TUFO Tires - Pros & Cons ???

Tom Kunich

"Kevin Metcalfe" <nslckevin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:45c2ed46-8473-4c4e-b14e-a025e7372786@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> The only ones that are in the ball park are approximately half the
> weight of the tires they are compared against. So, half the weight,
> certainly at least some decrease in reliability, only to get
> comparable rolling resistance. Make sure you've got wheels in the
> pit...

For those not in the know - Kevin is an ex-pro and also very high on the
knowledge index.

Howard Kveck

In article <45c2ed46-8473-4c4e-b14e-a025e7372786@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Kevin Metcalfe <nslckevin@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jun 9, 2:07 pm, "Maple Tree" <n...@none.com> wrote:
> > > Maple Tree wrote:
> > >> Hello,
> >
> > >> What are the Pros & Cons for TUFO Road Tires?
> >
> > >>http://www.tufonorthamerica.com/tir...php?seriesid=33
> >
> > >> Thanks
> > "Kevin Metcalfe" <nslcke...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:18e4d0ff-6594-4b4a-abba-d6ca7d74bb06@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > Cons: Crappy rolling resistance for the most part.
> >
> > >http://www.biketechreview.com/tires/AFM_tire_crr.htm
> >
> > > Kevin
> >
> > Depends on the TUFO tire make and they seems competitive compared to the
> > others.
>
> The only ones that are in the ball park are approximately half the
> weight of the tires they are compared against. So, half the weight,
> certainly at least some decrease in reliability, only to get
> comparable rolling resistance. Make sure you've got wheels in the
> pit...

Pit? Wha???

--
tanx,
Howard

The bloody pubs are bloody dull
The bloody clubs are bloody full
Of bloody girls and bloody guys
With bloody murder in their eyes

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Kevin Metcalfe

On Jun 9, 6:45 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
> In article <45c2ed46-8473-4c4e-b14e-a025e7372...@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> Kevin Metcalfe <nslcke...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 9, 2:07 pm, "Maple Tree" <n...@none.com> wrote:
> > > > Maple Tree wrote:
> > > >> Hello,
>
> > > >> What are the Pros & Cons for TUFO Road Tires?
>
> > > >>http://www.tufonorthamerica.com/tir...php?seriesid=33
>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > "Kevin Metcalfe" <nslcke...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:18e4d0ff-6594-4b4a-abba-d6ca7d74bb06@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > Cons: Crappy rolling resistance for the most part.
>
> > > >http://www.biketechreview.com/tires/AFM_tire_crr.htm
>
> > > > Kevin
>
> > > Depends on the TUFO tire make and they seems competitive compared to the
> > > others.
>
> > The only ones that are in the ball park are approximately half the
> > weight of the tires they are compared against. So, half the weight,
> > certainly at least some decrease in reliability, only to get
> > comparable rolling resistance. Make sure you've got wheels in the
> > pit...
>
> Pit? Wha???
>

I figured that since this was rec.bicycles.RACING that most people
would have knowledge of an event called a CRITERIUM which is in fact a
bicycle RACE. Said race, is known for having a repository for spare
wheels, often times called a wheel PIT. It's hard to confirm, but
reports are that RACERS have been know to actually put their spare
wheels in the PIT so that when they get a puncture (also called a flat
tire) in said criterium, they can proceed to the PIT (don't reverse
course though, except at Sommerville...). Once in the PIT, these
bicycle RACERS have been known to trade the flat, or punctured tire in
for one that is still holding air and rejoin the race with no penalty.

I hope that helps.

Kevin (who was never actually a pro, just a relatively okay regional
racer, but who is now a masters fattie) Metcalfe

Kurgan Gringioni

On Jun 9, 6:43*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Kevin Metcalfe" <nslcke...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:45c2ed46-8473-4c4e-b14e-a025e7372786@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > The only ones that are in the ball park are approximately half the
> > weight of the tires they are compared against. *So, half the weight,
> > certainly at least some decrease in reliability, only to get
> > comparable rolling resistance. *Make sure you've got wheels in the
> > pit...
>
> For those not in the know - Kevin is an ex-pro and also very high on the
> knowledge index.




