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VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how
was it up the final part of the climb? LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit, Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia and Valverde can really descend fast. |
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On Jun 13, 1:32*pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
wrote: > VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how > was it up the final part of the climb? > > LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour > de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for > him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and > he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own > pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit, > Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I > think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls > across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of > the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see > Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By > the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going > pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s > different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia > and Valverde can really descend fast. "I suck at bike racing and hate people who are good at it." |
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On Jun 13, 4:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
wrote: > VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how > was it up the final part of the climb? > > LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour > de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for > him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and > he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own > pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit, > Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I > think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls > across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of > the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see > Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By > the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going > pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s > different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia > and Valverde can really descend fast. Ummm, okay. Jeg kan ikke forstå hva Cadel gjorde. Folk som vinner Tour de France ikke rase liker det. Han var bare gjør Alejandro jobb for ham. Nå har han andre i stedet for en tredjedel. Du har to race for å vinne og han var ikke åpenbart gjør det. Jeg var clawing vei tilbake på min egen tempo og jeg var nære, men med om lag en kilometer fra toppen, Cadel begynte å trekke disse fyrene. Jeg har akkurat eksplodert litt og jeg tror jeg tapte rundt 30 sekunder. Den Joux-Plane slags rundstykker øverst og det er en oppoverbakke delen etter King of fjellet banneret. De hadde en liten gruppe går og jeg kunne se Szmyd angripe. Det er alltid lettere i en gruppe enn å gå alene. Ved den tiden jeg trykke ned, jeg kunne ikke se dem lenger. Jeg skulle ganske raskt, men når du ved deg selv på den ned, det er annerledes. Jeg vet ikke som var ledende i denne gruppen, men Zubeldia og Valverde virkelig kan stige fort. R |
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On Jun 13, 1:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
wrote: > VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how > was it up the final part of the climb? > > LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour > de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for > him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and > he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own > pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit, > Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I > think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls > across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of > the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see > Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By > the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going > pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s > different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia > and Valverde can really descend fast. He's frustrated, seeing 2nd place slip away. He didn't like Cadel towing Valverde up the mountain, wanted him to attack Valverde instead of him (Leipheimer). It's a fine distinction, seems to me that moving from 3rd to 2nd is a good move, and Cadel says he can't beat Valverde anyway. At 34, Levi doesn't have a lot of time left to race at this level. No shame in that, it's just reality and he's had a hell of a run. -Paul |
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On Jun 13, 2:55 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 13, 4:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how > > was it up the final part of the climb? > > > LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour > > de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for > > him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and > > he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own > > pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit, > > Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I > > think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls > > across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of > > the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see > > Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By > > the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going > > pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s > > different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia > > and Valverde can really descend fast. > > Ummm, okay. > > Jeg kan ikke forstå hva Cadel gjorde. Folk som vinner Tour > de France ikke rase liker det. Han var bare gjør Alejandro jobb for > ham. Nå har han andre i stedet for en tredjedel. Du har to race for å > vinne og > han var ikke åpenbart gjør det. Jeg var clawing vei tilbake på min > egen > tempo og jeg var nære, men med om lag en kilometer fra toppen, > Cadel begynte å trekke disse fyrene. Jeg har akkurat eksplodert litt > og jeg > tror jeg tapte rundt 30 sekunder. Den Joux-Plane slags rundstykker > øverst og det er en oppoverbakke delen etter King of > fjellet banneret. De hadde en liten gruppe går og jeg kunne se > Szmyd angripe. Det er alltid lettere i en gruppe enn å gå alene. Ved > den tiden jeg trykke ned, jeg kunne ikke se dem lenger. Jeg skulle > ganske raskt, men når du ved deg selv på den ned, det er > annerledes. Jeg vet ikke som var ledende i denne gruppen, men Zubeldia > og Valverde virkelig kan stige fort. > > R Are you Norwegian? I have relatives in Bergen. -Paul |
