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On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:13:14 -0700, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.
com> wrote: >> I'm hoping we discover what "balance budget" and "paying off your >> debts by making some hard decisions" means. > >Psst - Obama has already talked about what he was going to do and it will >cost 3 TRILLION dollars more than the income from taxes. Have a great day. Hmmm... nearly matches the deficit that GWB has run up. >> We can't afford the trillion $, no limits, deficit spending of the >> neo-cons. It's bankrupting us. > >But you can afford the multi-trillion dollar deficits of a man who wrote in >his book: "I stand with the Muslims." For the record, I don't like Obama very much. As for Muslims, I have no issues with any group of people based on national origin, race, or religion. I do have a problem with terrorists. If Obama was standing with the terrorists, I'd have an issue with that. BTW - does it bother you when McCain and GWB stand with the Christians? Or are you a complete hypocrite as I expect? |
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"still just me" <wheeledBobNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:rg0954151rqbnv69p5mejs67f24bnomm00@4ax.com... > On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:13:14 -0700, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. > com> wrote: > >>> I'm hoping we discover what "balance budget" and "paying off your >>> debts by making some hard decisions" means. >> >>Psst - Obama has already talked about what he was going to do and it will >>cost 3 TRILLION dollars more than the income from taxes. Have a great day. > > Hmmm... nearly matches the deficit that GWB has run up. I'm not suggesting that Bush II has been a great President. In fact he's been so Liberal that we may not recover in my lifetime. But he did do the right thing invading Iraq in my opinion. Too bad he almost screwed the pooch after the great win. However, history will record that as a turning point in an area of the world that was about to go absolutely crazy drunk with oil power. >>> We can't afford the trillion $, no limits, deficit spending of the >>> neo-cons. It's bankrupting us. >> >>But you can afford the multi-trillion dollar deficits of a man who wrote >>in >>his book: "I stand with the Muslims." > > For the record, I don't like Obama very much. For the record I detest McCain. To tell you the truth I think that this country is in deep trouble no matter who gets elected this time. Imagine a wildly Liberal Congress and a Socialist almost to the point of Marxist Obama or a Super Liberal McCain? The only real disagreement those two have is in staying in Iraq for the long term or handing it over to the Muslim Extremists. > As for Muslims, I have no issues with any group of people based on > national origin, race, or religion. I do have a problem with > terrorists. If Obama was standing with the terrorists, I'd have an > issue with that. > > BTW - does it bother you when McCain and GWB stand with the > Christians? Or are you a complete hypocrite as I expect? Tell me - have the Christians murdered thousands of Muslims in the last couple of hundred years simply because they were Muslims? |
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:23:47 -0700, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.
com> wrote: >I'm not suggesting that Bush II has been a great President. In fact he's >been so Liberal that we may not recover in my lifetime. Liberal? He hasn't been a liberal. Neither is he a conservative. He's a puppet for the neo-cons who value dollars over country. The don't care much about principles, only dollars. >But he did do the >right thing invading Iraq in my opinion. Too bad he almost screwed the pooch >after the great win. However, history will record that as a turning point in >an area of the world that was about to go absolutely crazy drunk with oil >power. You're wrong. There was no Constitutional basis for it. As for the oil... it's helped out only the (new) vendors who now get to disperse the oil as opposed to the vendors Sadaam was working with or planning to work with. See a document from the Cheney Energy Policy secret meetings entitled "Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oil" for more information. >For the record I detest McCain. To tell you the truth I think that this >country is in deep trouble no matter who gets elected this time. Imagine a >wildly Liberal Congress and a Socialist almost to the point of Marxist Obama >or a Super Liberal McCain? The Democrats are apparently going to continue to nominate ideological fringe candidates and will never have a practical approach. The Republican party is now owned by the neo-cons who don't give two hoots about the country as long as they fill their pockets. >The only real disagreement those two have is in staying in Iraq for the long >term or handing it over to the Muslim Extremists. The extremists who were a danger to us weren't a problem until GWB went in. >Tell me - have the Christians murdered thousands of Muslims in the last >couple of hundred years simply because they were Muslims? Muslims haven't murdered Christians. Terrorists have murdered Christians. And Jews. And other Muslims. |
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"still just me" <wheeledBobNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cbcg54tcumf14j1tlc3178i402erpb6jr8@4ax.com... > On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:23:47 -0700, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. > com> wrote: > >>I'm not suggesting that Bush II has been a great President. In fact he's >>been so Liberal that we may not recover in my lifetime. > > Liberal? He hasn't been a liberal. Neither is he a conservative. He's > a puppet for the neo-cons who value dollars over country. The don't > care much about principles, only dollars. I suggest that fools should remain silent. How is it that in a country where nothing can be kept secret you're telling us that there are secrets? Man! What a dork. > As for the oil... it's helped out only the (new) vendors who now get > to disperse the oil as opposed to the vendors Sadaam was working with > or planning to work with. See a document from the Cheney Energy Policy > secret meetings entitled "Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oil" for more > information. Ahh, yes, the old "someone other than me is getting rich" excuse. I'm always amused at how much people like you know. > The Democrats are apparently going to continue to nominate ideological > fringe candidates and will never have a practical approach. The > Republican party is now owned by the neo-cons who don't give two hoots > about the country as long as they fill their pockets. And you believe that the Democrats are ideological idiots? I suggest you read your own writings sometime. >>The only real disagreement those two have is in staying in Iraq for the >>long >>term or handing it over to the Muslim Extremists. > > The extremists who were a danger to us weren't a problem until GWB > went in. Maybe you missed a couple of buildings in New York. >>Tell me - have the Christians murdered thousands of Muslims in the last >>couple of hundred years simply because they were Muslims? > > Muslims haven't murdered Christians. Terrorists have murdered > Christians. And Jews. And other Muslims. I hate to point this out to you but it wasn't "terrorists" but Muslim extremists. Maybe you believe that "terrorists" will commit suicide for their cause but the fact is that only real religious extremists are likely to do that. Most Muslims are no worse than anyone else but the fact remains that they themselves are frightened silly of the 10% extremist branch of their own religion. So frightened that they won't even mention it even when they know that these extremists are going to commit gross acts of sacrilege to their own religion. |
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:28:04 -0700, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.