Dumbass -


There's no way he knows as much as a bike racing expert like yourself.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Howard Kveck

In article <b888544f-db72-4dd3-aaed-6c5912088f46@i36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Kevin Metcalfe <nslckevin@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jun 9, 6:45 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <45c2ed46-8473-4c4e-b14e-a025e7372...@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> > Kevin Metcalfe <nslcke...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 9, 2:07 pm, "Maple Tree" <n...@none.com> wrote:
> > > > > Maple Tree wrote:
> > > > >> Hello,
> >
> > > > >> What are the Pros & Cons for TUFO Road Tires?
> >
> > > > >>http://www.tufonorthamerica.com/tir...php?seriesid=33
> >
> > > > >> Thanks
> > > > "Kevin Metcalfe" <nslcke...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > > >news:18e4d0ff-6594-4b4a-abba-d6ca7d74bb06@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > > > Cons: Crappy rolling resistance for the most part.
> >
> > > > >http://www.biketechreview.com/tires/AFM_tire_crr.htm
> >
> > > > > Kevin
> >
> > > > Depends on the TUFO tire make and they seems competitive compared to
> > > > the
> > > > others.
> >
> > > The only ones that are in the ball park are approximately half the
> > > weight of the tires they are compared against. So, half the weight,
> > > certainly at least some decrease in reliability, only to get
> > > comparable rolling resistance. Make sure you've got wheels in the
> > > pit...
> >
> > Pit? Wha???
> >
>
> I figured that since this was rec.bicycles.RACING that most people
> would have knowledge of an event called a CRITERIUM which is in fact a
> bicycle RACE. Said race, is known for having a repository for spare
> wheels, often times called a wheel PIT. It's hard to confirm, but
> reports are that RACERS have been know to actually put their spare
> wheels in the PIT so that when they get a puncture (also called a flat
> tire) in said criterium, they can proceed to the PIT (don't reverse
> course though, except at Sommerville...). Once in the PIT, these
> bicycle RACERS have been known to trade the flat, or punctured tire in
> for one that is still holding air and rejoin the race with no penalty.
>
> I hope that helps.

It should help Mrs. Butterworth, the OP. I was kidding (and should have been a bit
more explicit about it), as a few days ago he spent some time talking about how he
needed his bike to be very light (while finding a way to pack a spare tire onboard)
and finally revealing himself to be a recreational rider. While there's nothing wrong
with being a recreational rider (I are one too), he persists in crossposting these
things into RBR.

By the way, I remember seeing you race out at Hellyer many times back in the '90s.
Do you still get out there much?

--
tanx,
Howard

The bloody pubs are bloody dull
The bloody clubs are bloody full
Of bloody girls and bloody guys
With bloody murder in their eyes

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Howard Kveck

In article <00ce815e-0820-4dc5-8f98-1bc654d7e4d1@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
Kurgan Gringioni <kgringioni@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Jun 9, 6:43*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> > "Kevin Metcalfe" <nslcke...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:45c2ed46-8473-4c4e-b14e-a025e7372786@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > > The only ones that are in the ball park are approximately half the
> > > weight of the tires they are compared against. *So, half the weight,
> > > certainly at least some decrease in reliability, only to get
> > > comparable rolling resistance. *Make sure you've got wheels in the
> > > pit...
> >
> > For those not in the know - Kevin is an ex-pro and also very high on the
> > knowledge index.
>
>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
>
> There's no way he knows as much as a bike racing expert like yourself.

Don't sell Tom short - he's an expert in *all* fields.

--
tanx,
Howard

The bloody pubs are bloody dull
The bloody clubs are bloody full
Of bloody girls and bloody guys
With bloody murder in their eyes

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Tom Kunich

"Kevin Metcalfe" <nslckevin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b888544f-db72-4dd3-aaed-6c5912088f46@i36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> Kevin (who was never actually a pro, just a relatively okay regional
> racer, but who is now a masters fattie) Metcalfe

You'll excuse me Kevin, I mistook the US Postal uniform....

