Grrr. Temporary traffic lights.

Nigel Randell

>
> I was in this position, still indicating right turn, for about 100m,
> when a car roared up behind me, hand on horn. I ignored it as I was
> approaching my turn. The driver then leaned out and yelled "Get out
> of my way, I'm a f****** car"

This goes beyond penis extension. The guy is clearly confused as to where
he ends and the machine begins.

Or you could have come across Herbie on a really bad day.

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Peter Scandrett

A.C.P.Crawshaw wrote on 13/06/2008 14:22:
> He started ranting so I shouted "bike lane"
> and pointed downwards before riding off. They complain about us not
> using the facilities provided, then they block them.

It seems that around here (Manchester) only about 25% of drivers respect
the ASLs at traffic lights. Because cars are bigger than I am I just
position myself in the safest position I can, normally nestled behind
the car in the cycle box, but it does annoy me. Even as a car/van driver
I get annoyed by cars that miss the stop lines and those that treat them
as merely advisory.

I don't suppose there's anything I can say to people in the ASL 'box' is
there...? Asking them to move forwards or backwards isn't much good...
and I don't want to start an argument, because I'm not a confrontational
sort of person...

Peter

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Nigel Cliffe

Peter Scandrett wrote:
> A.C.P.Crawshaw wrote on 13/06/2008 14:22:
>> He started ranting so I shouted "bike lane"
>> and pointed downwards before riding off. They complain about us not
>> using the facilities provided, then they block them.
>
> It seems that around here (Manchester) only about 25% of drivers
> respect the ASLs at traffic lights. .............

> I don't suppose there's anything I can say to people in the ASL 'box'
> is there...?

Ask when they last had their brakes checked. Obviously something wrong in
that they cannot stop the car before the line.




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Nuxx Bar

On Jun 12, 10:17*pm, Martin <martin.d...@virgin.net> wrote:
> I had a lovely ride into work this morning, a reasonable day at work,
> followed by a lovely ride home this evening (until the last mile).
>
> For about the last three months there have been one or two sets of
> temporary traffic lights. As I don't consider there is enough room to
> safely be overtaken, I always take the primary pos. through these, and
> on the way home revert back to the secondary when there is room to be
> overtaken.
>
> Tonight as I approached, there was another cyclists kerb hugging in
> front of me, and a car or two squeezed past him with little room.
> The car (W481BFC) driver behind me then started honking his horn. When I
> looked behind the passenger started pointing at the kerb. I carried on
> an the driver lent on his horn. I then stopped to see what the problem
> was and he started yelling that I should be on the left.
>
> Anyway this was repeated through the second set of lights, and after
> W481BFC passed me he started yelling "Do you want to be run over."
>
> One group of idiots spoilt the whole day.

So, a fellow cyclist and three car drivers all thought there was
enough room to pass cyclists safely, but you apparently didn't. Or,
more likely, you knew there was enough room for cars to pass you
safely, but you decided to take an obstructive position anyway, as
part of your ongoing campaign to make life difficult for drivers in
order to punish them for having the nerve to drive at all. Pathetic,
as usual.

(If you really did think there wasn't enough room for cars to pass
you, which I doubt, didn't the fact that everyone else there disagreed
mean anything to you? Do you think you automatically know better than
everyone else (especially scumbag motorists), all the time? I knew
you were an arsewipe but I didn't know you were that arrogant.)

Nuxx Bar

On Jun 12, 10:42*pm, _ <jtayNOSPAM...@hfDONTSENDMESPAMx.andara.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:17:11 +0100, Martin wrote:
> > I had a lovely ride into work this morning, a reasonable day at work,
> > followed by a lovely ride home this evening (until the last mile).
>
> > For about the last three months there have been one or two sets of
> > temporary traffic lights. As I don't consider there is enough room to
> > safely be overtaken, I always take the primary pos. through these, and
> > on the way home revert back to the secondary when there is room to be
> > overtaken.
>
> > Tonight as I approached, there was another cyclists kerb hugging in
> > front of me, and a car or two squeezed past him with little room.
> > The car (W481BFC) driver behind me then started honking his horn. When I
> > looked behind the passenger started pointing at the kerb. I carried on
> > an the driver lent on his horn. I then stopped to see what the problem
> > was and he started yelling that I should be on the left.
>
> > Anyway this was repeated through the second set of lights, and after
> > W481BFC passed me he started yelling "Do you want to be run over."
>
> > One group of idiots spoilt the whole day.
>
> Camera, with flash, tends to shut them up.

Yeah. Taking photos is the solution to all our road safety problems
(not that there really was a safety problem there in the first
place...a bit like the speeding "problem" really).

