HELP: Where To Put Spare Tire

!Jones

On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:02:07 -0500, in rec.bicycles.tech Tim McNamara
<timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:

>If you really want to carry lots of stuff, get a saddlebag that's big
>enough:

http://seguro.coppel.com/coppel/inf...p?codigo=516783

I can carry *three* extra parts for *everything*, my repair stand, and
all of my tools... and my electric generator and air compressor to
boot!

And a parachute in case I'm in a high-rise building...

And SCUBA gear in case I fall into the water...

Jones... well prepared for *anything*!

carlfogel@comcast.net

On Jun 7, 12:04*pm, "Maple Tree" <n...@none.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am riding a TREK Madone 5.2, full carbon fibre bike. *I keep two spare
> tubes and tools inside my saddle bag, it is now full.
>
> Where on my bike should I keep a spare tire in case one breaks, I have seen
> it happen to fellow riders. *Maybe I can strap one on to the back Stays
> above the rear tire ?
>
> I am wide open to suggestions.
>
> Thank you

Dear M,

I see a lot of replies about how you don't need a spare tire, just a
tire boot, which should handle any problem.

A boot can fix some things, but . . .

I carry a spare Kevlar-bead tire rolled up in my seat bag (the four
spare tubes are in my frame triangle bag).

I was delighted to have that spare tire handy when my rear tire crept
off the rim because I dragged my rear brake at low speed down a long
hill:

http://i18.tinypic.com/4t9hswg.jpg

I had stopped and was reaching for the presta valve when the tire blew
and the Slime decorated my leg. The friend I was waiting for arrived a
minute later and took the picture.

Here are the blown-out tire and tube, with a loop of tube stuck
between the destroyed casing and the exposed Kevlar bead:

http://i19.tinypic.com/53r4dp0.jpg

The spoke just propped things up for the picture. I doubt that a boot
would fixed things, so the spare tire was nice to have when I was two
miles from the nearest shade on a hot summer day.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

John Forrest Tomlinson

On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:02:07 -0500, Tim McNamara
<timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:

> I've had to boot a few with a dollar bill, PowerBar wrapper or
>a Park boot.

Yeah, once for me I think. And once for a friend with a money bill.

Fred Fredburger

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:04:55 -0400, "Maple Tree" <none@none.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am riding a TREK Madone 5.2, full carbon fibre bike. I keep two spare
>> tubes and tools inside my saddle bag, it is now full.
>>
>> Where on my bike should I keep a spare tire in case one breaks, I have seen
>> it happen to fellow riders. Maybe I can strap one on to the back Stays
>> above the rear tire ?
>
> Put it the same place you keep your spare saddle, seatpost, chain and
> brake pads.

Don't forget to bring a spare rider. Just in case you get tired.

John Forrest Tomlinson

On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:23:45 -0700 (PDT), carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:

>Here are the blown-out tire and tube, with a loop of tube stuck
>between the destroyed casing and the exposed Kevlar bead:
>
> http://i19.tinypic.com/53r4dp0.jpg

Dude,

If I show you a picture of a pair of handelbars damaged on a ride,
does that mean you'll carry a spare set of bars

Cheers

carlfogel@comcast.net

On Jun 7, 4:02*pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:23:45 -0700 (PDT), carlfo...@comcast.net wrote:
> >Here are the blown-out tire and tube, with a loop of tube stuck
> >between the destroyed casing and the exposed Kevlar bead:
>
> >http://i19.tinypic.com/53r4dp0.jpg
>
> Dude,
>
> If I show you a picture of a pair of handlebars damaged on a ride,
> does that mean you'll carry a spare set of bars
>
> Cheers

Dear John,

Nope.

I can easily replace a ruined tire and tube in a few minutes by the
side of the road with a pump and my bare hands.

I fix flats so often that I carry four spare tubes and a small Park
glueless patch kit. I've only had to use the patch kit once, but it
was worth having because it saved me a six mile walk.

I've used my spare tire several times. It's easy to use.

Replacing a handlebar with brakes and shifters would be much more
trouble than fixing a flat tire.

Besides, the spare tire rolls up and fits nicely in the seat bag just
visible on the upper right:

http://i18.tinypic.com/4t9hswg.jpg

Where do you plan to carry a spare handlebar?

:-)

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

John Forrest Tomlinson

On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:30:13 -0700 (PDT), carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:

>I fix flats so often that I carry four spare tubes and a small Park
>glueless patch kit.

That sucks.

bjw@mambo.ucolick.org

On Jun 7, 11:04*am, "Maple Tree" <n...@none.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am riding a TREK Madone 5.2, full carbon fibre bike. *I keep two spare
> tubes and tools inside my saddle bag, it is now full.
>
> Where on my bike should I keep a spare tire in case one breaks, I have seen
> it happen to fellow riders. *Maybe I can strap one on to the back Stays
> above the rear tire ?
>
> I am wide open to suggestions.
>

Ignore all these insensitive people who don't
understand the needs of serious Madone riders
such as yourself.

You can carry a folded spare tire under the seat bag
or in the second bottle cage if you don't have two
bottles. Lots of people don't get the folding trick.
You can fold it so as to both place the glued sides
against each other and make a nice squared-off
bundle. It's easier to show than do, so here is a
picture:
http://www.ucolick.org/~bjw/misc/rbt/tirefold.jpg
This is an old cyclocross tire, a road tire would fold
up smaller.

Then you use a toe strap to secure it under the
seat bag or in the bottle cage. Of course, for
maximum style, use a leather toe strap. Nylon
ones are gauche.