Kerry Montgomery

"Kevin Metcalfe" <nslckevin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b888544f-db72-4dd3-aaed-6c5912088f46@i36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 9, 6:45 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
>> In article
>> <45c2ed46-8473-4c4e-b14e-a025e7372...@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
>> Kevin Metcalfe <nslcke...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 9, 2:07 pm, "Maple Tree" <n...@none.com> wrote:
>> > > > Maple Tree wrote:
>> > > >> Hello,
>>
>> > > >> What are the Pros & Cons for TUFO Road Tires?
>>
>> > > >>http://www.tufonorthamerica.com/tir...php?seriesid=33
>>
>> > > >> Thanks
>> > > "Kevin Metcalfe" <nslcke...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > >news:18e4d0ff-6594-4b4a-abba-d6ca7d74bb06@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > > > Cons: Crappy rolling resistance for the most part.
>>
>> > > >http://www.biketechreview.com/tires/AFM_tire_crr.htm
>>
>> > > > Kevin
>>
>> > > Depends on the TUFO tire make and they seems competitive compared to
>> > > the
>> > > others.
>>
>> > The only ones that are in the ball park are approximately half the
>> > weight of the tires they are compared against. So, half the weight,
>> > certainly at least some decrease in reliability, only to get
>> > comparable rolling resistance. Make sure you've got wheels in the
>> > pit...
>>
>> Pit? Wha???
>>
>
> I figured that since this was rec.bicycles.RACING that most people
> would have knowledge of an event called a CRITERIUM which is in fact a
> bicycle RACE. Said race, is known for having a repository for spare
> wheels, often times called a wheel PIT. It's hard to confirm, but
> reports are that RACERS have been know to actually put their spare
> wheels in the PIT so that when they get a puncture (also called a flat
> tire) in said criterium, they can proceed to the PIT (don't reverse
> course though, except at Sommerville...). Once in the PIT, these
> bicycle RACERS have been known to trade the flat, or punctured tire in
> for one that is still holding air and rejoin the race with no penalty.
>
> I hope that helps.
>
> Kevin (who was never actually a pro, just a relatively okay regional
> racer, but who is now a masters fattie) Metcalfe

Kevin,
This thread is being cross-posted to rec.bicycles.tech, which has some
contributors who are not racers or even RACERS.
Kerry

Kevin Metcalfe

On Jun 9, 8:49 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
> In article <b888544f-db72-4dd3-aaed-6c5912088...@i36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> Kevin Metcalfe <nslcke...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 9, 6:45 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <45c2ed46-8473-4c4e-b14e-a025e7372...@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> > > Kevin Metcalfe <nslcke...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jun 9, 2:07 pm, "Maple Tree" <n...@none.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Maple Tree wrote:
> > > > > >> Hello,
>
> > > > > >> What are the Pros & Cons for TUFO Road Tires?
>
> > > > > >>http://www.tufonorthamerica.com/tir...php?seriesid=33
>
> > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > "Kevin Metcalfe" <nslcke...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:18e4d0ff-6594-4b4a-abba-d6ca7d74bb06@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > > > Cons: Crappy rolling resistance for the most part.
>
> > > > > >http://www.biketechreview.com/tires/AFM_tire_crr.htm
>
> > > > > > Kevin
>
> > > > > Depends on the TUFO tire make and they seems competitive compared to
> > > > > the
> > > > > others.
>
> > > > The only ones that are in the ball park are approximately half the
> > > > weight of the tires they are compared against. So, half the weight,
> > > > certainly at least some decrease in reliability, only to get
> > > > comparable rolling resistance. Make sure you've got wheels in the
> > > > pit...
>
> > > Pit? Wha???
>
> > I figured that since this was rec.bicycles.RACING that most people
> > would have knowledge of an event called a CRITERIUM which is in fact a
> > bicycle RACE. Said race, is known for having a repository for spare
> > wheels, often times called a wheel PIT. It's hard to confirm, but
> > reports are that RACERS have been know to actually put their spare
> > wheels in the PIT so that when they get a puncture (also called a flat
> > tire) in said criterium, they can proceed to the PIT (don't reverse
> > course though, except at Sommerville...). Once in the PIT, these
> > bicycle RACERS have been known to trade the flat, or punctured tire in
> > for one that is still holding air and rejoin the race with no penalty.
>
> > I hope that helps.
>
> It should help Mrs. Butterworth, the OP. I was kidding (and should have been a bit
> more explicit about it), as a few days ago he spent some time talking about how he
> needed his bike to be very light (while finding a way to pack a spare tire onboard)
> and finally revealing himself to be a recreational rider. While there's nothing wrong
> with being a recreational rider (I are one too), he persists in crossposting these
> things into RBR.
>
> By the way, I remember seeing you race out at Hellyer many times back in the '90s.
> Do you still get out there much?
>

I haven't raced on the track in about six or seven years. With geezer
track nationals at Hellyer this year I am planning to get back on the
track. Though I will need to procure a track bike some time between
now and then...

Do they still turn left on the track? :-)

Kevin (don't forget to pedal) Metcalfe

Donald Munro

Kevin Metcalfe wrote:
> Do they still turn left on the track? :-)

Accelerating in the corners is not allowed.