I bet you'd hate it if someone followed *you* with a camera,
especially if bicycles had to have registration plates. Wouldn't you
just hate actually having to STOP (*gasp*) at red lights? What about
all that "direct action" that you've taken over the years against
motorists and their cars? You're quite happy with the idea of
motorists being photographed for anything and everything but you
wouldn't like it happening to you. Goodness me you trolls are
hypocrites.

Just zis Guy, you know?

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:01:43 -0700 (PDT), Nuxx Bar
<derderderder619@hotmail.com> said in
<b4a9b6c5-273d-4fd7-af9b-67bf6899c45d@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>:

>(not that there really was a safety problem there in the first
>place...a bit like the speeding "problem" really).

No indeed, threatening behaviour is not a road safety matter, it's a
criminal offence carrying a maximum of, I believe, six months
imprisonment. I seem to recall that it's covered under Section 4 of
the Public Order Act, 1986. No surprise that you condone other
forms of criminal behaviour, of course.

Guy
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Colin McKenzie

Nigel Cliffe wrote:

> Peter Scandrett wrote:
>>It seems that around here (Manchester) only about 25% of drivers
>>respect the ASLs at traffic lights. .............
>
>>I don't suppose there's anything I can say to people in the ASL 'box'
>>is there...?
>
> Ask when they last had their brakes checked. Obviously something wrong in
> that they cannot stop the car before the line.

Assuming that you saw them enter the box, and it wasn't genuinely
because they were too close to the first line when the lights changed,
you could do that.

I generally get right in front of them and wait there for the light to
change. If the light is visible from that position.

Colin McKenzie


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Nigel Randell

Wouldn't you
> just hate actually having to STOP (*gasp*) at red lights?

I think you will find that cyclists do actually have to STOP at red lights.
Unless you know different, of course.

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Daniel Barlow

"Nigel Randell" <nigel_randell@_1.web> writes:

> I think you will find that cyclists do actually have to STOP at red lights.
> Unless you know different, of course.

Probably. In Nuxxworld everything is different, from the colour of
the sky downwards.


-dan

Martin

Nuxx Bar wrote:
> On Jun 12, 10:17 pm, Martin <martin.d...@virgin.net> wrote:
>> I had a lovely ride into work this morning, a reasonable day at work,
>> followed by a lovely ride home this evening (until the last mile).
>>
>> For about the last three months there have been one or two sets of
>> temporary traffic lights. As I don't consider there is enough room to
>> safely be overtaken, I always take the primary pos. through these, and
>> on the way home revert back to the secondary when there is room to be
>> overtaken.
>>
>> Tonight as I approached, there was another cyclists kerb hugging in
>> front of me, and a car or two squeezed past him with little room.
>> The car (W481BFC) driver behind me then started honking his horn. When I
>> looked behind the passenger started pointing at the kerb. I carried on
>> an the driver lent on his horn. I then stopped to see what the problem
>> was and he started yelling that I should be on the left.
>>
>> Anyway this was repeated through the second set of lights, and after
>> W481BFC passed me he started yelling "Do you want to be run over."
>>
>> One group of idiots spoilt the whole day.
>
> So, a fellow cyclist and three car drivers all thought there was
> enough room to pass cyclists safely, but you apparently didn't.

Perhaps you should trying reading the highway codes before replying.
e.g. rule 163 give vulnerable road users at least as much room as you
would a car.
There is even a picture for people like you.

rule 67, look well ahead for obstructions in the road, such as drains,
pot-holes and parked vehicles........
The other cyclist was cycling on a painted line, 1 inch from a cobbled
gutter. If he had wobbled slightly then he could have come off. In the
vid he did wobble, but away from the kerb. He was not cycling at a safe
distance from the kerb.

> Or,
> more likely, you knew there was enough room for cars to pass you
> safely, but you decided to take an obstructive position anyway, as
> part of your ongoing campaign to make life difficult for drivers in
> order to punish them for having the nerve to drive at all. Pathetic,
> as usual.

If I was trying to make life difficult for the motorists, I would have
filtered forwards before the lights changed, instead I waited in the queue.

> (If you really did think there wasn't enough room for cars to pass
> you, which I doubt, didn't the fact that everyone else there disagreed
> mean anything to you?

What about the other 99 odd times going through those lights when I have
behaved similarly, and not had any problem with other people. What about
the many other times when, after I have gone through I have pulled in to
let the motorists pass. Do the 99 times with no hassle indicate that I
may have been doing something right, and just met an idiot the 100th time?

Do you think you automatically know better than
> everyone else (especially scumbag motorists), all the time? I knew
> you were an arsewipe but I didn't know you were that arrogant.)

What you meant to say was "How dare you have the gall to think you know
better than a car driver."