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On Jun 13, 10:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
wrote: > VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how > was it up the final part of the climb? > > LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour > de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for > him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and > he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own > pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit, > Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I > think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls > across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of > the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see > Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By > the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going > pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s > different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia > and Valverde can really descend fast. After I retire, which is anytime now, I'm going to be a DS and you will be able to hear me complaining this way live during the race. -ilan |
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On Jun 13, 8:39 pm, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
> On Jun 13, 2:55 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote: > > On Jun 13, 4:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how > > > was it up the final part of the climb? > > > > LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour > > > de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for > > > him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and > > > he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own > > > pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit, > > > Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I > > > think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls > > > across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of > > > the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see > > > Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By > > > the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going > > > pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s > > > different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia > > > and Valverde can really descend fast. > > > Ummm, okay. > > > Jeg kan ikke forstå hva Cadel gjorde. Folk som vinner Tour > > de France ikke rase liker det. Han var bare gjør Alejandro jobb for > > ham. Nå har han andre i stedet for en tredjedel. Du har to race for å > > vinne og > > han var ikke åpenbart gjør det. Jeg var clawing vei tilbake på min > > egen > > tempo og jeg var nære, men med om lag en kilometer fra toppen, > > Cadel begynte å trekke disse fyrene. Jeg har akkurat eksplodert litt > > og jeg > > tror jeg tapte rundt 30 sekunder. Den Joux-Plane slags rundstykker > > øverst og det er en oppoverbakke delen etter King of > > fjellet banneret. De hadde en liten gruppe går og jeg kunne se > > Szmyd angripe. Det er alltid lettere i en gruppe enn å gå alene. Ved > > den tiden jeg trykke ned, jeg kunne ikke se dem lenger. Jeg skulle > > ganske raskt, men når du ved deg selv på den ned, det er > > annerledes. Jeg vet ikke som var ledende i denne gruppen, men Zubeldia > > og Valverde virkelig kan stige fort. > > > Are you Norwegian? I have relatives in Bergen. 1). No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night. 2). No, but I had a Norwegian girlfriend from Bergen. Maybe she knows your relatives? Is a relative? 3). No, Google's language tools take the credit. Two of the three are true. R |
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On Jun 13, 8:12 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 13, 8:39 pm, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 13, 2:55 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote: > > > On Jun 13, 4:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how > > > > was it up the final part of the climb? > > > > > LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour > > > > de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for > > > > him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and > > > > he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own > > > > pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit, > > > > Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I > > > > think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls > > > > across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of > > > > the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see > > > > Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By > > > > the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going > > > > pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s > > > > different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia > > > > and Valverde can really descend fast. > > > > Ummm, okay. > > > > Jeg kan ikke forstå hva Cadel gjorde. Folk som vinner Tour > > > de France ikke rase liker det. Han var bare gjør Alejandro jobb for > > > ham. Nå har han andre i stedet for en tredjedel. Du har to race for å > > > vinne og > > > han var ikke åpenbart gjør det. Jeg var clawing vei tilbake på min > > > egen > > > tempo og jeg var nære, men med om lag en kilometer fra toppen, > > > Cadel begynte å trekke disse fyrene. Jeg har akkurat eksplodert litt > > > og jeg > > > tror jeg tapte rundt 30 sekunder. Den Joux-Plane slags rundstykker > > > øverst og det er en oppoverbakke delen etter King of > > > fjellet banneret. De hadde en liten gruppe går og jeg kunne se > > > Szmyd angripe. Det er alltid lettere i en gruppe enn å gå alene. Ved > > > den tiden jeg trykke ned, jeg kunne ikke se dem lenger. Jeg skulle > > > ganske raskt, men når du ved deg selv på den ned, det er > > > annerledes. Jeg vet ikke som var ledende i denne gruppen, men Zubeldia > > > og Valverde virkelig kan stige fort. > > > Are you Norwegian? I have relatives in Bergen. > > 1). No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night. > 2). No, but I had a Norwegian girlfriend from Bergen. Maybe she knows > your relatives? Is a relative? > 3). No, Google's language tools take the credit. > > Two of the three are true. > > R OK, your translation and Google's are identical, so I'll bet on 3 and 2. Hope you got a chance to see Bergen, it's a beautiful city. -Paul |