com> wrote: >"still just me" <wheeledBobNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:cbcg54tcumf14j1tlc3178i402erpb6jr8@4ax.com... >> On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:23:47 -0700, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. >> com> wrote: >> >>>I'm not suggesting that Bush II has been a great President. In fact he's >>>been so Liberal that we may not recover in my lifetime. >> >> Liberal? He hasn't been a liberal. Neither is he a conservative. He's >> a puppet for the neo-cons who value dollars over country. The don't >> care much about principles, only dollars. > >I suggest that fools should remain silent. How is it that in a country where >nothing can be kept secret you're telling us that there are secrets? Man! >What a dork. Perhaps you trimmed too much there, but your response makes no sense as a follow on to the quoted text. There's nothing about "secrets" above. >> As for the oil... it's helped out only the (new) vendors who now get >> to disperse the oil as opposed to the vendors Sadaam was working with >> or planning to work with. See a document from the Cheney Energy Policy >> secret meetings entitled "Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oil" for more >> information. > >Ahh, yes, the old "someone other than me is getting rich" excuse. I'm always >amused at how much people like you know. I have no problem with people getting rich. I kind of enjoy the process myself. It gives me time to trifle with brainwashed fools like you in the newsgroups. I do have a problem with the perversion of the US Government and the Constitution and the spending of MY tax dollars for the personal enrichment of a chosen and influential few. That's fascism, not democracy. >> The Democrats are apparently going to continue to nominate ideological >> fringe candidates and will never have a practical approach. The >> Republican party is now owned by the neo-cons who don't give two hoots >> about the country as long as they fill their pockets. > >And you believe that the Democrats are ideological idiots? I suggest you >read your own writings sometime. Your head is so far up the butt of the neo-cons that you are incapable of even reasoning at this point. I support some very liberal ideas as well as some very conservative ideas. But, that runs counter to your brainwashing. you're the stereotypical case of "when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail". >>>The only real disagreement those two have is in staying in Iraq for the >>>long >>>term or handing it over to the Muslim Extremists. >> >> The extremists who were a danger to us weren't a problem until GWB >> went in. > >Maybe you missed a couple of buildings in New York. My statement was clearly a reference to Iraq. Perhaps you should re-read what YOU posted. The FACT is that there was no terrorist problem in Iraq until we invaded. Also, if you'd pull your head out of that neo-con butt you have it stuck in, you'll note that I strongly supported the invasion of Afghanistan and have repeatedly commended GWB for his ability to draw together an incredible international coalition. We were kicking terrorist butt and had the entire world mobilized against terrorists. It was the opportunity of the century. However, since I am not an brainwashed mouth piece for the neo-cons (like you) and incapable of rational consideration and thought (like you), I was still able to recognize that Iraq was a mistake from the time GWB started rattling his saber and has been the, or at least in the top three, biggest foreign policy blunders in history. >I hate to point this out to you but it wasn't "terrorists" but Muslim >extremists. Maybe you believe that "terrorists" will commit suicide for >their cause but the fact is that only real religious extremists are likely >to do that. You're playing foolish semantic games. >Most Muslims are no worse than anyone else but the fact remains that they >themselves are frightened silly of the 10% extremist branch of their own >religion. So frightened that they won't even mention it even when they know >that these extremists are going to commit gross acts of sacrilege to their >own religion. That still doesn't make discriminatory statements like your against all Muslims valid. The group that committed the largest act of terrorism on US soil before 911 was a radical bunch of Christians. That doesn't make all Christians terrorists. You're acting as a clear bigot when you discriminate against all Muslims in the way that you do. |
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