Before We See a Bike Friendly World

Amy Blankenship

"KingOfTheApes" <comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d671de99-38ad-4a35-9b73-6f32dac5dc3e@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> Hey, I don't feel like giving speeches here, but since I wrote it I
> may as well use it, no?

No.

Pat

On Jun 9, 10:51*am, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> We need to be aware of things that must happen in the psychological
> and physical world, namely "small is better" and traditional
> neighborhoods, aka "New Urbanism" or European style cities.
>
> So, we can wait for the world to notice us and open bike facilities
> for us, but before we must part with the mentality that bigger is
> better (SUVs) and that the sprawl is the ultimate solution to escape
> the urban jungle...
>
> I didn't want to talk about the monkey, but he knows all about
> cooperative living...
>
> What is a TND?
>
> The acronym TND stands for Traditional Neighborhood Development, a
> comprehensive planning system that includes a variety of housing types
> and land uses in a defined area. The variety of uses permits
> educational facilities, civic buildings and commercial establishments
> to be located within walking distance of private homes. A TND is
> served by a network of paths, streets and lanes suitable for
> pedestrians as well as vehicles. This provides residents the option of
> walking, biking or driving to places within their neighborhood.
> Present and future modes of transit are also considered during the
> planning stages.
>
> Public and private spaces have equal importance, creating a balanced
> community that serves a wide range of home and business owners. The
> inclusion of civic buildings and civic space -- in the form of plazas,
> greens, parks and squares -- enhances community identity and value.
>
> For more information about new urbanism, see the article Welcome to
> the New Urbanism.
>
> Hey, you can even check such neighborhoods near you and take a spin
> with your bike --which I plan to do.
>
> TND Neighborhoods by State and Country
>
> http://tndtownpaper.com/neighborhoods.htm
>
> WHY THE BANANA REVOLUTION?
> (reason #1000: because we need to live in bike friendly places)http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution

I read recently that "big oil" has been using people to infiltrate
newsgroups, blogs, and other internet-related "media" to convince
people that alternative energy is bad, unreliable, and environmentally
questionable so that we take it slow. In particular, they want to
disuade us from things like bikes and walking. They are using
marginally employed people and those of the fringes of society to do
this work.

So, ConandanteBanana, your gig is up. You've been exposed as a pawn
of the oil industry.

Your efforts to humiliate and embarass bicyclers is now shown for what
it's worth -- a feeble attempt to ridicule bicyclers with your absurd
statements and bizzare theories. You may have had a few people hold
bikers in distain because of your rantings, but now your motives are
clear, even that effect will wain because of your ties to big oil.

You are now, officially, the biggest sleeze I've ever seen. You're
disgusting.

KingOfTheApes

On Jun 17, 10:18*am, Pat <gro...@artisticphotography.us> wrote:
> On Jun 9, 10:51*am, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > We need to be aware of things that must happen in the psychological
> > and physical world, namely "small is better" and traditional
> > neighborhoods, aka "New Urbanism" or European style cities.
>
> > So, we can wait for the world to notice us and open bike facilities
> > for us, but before we must part with the mentality that bigger is
> > better (SUVs) and that the sprawl is the ultimate solution to escape
> > the urban jungle...
>
> > I didn't want to talk about the monkey, but he knows all about
> > cooperative living...
>
> > What is a TND?
>
> > The acronym TND stands for Traditional Neighborhood Development, a
> > comprehensive planning system that includes a variety of housing types
> > and land uses in a defined area. The variety of uses permits
> > educational facilities, civic buildings and commercial establishments
> > to be located within walking distance of private homes. A TND is
> > served by a network of paths, streets and lanes suitable for
> > pedestrians as well as vehicles. This provides residents the option of
> > walking, biking or driving to places within their neighborhood.
> > Present and future modes of transit are also considered during the
> > planning stages.
>
> > Public and private spaces have equal importance, creating a balanced
> > community that serves a wide range of home and business owners. The
> > inclusion of civic buildings and civic space -- in the form of plazas,
> > greens, parks and squares -- enhances community identity and value.
>
> > For more information about new urbanism, see the article Welcome to
> > the New Urbanism.
>
> > Hey, you can even check such neighborhoods near you and take a spin
> > with your bike --which I plan to do.
>
> > TND Neighborhoods by State and Country
>
> >http://tndtownpaper.com/neighborhoods.htm
>
> > WHY THE BANANA REVOLUTION?
> > (reason #1000: because we need to live in bike friendly places)http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution
>
> I read recently that "big oil" has been using people to infiltrate
> newsgroups, blogs, and other internet-related "media" to convince
> people that alternative energy is bad, unreliable, and environmentally
> questionable so that we take it slow. *In particular, they want to
> disuade us from things like bikes and walking. *They are using
> marginally employed people and those of the fringes of society to do
> this work.
>
> So, ConandanteBanana, your gig is up. *You've been exposed as a pawn
> of the oil industry.
>
> Your efforts to humiliate and embarass bicyclers is now shown for what
> it's worth -- a feeble attempt to ridicule bicyclers with your absurd
> statements and bizzare theories. *You may have had a few people hold
> bikers in distain because of your rantings, but now your motives are
> clear, even that effect will wain because of your ties to big oil.
>
> You are now, officially, the biggest sleeze I've ever seen. *You're
> disgusting.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hey Pat, you've got the lowest IQ I've seen in a long while. Well, you
are a city planner who lives in the boondocks because you hate the
city. Or so you said.

