a kill.

I think that's how the Grand Tours should be run.

> The men have a game of kick-ball, which they call rarapìpama, or
> carrera de bola, where they kick and chase a small wooden ball over hill and
> dale for up to three days straight, and covering 120 miles. This competition
> is generally between two or more communities.

North American Native Americans in the Northeast played baggataway,
which evolved (devolved) into lacrosse. The original game would go on
for days, have several hundred players per side, goals that were miles
apart, deaths were not uncommon and the game was a preparation, or
avoidance of, war.

I think that's how the Grand Tours should be run. If the Lanterne
Rouge was killed each day, and nobody could DNS or DNF, I think the
riding speed would pick up quite a bit. See? No need for dope at
all! Think of it as Cy-culling.

R

Steven Bornfeld

RicodJour wrote:
> On Jun 15, 4:46 pm, "Maple Tree" <n...@none.com> wrote:
>> Hi, for hot weather is there a particular company that is producing the best
>> material and shirts for road racing/touring ?
>
> Hey Sparky, a few observations:
> 1). You're a wanker. Maybe not a particularly insightful
> observation, but I thought we should get it out of the way up front.
> 2). People that wear flip flops while riding to the beach wear
> shirts, usually of the T or wife beater variety. Most people wear
> jerseys.
> 3). I have no idea what you mean by best. When you say best do you
> mean everyone agrees they're the best, best value, best fit, best
> looking or what?
> 4). Racing isn't touring, but I'm sure you could pick up a nifty USPS
> LANCE jersey on eBay and be the absolute coolest guy in the sag wagon
> either way!
>
> R


http://www.noisetank.com/integrity/

Ryan Cousineau

In article
<3b156acb-c300-4d88-8f3a-b350bd00ada5@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
Bret <bret.wade@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jun 15, 2:46*pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jun 15, 10:46*pm, "Maple Tree" <n...@none.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, for hot weather is there a particular company that is producing the
> > > best
> > > material and shirts for road racing/touring ?
> >
> > > Thanks
> >
> > The Assos SL Sleeveless Jersey is probably the most expensive of its
> > kind, so must be the
> > best:http://www.competitivecyclist.com/r...pparel/2008-ass..
> > .
> >
> > You can't road race with it.
> >
> > -ilan
>
> You can in Colorado:
>
> 11.3.1 All riders must wear jerseys. Sleeveless jerseys are permitted.
> All riders must wear cycling shorts. No article of clothing may
> be worn that serves solely an aerodynamic purpose.

> Bret

That's it, Colorado is on my list. What next, TTs with swim and run
stages?

It's a slippery slope!

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Bret

On Jun 15, 6:34*pm, "Maple Tree" <n...@none.com> wrote:
> "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3b156acb-c300-4d88-8f3a-b350bd00ada5@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 15, 2:46 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Jun 15, 10:46 pm, "Maple Tree" <n...@none.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hi, for hot weather is there a particular company that is producing the
> > > best
> > > material and shirts for road racing/touring ?
>
> > > Thanks
>
> > The Assos SL Sleeveless Jersey is probably the most expensive of its
> > kind, so must be the
> > best:http://www.competitivecyclist.com/r...pparel/2008-ass...
>
> > You can't road race with it.
>
> > -ilan
>
> You can in Colorado:
>
> 11.3.1 All riders must wear jerseys. Sleeveless jerseys are permitted.
> All riders must wear cycling shorts. No article of clothing may
> be worn that serves solely an aerodynamic purpose.
>
> http://americancyc.web152.discounta...ts/aca-rule-boo...
>
> Nashbar sells a very good one that's on sale for $15 now:
>
> http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?...ry=&brand=&sku=...
>
> Bret
>
> Hi, just to clarify, I did not specify sleeveless jerseys, I just stated the
> best one's considering materials, etc, short sleeves are fine too!

You did specifically say that you wanted the best shirt for hot
weather. If you have a sleeve fetish you should have said so up front
and maybe have taken this over to rec.bicycles.soc.

Bret

Bret

On Jun 15, 9:34*pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <3b156acb-c300-4d88-8f3a-b350bd00a...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> *Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 15, 2:46*pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Jun 15, 10:46*pm, "Maple Tree" <n...@none.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi, for hot weather is there a particular company that is producing the
> > > > best
> > > > material and shirts for road racing/touring ?
>
> > > > Thanks
>
> > > The Assos SL Sleeveless Jersey is probably the most expensive of its
> > > kind, so must be the
> > > best:http://www.competitivecyclist.com/r...pparel/2008-ass..
> > > .
>
> > > You can't road race with it.
>
> > > -ilan
>
> > You can in Colorado:
>
> > 11.3.1 All riders must wear jerseys. Sleeveless jerseys are permitted.
> > All riders must wear cycling shorts. No article of clothing may
> > be worn that serves solely an aerodynamic purpose.
> > Bret
>
> That's it, Colorado is on my list. What next, TTs with swim and run
> stages?
>
> It's a slippery slope!
>
> --
> Ryan Cousineau rcous...@gmail.comhttp://www.wiredcola.com/
> "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
> "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

I think this has more to do with sleeveless MTB'rs than multisport
folks. One of the guys involved with the ACA rule book also promoted a
Tuesday night series race series that would attract a diverse and
occasionally sleeveless clientele. Being a lawyer in real life and a
stickler for rules he would have to turn the sleeve deprived away
until the rule was changed.