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On Jun 13, 11:55*pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 13, 4:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how > > was it up the final part of the climb? > > > LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour > > de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for > > him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and > > he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own > > pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit, > > Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I > > think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls > > across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of > > the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see > > Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By > > the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going > > pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s > > different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia > > and Valverde can really descend fast. > > Ummm, okay. > > Jeg kan ikke forstå hva Cadel gjorde. Folk som vinner Tour > de France ikke rase liker det. Han var bare gjør Alejandro jobb for > ham. Nå har han andre i stedet for en tredjedel. Du har to race for å > vinne og > han var ikke åpenbart gjør det. Jeg var clawing vei tilbake på min > egen > tempo og jeg var nære, men med om lag en kilometer fra toppen, > Cadel begynte å trekke disse fyrene. Jeg har akkurat eksplodert litt > og jeg > tror jeg tapte rundt 30 sekunder. Den Joux-Plane slags rundstykker > øverst og det er en oppoverbakke delen etter King of > fjellet banneret. De hadde en liten gruppe går og jeg kunne se > Szmyd angripe. Det er alltid lettere i en gruppe enn å gå alene. Ved > den tiden jeg trykke ned, jeg kunne ikke se dem lenger. Jeg skulle > ganske raskt, men når du ved deg selv på den ned, det er > annerledes. Jeg vet ikke som var ledende i denne gruppen, men Zubeldia > og Valverde virkelig kan stige fort. > > R When I read that with a refugee's accent, that actually made some sense! The bit about dinner rolls was confusing. Joseph |
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> 2). No, but I had a Norwegian girlfriend Did you end up sleeping in the bath alone ? |
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On Jun 14, 1:11 am, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
> On Jun 13, 8:12 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote: > > On Jun 13, 8:39 pm, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote: > > > On Jun 13, 2:55 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 13, 4:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com> > > > > > > VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit,how > > > > > was it up the final part of the climb? > > > > > > LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour > > > > > de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for > > > > > him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and > > > > > he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own > > > > > pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit, > > > > > Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit andI > > > > > think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls > > > > > across the top and there’s another uphill section after the Kingof > > > > > the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see > > > > > Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone.By > > > > > the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going > > > > > pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s > > > > > different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia > > > > > and Valverde can really descend fast. > > > > > Ummm, okay. > > > > > Jeg kan ikke forstå hva Cadel gjorde. Folk som vinner Tour > > > > de France ikke rase liker det. Han var bare gjør Alejandro jobb for > > > > ham. Nå har han andre i stedet for en tredjedel. Du har to race for å > > > > vinne og > > > > han var ikke åpenbart gjør det. Jeg var clawing vei tilbake påmin > > > > egen > > > > tempo og jeg var nære, men med om lag en kilometer fra toppen, > > > > Cadel begynte å trekke disse fyrene. Jeg har akkurat eksplodert litt > > > > og jeg > > > > tror jeg tapte rundt 30 sekunder. Den Joux-Plane slags rundstykker > > > > øverst og det er en oppoverbakke delen etter King of > > > > fjellet banneret. De hadde en liten gruppe går og jeg kunne se > > > > Szmyd angripe. Det er alltid lettere i en gruppe enn å gå alene.Ved > > > > den tiden jeg trykke ned, jeg kunne ikke se dem lenger. Jeg skulle > > > > ganske raskt, men når du ved deg selv på den ned, det er > > > > annerledes. Jeg vet ikke som var ledende i denne gruppen, men Zubeldia > > > > og Valverde virkelig kan stige fort. > > > > Are you Norwegian? I have relatives in Bergen. > > > 1). No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night. > > 2). No, but I had a Norwegian girlfriend from Bergen. Maybe she knows > > your relatives? Is a relative? > > 3). No, Google's language tools take the credit. > > > Two of the three are true. > > OK, your translation and Google's are identical, so I'll bet on 3 and > 2. Hope you got a chance to see Bergen, it's a beautiful city. I'm still hoping! R |
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On Jun 14, 4:55 am, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> RicodJour wrote: > > 2). No, but I had a Norwegian girlfriend > > Did you end up sleeping in the bath alone ? I heard a whooshing sound so I know something went right over my head. To paraphrase: "Huh?" R |
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RicodJour schreef:
> Donald Munro wrote: >> RicodJour wrote: >>> 2). No, but I had a Norwegian girlfriend >> Did you end up sleeping in the bath alone ? > > I heard a whooshing sound so I know something went right over my head. > To paraphrase: "Huh?" Barbarian. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaNQjhXhfVs |
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:26:07 GMT, John Forrest Tomlinson
<usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote: >On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:08:29 +0200, Ted van de Weteringe ><myfullname@xs4all.nl.invalid> wrote: > >>RicodJour schreef: >>> I heard a whooshing sound so I know something went right over my head. >>> To paraphrase: "Huh?" >> >>Barbarian. >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaNQjhXhfVs > >Whoa. Those Beatles were some messed up dudes. Dopers too. |
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