IT GOES TO ELEVEN !

John Forrest Tomlinson

On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:26:16 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <rgag44lh09rnta905cqld1kpmh64ivb0bh@4ax.com>,
> John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:03:42 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
>> <i_am_cycle_pathic@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>
>> >11 teeth to 26
>> >teeth in one-tooth increments?
>>
>> For me, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 19, 21, 23, 25, 28 would be
>> desirable. Closer than that would have no value.
>
>JT: don't throw out your old stuff. I'll be happy to recycle it for you.

I still use my 9-speed stuff a lot.

But if you're interested in used 8-speed cassettes or used and new
9-speed cassettes (the 9 only in 12-23) I'll send you a list in a
month or two -- I'm moving and doing an inventory. The new stuff I
want to sell. The used will go for shipping only.

Ryan Cousineau

In article <4848d9fd$0$14349$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,
Derk <nobody@invalid.org> wrote:

> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>
> > Yeah, but we didn't believe you .
> I hoped I was wrong too. This is something we just don't need. I'd be very
> happy with a Centaur gruppo with 100% aluminium parts and the old type
> shifters that let you decide how many gears you want to shift up or down.
>
> > I don't know what to say, except that when you mentioned it, I said it
> > sounded pretty stupid. James Huang is usually pretty reliable on this
> > sort of stuff
> Isn't that the guy who's always very excited about every new product?

I have previously mocked Cycling News here for rating products on a
scale of 4 to 5, and of course lots of the daily tech news is (as with
almost any daily-tech site out there, bike or not) lightly edited
new-product press releases (look for phrases like "is said to be..."
when he stops believing the marketing).

However, his peloton reports are a rich and nutritious broth of
un-badged prototypes, non-production features, and outright sponsor
cheating. It's the most comprehensive look at pro bikes and future bits
that I've found online, at least in English.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Frank Krygowski

On Jun 5, 1:40 am, shayana.kadi...@gmail.com wrote:
> WHY ISN'T THE ONLY THING BEING DISCUSSED ON THIS BOARD THE TOTALLY
> UNCONFIRMED RUMORS OF IMPENDING CAMPY 11 SPEED???!!!
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php...2008/news/06-04

And, as Dave Barry would say:

Shimano engineers, meeting in an emergency design conference, said
"Quick - what comes after 11?"


- Frank Krygowski

Qui si parla Campagnolo

On Jun 5, 8:25*pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <48478307$0$14352$e4fe5...@news.xs4all.nl>,
>
> *Derk <nob...@invalid.org> wrote:
> > shayana.kadi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > WHY ISN'T THE ONLY THING BEING DISCUSSED ON THIS BOARD THE TOTALLY
> > > UNCONFIRMED RUMORS OF IMPENDING CAMPY 11 SPEED???!!!
> > Old news: I brought it 17/05/08 to this newsgroup already:
>
> > "New Campa Record and Chorus 11 speed"
>
> > Derk
>
> Yeah, but we didn't believe you .
>
> I don't know what to say, except that when you mentioned it, I said it
> sounded pretty stupid. James Huang is usually pretty reliable on this
> sort of stuff, so I accept that there's a high chance this is really
> going to happen.
>
> It's still stupid. On the other hand, I am a nine-speed retrogrouch, and
> can only suppose that the 8-speed retrogrouches are pointing at me and
> saying "A BRIDGE TOO FAR!"

Piker. If the stuff is less that 2 decades old, shifters click and the
cogs come off but the body stays on, you are not any self respecting
'retrogrouch'.
>
> Jobst is famously a 6-speed (or was it 7?) retrogrouch, and somehow in
> an era of drivetrains that go to 11, his position seems more sensible,
> not less.
>
> Eagerly awaiting the production quad-ring drivetrain,
>
> --
> Ryan Cousineau rcous...@gmail.comhttp://www.wiredcola.com/
> "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
> "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

smokey

On Jun 4, 10:40*pm, shayana.kadi...@gmail.com wrote:
> WHY ISN'T THE ONLY THING BEING DISCUSSED ON THIS BOARD THE TOTALLY
> UNCONFIRMED RUMORS OF IMPENDING CAMPY 11 SPEED???!!!
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php...2008/news/06-04
>
> (Seriously, though, it can't be true, right? Nothing they put into
> production hasn't first been tested thru the pro ranks for a while,
> no? Didn't the first ten speeds appear in the pro peloton a few months
> before they were introduced for consumers, or am I misremembering
> that?)

Seems to me that things are getting a little ridiculous. I'm still on
8-speed and find it more than adequate for my needs. I read somewhere
that Shimano had a 12 speed cassette on the drawing boards. Where will
it all end?

Smokey

Hank

On Jun 12, 12:51*pm, smokey <smokeystrodt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 4, 10:40*pm, shayana.kadi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > WHY ISN'T THE ONLY THING BEING DISCUSSED ON THIS BOARD THE TOTALLY
> > UNCONFIRMED RUMORS OF IMPENDING CAMPY 11 SPEED???!!!
>
> >http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php...2008/news/06-04
>
> > (Seriously, though, it can't be true, right? Nothing they put into
> > production hasn't first been tested thru the pro ranks for a while,
> > no? Didn't the first ten speeds appear in the pro peloton a few months
> > before they were introduced for consumers, or am I misremembering
> > that?)
>
> Seems to me that things are getting a little ridiculous. I'm still on
> 8-speed and find it more than adequate for my needs. I read somewhere
> that Shimano had a 12 speed cassette on the drawing boards. Where will
> it all end?
>
> Smokey

They got a patent on a 14-speed system probably 5 or 6 years ago.
Doesn't mean it will ever get made in that form.