Cervelo story in the Globe & Mail

Robert Chung

On Jun 13, 3:42 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
wrote:

> >And perhaps some serious candidates:
> >McCain Foods (fries!)
>
> I did not know McCain was Canadian, but then I probably have never
> bought them directly in the store.

I think he was born in Panama and I'm not buying him either.

zzfranklin@mac.com

On Jun 13, 9:31 pm, Robert Chung <rech...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 13, 3:42 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
> wrote:
>
> > >And perhaps some serious candidates:
> > >McCain Foods (fries!)
>
> > I did not know McCain was Canadian, but then I probably have never
> > bought them directly in the store.
>
> I think he was born in Panama and I'm not buying him either.

http://antzinpantz.com/kns/images/If%20Obama%20Wins.jpg

Robert Chung

On Jun 13, 6:16 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:

> Avril Lavigne.

Maybe, but then you'd have to deduct for Celine Dion.

rjk3@my-deja.com

On Jun 13, 2:07 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <2d9b4898-ed08-4374-a7e2-77e68c9da...@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 12, 2:52 pm, bicycle_disciple <1.crazyboy.o...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > On Jun 12, 2:26 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > jspace...@linuxquestions.net wrote:
> > > > > Today's Globe & Mail has a story about Cervelo, how they landed the
> > > > > Team CSC contract (soon to be Team Sexy Back), how it almost blew up
> > > > > in their faces with the Basso doping scandal, etc. Read it at
> > > > >http://www.reportonbusiness.com/ser...080611.wsb-sbma...
> > > > > orhttp://tinyurl.com/4845fg
>
> > > > You know, in spite of all the hand-wringing over doping
> > > > scandals causing sponsors to leave the sport, one of
> > > > the points of the article is that it *didn't* blow up
> > > > in their faces at all.
>
> > > > "White says the doping controversies have had a negligible
> > > > effect on sales. In fact, road bikes have been the fastest
> > > > growing segment of the bicycle market in the U.S. since 2004,
> > > > with sales growing by 70% over the past three years (similar
> > > > statistics for Canada aren't available)."
>
> > > > Bob Schwartz
>
> > > Cervelo is really so much in the news these past few years that
> > > reading their same story over and over again is getting really boring.
>
> > Their publicist must be very good (to get the same boring story into
> > so many different places).
>
> There's been about five successful-outside-Canada Canadian companies in
> the last decade*, so it's easy to get their charming story in the Globe
> & Mail.
>
> *Research In Motion, Macdonald Dettweiler, Cervelo, and I can't think of
> two more.
>
> --
> Ryan Cousineau rcous...@gmail.comhttp://www.wiredcola.com/
> "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
> "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Who the hell is Macdonald Dettweiler.

Amit Ghosh

On Jun 13, 11:46 am, Bob Schwartz

> The fact that Cervelo has few sponsorship alternatives
> is irrelevant to whether or not they would take a hit
> from a doping scandal with a sponsored team. If the
> connection was there they would have taken a hit. It
> didn't happen.
>
> The sponsors never take a hit. Never.

dumbass,

big corporations work very hard to control their image (or "branding"
as they say). whether a doping scandal affects earnings negatively
isn't the only issue.

cervelo wasn't even the sponsor the team is named after, they just
supplied the bikes.

> I'll call this Hizark's Rule. All you have to do is cut
> the people that get caught and all is forgiven. A team
> like Astana can suffer years of serial doping scandals
> and even a throw-the-book-at-them doping hard liner like
> Hizark is willing to let bygones be bygones if they just
> cut the guys that got caught. Again.

astana is sponsored by a bunch of oil-rich borats who were hit up by
vino (a national figure in his homeland i'm sure) when liberty pulled
out. most corporations that deal with the public

on the other hand there is an explosion of team funded by plutocrats
and organizations that don't even market anything to the public (rich
individuals, private equity groups, etc.).

> That's why sponsors have no reason to care about that
> stuff. History shows it doesn't matter to them.
>
> Bob Schwartz

Dan O

On Jun 12, 11:07 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <2d9b4898-ed08-4374-a7e2-77e68c9da...@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 12, 2:52 pm, bicycle_disciple <1.crazyboy.o...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:

<snip>

> > > Cervelo...
>
> > Their publicist must be very good (to get the same boring story into
> > so many different places).
>
> There's been about five successful-outside-Canada Canadian companies in
> the last decade*, so it's easy to get their charming story in the Globe
> & Mail.
>
> *Research In Motion, Macdonald Dettweiler, Cervelo, and I can't think of
> two more.
>

I'd like to extend my true greatest admiration and appreciation for
the entire Canadian brewing industry.

Sandy

Dans le message de
news:4941cf4d-5fd0-4eb4-a062-d04f85533d9f@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com,
Amit Ghosh <amit.ghosh@gmail.com> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :


> astana is sponsored by a bunch of oil-rich borats

You're a scumsucking racist.