Ben

P.S. You ride sewups, right? And have toe straps?

Howard Kveck

In article <ysrxej79roeg.fsf@ruuvi.it.helsinki.fi>,
oronkain@ling.helsinki.fi (A R:nen) wrote:

> "Maple Tree" <none@none.com> writes:
>
> > Where on my bike should I keep a spare tire in case one breaks, I have seen
> > it happen to fellow riders.
>
> Around the waist as per UCI regulations for Masters Fatties.

Those regs also spec that MFs must wear their bibs outside the shirt.

--
tanx,
Howard

The bloody pubs are bloody dull
The bloody clubs are bloody full
Of bloody girls and bloody guys
With bloody murder in their eyes

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Howard Kveck

In article <ncC2k.8049$Ri.3778@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com>,
Bob Schwartz <bob.schwartz@sbcREMOVE.global.net> wrote:

> I carry a single tube and a patch kit.
> For tire repair I carry a section of
> tubular casing and a hunk of... duct
> tape. I've never run over anything that
> damaged a tire beyond booting with one
> of those two.

The tubular casing works great as a boot but I've also used a folded dollar bill.
The duct tape idea is a good one too.

--
tanx,
Howard

The bloody pubs are bloody dull
The bloody clubs are bloody full
Of bloody girls and bloody guys
With bloody murder in their eyes

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Maple Tree

<bjw@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote in message
news:99e2f84e-bb33-4c10-a55f-34e589cb0615@i36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 7, 11:04 am, "Maple Tree" <n...@none.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am riding a TREK Madone 5.2, full carbon fibre bike. I keep two spare
> tubes and tools inside my saddle bag, it is now full.
>
> Where on my bike should I keep a spare tire in case one breaks, I have
> seen
> it happen to fellow riders. Maybe I can strap one on to the back Stays
> above the rear tire ?
>
> I am wide open to suggestions.
>

Ignore all these insensitive people who don't
understand the needs of serious Madone riders
such as yourself.

You can carry a folded spare tire under the seat bag
or in the second bottle cage if you don't have two
bottles. Lots of people don't get the folding trick.
You can fold it so as to both place the glued sides
against each other and make a nice squared-off
bundle. It's easier to show than do, so here is a
picture:
http://www.ucolick.org/~bjw/misc/rbt/tirefold.jpg
This is an old cyclocross tire, a road tire would fold
up smaller.

Then you use a toe strap to secure it under the
seat bag or in the bottle cage. Of course, for
maximum style, use a leather toe strap. Nylon
ones are gauche.

Ben

P.S. You ride sewups, right? And have toe straps?

clipless, I started cycling in 1990, toe straps were on their way out then.
I will have to take a look at my saddle and see if I can tuck a spare tire
under it. I hadn't considered that.

Maple Tree

"Bob Schwartz" <bob.schwartz@sbcREMOVE.global.net> wrote in message
news:rkC2k.8051$Ri.6827@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
> John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:50:34 -0500, "BobT"
>> <RobertLeeTaylorCUT@THISSuddenLink.net> wrote:
>>> Buy why? You have a bike with a retail price of nearly $4,000 will all
>>> kinds of compromises to make it extremely light for full out racing. It
>>> you want to keep with the philosophy of your bike's design (carbon
>>> fiber, non-standard seat post, ultra-light wheels, ultra-light racing
>>> tires etc. get rid of the tubes, carry only a patch kit, a single CO2
>>> cartridge, and a minimalist tool kit (or maybe no tools).
>>
>> Not quite. Typically, serious racers have a pump, a couple tire irons
>> and a couple tubes for long training rides. Little or no tools.
>
> If you are riding with a group someone will have a pump. Let
> some other sucker weigh down their bike with a pump while
> you groove on the ultra light weight of your Madone.
>
> If you are riding by yourself your tool kit should be a cell
> phone so you can call your girlfriend to come get you.
>
> If you people can't be serious don't even bother responding.
>
> Bob Schwartz

Unfortunately, there is a lot of junvenile minds on this ng

Tom Kunich

"Maple Tree" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:vY2dnTen7v7Oh9bVnZ2dnUVZ_t_inZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> Unfortunately, there is a lot of junvenile minds on this ng

Your question is a bit juvenile don't you think? You can't figure out where
to put a spare tire on your bicycle? I've been back riding for 25 years and
I've needed a tire once. And I was within a block of a bike shop about to
open. And I put in more than 5,000 miles a year.

If you are that nervous about a spare tire I would have thought that you'd
already have figured out a couple of ways: a) you carry it in your center
back pocket like the sewup people do. b) You tape it between the seat rails
and above the seat pack. c) You put it inside a dummy water bottle in the
second water bottle mount. Is this rocket science?

Mark

Howard Kveck wrote:
> In article <ncC2k.8049$Ri.3778@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com>,
> Bob Schwartz <bob.schwartz@sbcREMOVE.global.net> wrote:
>
>> I carry a single tube and a patch kit.
>> For tire repair I carry a section of
>> tubular casing and a hunk of... duct
>> tape. I've never run over anything that
>> damaged a tire beyond booting with one
>> of those two.
>
> The tubular casing works great as a boot but I've also used a folded dollar bill.
> The duct tape idea is a good one too.

I've used the dollar successfully /and/ not-so-successfully. On my most
recent try, the tube punched through four layers, with only about a
3-5mm slit in the tire casing. I wonder if the latest currency is using
more fragile paper.

Clif bar wrappers, however, are nearly indestructible. I keep an
/empty/ one in my seat bag at all times.

Mark J.