Speaking of multisport folks, I was recently riding in Tuscany with a
former Hawaii Ironman winner (SM) and the guy has a beer at every rest
stop. He would order a beer and then the Italians would assume that I
wanted one too which wasn't far wrong. One day we rode a very hilly
100 miles from one hotel to another and there was no food available
when we arrived. Each room had a complimentary bottle of white wine in
the refrigerator and we had drunk our two bottles before anyone else
arrived. What I'm saying is that you may have more in common with
multisport than you realize.

Bret

A R:nen

"Maple Tree" <none@none.com> writes:

> Hi, for hot weather is there a particular company that is producing the best
> material and shirts for road racing/touring ?

For racing, by definition the best company is the one that produces
your team kit, and since changing suppliers is enough of a PITA
(not unlike our supplier's shorts BTW), you are most likely stuck with
whatever somebody chose way back when...

(Me, I like Giordana, but I couldn't possibly tell if it's just the
clothes or that subtle product placement on "Friends" aeons ago.)

Ted van de Weteringe

Bret schreef:
> Speaking of multisport folks, I was recently riding in Tuscany with a
> former Hawaii Ironman winner (SM) and the guy has a beer at every rest
> stop.

Is it to forget about his crimes against humanity?
http://www.scottmolina.com/gallery/...p?album=1&pos=1

cyclingthings@gmail.com

On Jun 15, 3:46 pm, "Maple Tree" <n...@none.com> wrote:
> Hi, for hot weather is there a particular company that is producing the best
> material and shirts for road racing/touring ?
>
> Thanks

there is a company called cycling wear which these guys sell. They
have perforated side panels which made the jersdeys really cool plus
they have full front zippers
check them out
http://www.bikingthings.com

Donald Munro

Bret wrote:
> 11.3.1 All riders must wear jerseys. Sleeveless jerseys are permitted. All
> riders must wear cycling shorts. No article of clothing may be worn that
> serves solely an aerodynamic purpose.
>
> http://americancyc.web152.discounta...a-rule-book.pdf

Anyone seen a gorilla in a sleeveless jersey.

Paul G.

On Jun 16, 6:00 am, cyclingthi...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 15, 3:46 pm, "Maple Tree" <n...@none.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, for hot weather is there a particular company that is producing the best
> > material and shirts for road racing/touring ?
>
> > Thanks
>
> there is a company called cycling wear which these guys sell. They
> have perforated side panels which made the jersdeys really cool plus
> they have full front zippers
> check them outhttp://www.bikingthings.com

Very cool: "The shirt that will chill them. ™"
-Paul

Kurgan Gringioni

On Jun 16, 6:00*am, cyclingthi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> there is a company called cycling wear which these guys sell. They
> have perforated side panels which made the jersdeys really cool plus
> they have full front zippers
> check them outhttp://www.bikingthings.com



Dumbass -


Ass.os is the most expensive and therefore the best


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Bob Schwartz

Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> On Jun 16, 6:00 am, cyclingthi...@gmail.com wrote:
>> there is a company called cycling wear which these guys sell. They
>> have perforated side panels which made the jersdeys really cool plus
>> they have full front zippers
>> check them outhttp://www.bikingthings.com
>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
>
> Ass.os is the most expensive and therefore the best

The bikingthings jerseys come in XXXL.

Bob Schwartz

Andre Jute

On Jun 15, 10:32*pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 15, 4:46 pm, "Maple Tree" <n...@none.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, for hot weather is there a particular company that is producing the best
> > material and shirts for road racing/touring ?
>
> Hey Sparky, a few observations:
> 1). *You're a wanker. *Maybe not a particularly insightful
> observation, but I thought we should get it out of the way up front.
> 2). *People that wear flip flops while riding to the beach wear
> shirts, usually of the T or wife beater variety. *Most people wear
> jerseys.
> 3). *I have no idea what you mean by best. *When you say best do you
> mean everyone agrees they're the best, best value, best fit, best
> looking or what?
> 4). *Racing isn't touring, but I'm sure you could pick up a nifty USPS
> LANCE jersey on eBay and be the absolute coolest guy in the sag wagon
> either way!
>
> R

You're a worse snob than the OP, Rico. What sort of a name is Rico
anyway for a grown man? -- AJ