Well, you can't be #1 in the stupid rating only because we have a
president --and the people who voted for him-- who decided that
launching a war over oil was a better idea than developing alternative
transportation and bikes.

Pat

I read recently that "big oil" has been using people to infiltrate
newsgroups, blogs, and other internet-related "media" to convince
people that alternative energy is bad, unreliable, and environmentally
questionable so that we take it slow. In particular, they want to
disuade us from things like bikes and walking. They are using
marginally employed people and those of the fringes of society to do
this work.

So, ConandanteBanana, your gig is up. You've been exposed as a pawn
of the oil industry.

Your efforts to humiliate and embarass bicyclers is now shown for what
it's worth -- a feeble attempt to ridicule bicyclers with your absurd
statements and bizzare theories. You may have had a few people hold
bikers in distain because of your rantings, but now your motives are
clear, even that effect will wain because of your ties to big oil.

You are now, officially, the biggest sleeze I've ever seen. You're
disgusting.

Ok. I agree. Now please stop reposting his drivel. Most of us have killfiled
him a long time ago.

Pat in TX

Roger Zoul

"Pat" <extex@tmail.com> wrote

> Ok. I agree. Now please stop reposting his drivel. Most of us have
> killfiled him a long time ago.
>
> Pat in TX

I'm confused. Are there two "Pat" posters hanging out in this newsgroup?

KingOfTheApes

On Jun 17, 4:56*pm, "Roger Zoul" <rogerzo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Pat" <ex...@tmail.com> wrote
>
> > Ok. I agree. Now please stop reposting his drivel. Most of us have
> > killfiled him a long time ago.
>
> > Pat in TX
>
> I'm confused. *Are there two "Pat" posters hanging out in this newsgroup?

There's a Pat that's from upstate NY. That's an asshole. The other
one, from Texas, too!

Bill Sornson

Roger Zoul wrote:
> "Pat" <extex@tmail.com> wrote
>
>> Ok. I agree. Now please stop reposting his drivel. Most of us have
>> killfiled him a long time ago.
>>
>> Pat in TX
>
> I'm confused. Are there two "Pat" posters hanging out in this
> newsgroup?

Yes.

Pat

>
>> Ok. I agree. Now please stop reposting his drivel. Most of us have
>> killfiled him a long time ago.
>>
>> Pat in TX
>
> I'm confused. Are there two "Pat" posters hanging out in this newsgroup?

There's only one in Texas, dude! That other guy is posting from Gowanda, New
York. (is that a real town?)

Pat in TX
>
>

Paul O

Pat wrote, On 6/17/2008 6:37 PM:
>>> Ok. I agree. Now please stop reposting his drivel. Most of us have
>>> killfiled him a long time ago.
>>>
>>> Pat in TX
>>>
>> I'm confused. Are there two "Pat" posters hanging out in this newsgroup?
>>
>
> There's only one in Texas, dude! That other guy is posting from Gowanda, New
> York. (is that a real town?)
>
> Pat in TX
>
>>
>
>
>
Apparently yes. Gowanda is the proud home of the Gowanda Correctional
Facility.

Thank you Wikipedia for giving me some more information that I didn't
need to know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gowanda,_New_York

--

Paul D Oosterhout
I work for SAIC (but I don't speak for SAIC)

Just zis Guy, you know?

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:18:19 -0700 (PDT), Pat
<groups@artisticphotography.us> said in
<1c2c0f39-b65d-46cc-a046-c666668f06ff@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>:

>I read recently that "big oil" has been using people to infiltrate
>newsgroups, blogs, and other internet-related "media" to convince
>people that alternative energy is bad, unreliable, and environmentally
>questionable so that we take it slow.

You mean astroturfing? Old news.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

jp1138

On 17 juin, 14:18, Pat <gro...@artisticphotography.us> wrote:

> I read recently that "big oil" has been using people to infiltrate
> newsgroups, blogs, and other internet-related "media" to convince
> people that alternative energy is bad, unreliable, and environmentally
> questionable so that we take it slow. In particular, they want to
> disuade us from things like bikes and walking. They are using
> marginally employed people and those of the fringes of society to do
> this work.
>
> So, ConandanteBanana, your gig is up. You've been exposed as a pawn
> of the oil industry.
>
> Your efforts to humiliate and embarass bicyclers is now shown for what
> it's worth -- a feeble attempt to ridicule bicyclers with your absurd
> statements and bizzare theories. You may have had a few people hold
> bikers in distain because of your rantings, but now your motives are
> clear, even that effect will wain because of your ties to big oil.
>
> You are now, officially, the biggest sleeze I've ever seen. You're
> disgusting.

Do you mind that I agree with you ? Like probably many others.

Yet, I wonder how many people read this newsgroup? Is it worth the
time, even for a trillion $ turnover company/cartel?

No doubt that there are opinion makers at work. Though here?

If they exist, they must all use the same methods -learnt at the same
course- this should help us to recognize them!

The best answer is to be more what they want us not to be: 'disgust
them harder than they try to disgust us '

We are enthusiastic, we should win!

Welcome aboard,

Sholly