Ryan Cousineau

In article
<fb3e0ca4-09d6-4e01-81c1-af29c0a0c289@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
rjk3@my-deja.com wrote:

> On Jun 13, 2:07 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <2d9b4898-ed08-4374-a7e2-77e68c9da...@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> > Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 12, 2:52 pm, bicycle_disciple <1.crazyboy.o...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Jun 12, 2:26 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net>
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > jspace...@linuxquestions.net wrote:
> > > > > > Today's Globe & Mail has a story about Cervelo, how they landed the
> > > > > > Team CSC contract (soon to be Team Sexy Back), how it almost blew
> > > > > > up
> > > > > > in their faces with the Basso doping scandal, etc. Read it at
> > > > > >http://www.reportonbusiness.com/ser...080611.wsb-sbma
> > > > > >...
> > > > > > orhttp://tinyurl.com/4845fg
> >
> > > > > You know, in spite of all the hand-wringing over doping
> > > > > scandals causing sponsors to leave the sport, one of
> > > > > the points of the article is that it *didn't* blow up
> > > > > in their faces at all.
> >
> > > > > "White says the doping controversies have had a negligible
> > > > > effect on sales. In fact, road bikes have been the fastest
> > > > > growing segment of the bicycle market in the U.S. since 2004,
> > > > > with sales growing by 70% over the past three years (similar
> > > > > statistics for Canada aren't available)."
> >
> > > > > Bob Schwartz
> >
> > > > Cervelo is really so much in the news these past few years that
> > > > reading their same story over and over again is getting really boring.
> >
> > > Their publicist must be very good (to get the same boring story into
> > > so many different places).
> >
> > There's been about five successful-outside-Canada Canadian companies in
> > the last decade*, so it's easy to get their charming story in the Globe
> > & Mail.
> >
> > *Research In Motion, Macdonald Dettweiler, Cervelo, and I can't think of
> > two more.
> >
> > --
> > Ryan Cousineau rcous...@gmail.comhttp://www.wiredcola.com/
> > "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
> > "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
>
> Who the hell is Macdonald Dettweiler.

Google tells me I meant MacDonald Dettwiler.

True story: Vern Dettwiler spoke at our career day when I was in high
school. I didn't really understand what a big deal that was at the time.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Andrew Price

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:42:11 GMT, John Forrest Tomlinson
<usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:

>>And perhaps some serious candidates:
>>McCain Foods (fries!)
>>Maplesoft
>>Bombardier
>
>I see Bomdardier a lot where I am in New York City - they make our
>subway cars.

Bombardier is one of the world's three biggest manufacturers of subway
cars, trams, locomotives and railway rolling stock (the others being
Siemens and Alstom)

Fred Fredburger

Kurgan Gringioni wrote:

> Their publicist must be very good (to get the same boring story into
> so many different places).

Sometimes bad is good. In advertising, especially.

Another example (but you have to be an NFL fan to get it):

Last week I took Mrs. Fredburger to San Francisco in an effort to
distract her from our 20th wedding anniversary. While walking all over
SF, I saw this mounted on the wall inside a bus stop:

http://beeblebrox.endoftheinternet.org/Alex_Smith1.JPG

For you non-NFL fans, there are reasons independent of Alex Smith's
resemblance to Godzilla that make this ad a head-smacker.

Fred Fredburger

Robert Chung wrote:
> On Jun 13, 6:16 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Avril Lavigne.
>
> Maybe, but then you'd have to deduct for Celine Dion.

Two words:

Bryan Adams.

Ted van de Weteringe

Fred Fredburger schreef:
> Robert Chung wrote:
>> ilanpsi wrote:
>>> Avril Lavigne.
>>
>> Maybe, but then you'd have to deduct for Celine Dion.
>
> Two words:
> Bryan Adams.

Regardless of the bad shit, Run To You and Summer Of '69 make that a
positive.

Ted
-child of the 80s

Ryan Cousineau

In article <qpla54pll07cphbpm6c5mm4lnog04d05uj@4ax.com>,
Andrew Price <ajprice@free.fr> wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:42:11 GMT, John Forrest Tomlinson
> <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:
>
> >>And perhaps some serious candidates:
> >>McCain Foods (fries!)
> >>Maplesoft
> >>Bombardier
> >
> >I see Bomdardier a lot where I am in New York City - they make our
> >subway cars.
>
> Bombardier is one of the world's three biggest manufacturers of subway
> cars, trams, locomotives and railway rolling stock (the others being
> Siemens and Alstom)

Bombardier makes just about every sort of conveyance known to man, not
limited to: jets, boats, motorcycles (at various times), and ski-doos

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Bret

On Jun 15, 9:28*pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <qpla54pll07cphbpm6c5mm4lnog04d0...@4ax.com>,
> *Andrew Price <ajpr...@free.fr> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:42:11 GMT, John Forrest Tomlinson
> > <usenetrem...@jt10000.com> wrote:
>
> > >>And perhaps some serious candidates:
> > >>McCain Foods (fries!)
> > >>Maplesoft
> > >>Bombardier
>
> > >I see Bomdardier a lot where I am in New York City - they make our
> > >subway cars.
>
> > Bombardier is one of the world's three biggest manufacturers of subway
> > cars, trams, locomotives and railway rolling stock (the others being
> > Siemens and Alstom)
>
> Bombardier makes just about every sort of conveyance known to man, not
> limited to: jets, boats, motorcycles (at various times), and ski-doos

The name implies that you can expect exploding objects to fall out of
them.

Bret