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Is the bike an improvement on God's design?

 
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Old 05-06.-2008, 03:13 AM   #31
ComandanteBanana
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On Jun 3, 5:44*pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> In article <F6d1k.10063$vP5.7...@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
> *"Amy Blankenship" <Amy_nos...@magnoliamultimedia.com> wrote:
>
> > "ComandanteBanana" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:852a5836-8179-47de-9072-f05081320a7d@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com.
> > ..
> > > (I'm using some metaphoric language here, just like the Christians
> > > use Adam and Eve, just that the terminology is Teflon and cast
> > > iron.)

>
> > > While Teflon wears out, cast iron is "forever," but you have to
> > > keep "curing it"...

>
> Why, is it ill?


Anything that's not used gets rusted. A good parable for Americans who
got so many bikes, and yet can't use them.


>
> > > In other words, we should live under a permanent state of
> > > r-evolution, making corrections along the way.

>
> > > It's what made humans out of monkeys.

>
> I'll ask you the same question I asked the other guy: *do you actually
> understand the theory of evolution? *Your question betrays all kinds of
> ignorance.


Tell me what did. Humans didn't come out of monkeys? Well, we are only
cousins, but they are in our family tree.

>
> > > The Christians' creation though denies evolution both in the past
> > > and present. Proof of that is how they stick to their SUVs in the
> > > face of oil crisis, while denying space to the "smart" bicycles.

>
> How come I see so many liberal atheists driving around in SUVs?


There's a few of those, but at least I can address them by their true
nature: "Mister, you are a predator, and the rest is camouflage."

Christians I think do it more because of their party affiliation, and
because they feel above nature... But they are still predators.

>
> > > If they studied life at the time of the dinosaurs, they'd find out
> > > that's a recipe for disaster, which they call "Armageddon."

>
> Dinosaurs drove SUVs?


No, Dinosaurs are a good metaphor for SUVs: big and stupid. And the
little furry mammals are a good metaphor for the cyclists today.

Beware of the Jungle!
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Old 05-06.-2008, 03:27 AM   #32
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On Jun 4, 7:55*am, dgk <d...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:46:08 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
>
>
>
>
>
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Jun 3, 1:24 pm, "zencycle" <funkmaste...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Jun 3, 11:36 am, Checkers <mkone...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

>
> >> >> chx
> >> >> 10 000 whao, have you guys got special lanes there? you won't make 50
> >> >> here and your a gonner. you'll be lucky if ten taxi's pass you and
> >> >> very lucky to see 15, you will see no more

>
> >> Sometimes, though not where I live. I get most of them by commuting. I've
> >> been doing it for about 20 years now (in and around the boston area), and
> >> I've only ever had an incident once, where a driver coming from the opposite
> >> direction took a left right in front of me. I catapulted over the car,
> >> landed headfirst (helmets work), broke my nose and ankle.

>
> >> I tend to get a bit aggressive in traffic, and have learned to to anticipate
> >> drivers. IF you pretend they don't see you, you're much better off. Youneed
> >> to _make_ them see you. That is, make a move to take the lane when you need
> >> it, but always with a bit of hesistation, so you can withdraw quickly.

>
> >> I worked with a women recently who saw me drafting a jeep in traffic
> >> traveling home from work one day. She said to me, "you're just a littlebit
> >> crazy, aren't you"

>
> >> It takes practice commuting in traffic, especially in a city regarded as one
> >> of the least-bicycle friendly in the country. I wouldn't recommend it for
> >> neophyte cyclist.

>
> >It all makes sense until you figure the "unknown" out there...

>
> >It's not a god, but the only times I come close to praying is when I
> >see those SUVs pass me within inches while their drivers chat on the
> >phone, and I just want to come out alive from that harrowing
> >experience, and promise to myself never to try to go to Heaven, where
> >those Christians go. In other words, I become a BORN AGAIN
> >AGNOSTIC...

>
> Does a Born Again anything get an extra belly button?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Not if you don't request it. Go to any plastic surgery doctor...
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Old 05-06.-2008, 05:29 AM   #33
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Tim McNamara wrote:

> "Bollox" is not a verb.


it can do verb functions though, occasionally.

T
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Old 05-06.-2008, 11:43 AM   #34
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On Jun 4, 3:53 pm, LL <llp...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jun 4, 9:55 am, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I think a typical Christian car would be an SUV with bumper stickers
> > and an American flag.

>
> LL. Plus a christian fish symbol.


Yeah, but I'm not fooled by that: Their Big Fish SUV threatens my
Little Fish bike.
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Old 05-06.-2008, 11:55 AM   #35
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OK, I've got a final question before I decide who's smarter, God or
Man...

Who invented the wheel?

We must praise whoever made the invention of the bicycle possible.
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Old 05-06.-2008, 01:01 PM   #36
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"ComandanteBanana" <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c4c535df-dcff-497c-b7d9-8bb01522a94d@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> OK, I've got a final question before I decide who's smarter, God or
> Man...
>
> Who invented the wheel?
>
> We must praise whoever made the invention of the bicycle possible.


Wasn't it that guy in B.C.?


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Old 05-06.-2008, 10:19 PM   #37
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ComandanteBanana wrote:
> OK, let's change the subject...
>
> I think the bike is an improvement on God's design. Before, man
> depended on the beasts to get around. Even Jesus rode a donkey.
> Imagine what Jesus would have done if he had a bike!
>
> Which proves that mankind can better itself without help from above.


What if God gave man the brain that allowed man to make the bike?

BugBear (atheist, with an interest in logic, comparative theology, and evolution)
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Old 05-06.-2008, 11:38 PM   #38
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On Jun 5, 8:19*am, bugbear <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote:
> ComandanteBanana wrote:
> > OK, let's change the subject...

>
> > I think the bike is an improvement on God's design. Before, man
> > depended on the beasts to get around. Even Jesus rode a donkey.
> > Imagine what Jesus would have done if he had a bike!

>
> > Which proves that mankind can better itself without help from above.

>
> What if God gave man the brain that allowed man to make the bike?
>
> * BugBear (atheist, with an interest in logic, comparative theology, andevolution)


The brain that made the wheel should realize the fact of evolution.
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Old 06-06.-2008, 01:06 AM   #39
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On Jun 4, 5:25 pm, "Lord Vetinari" <vetin...@ameritech.net> wrote:
> "ComandanteBanana" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d98519d1-3b31-4b7f-ba42-87281f79a956@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jun 3, 5:44 pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:

>
> >> > > While Teflon wears out, cast iron is "forever," but you have to
> >> > > keep "curing it"...

>
> >> Why, is it ill?

>
> > Anything that's not used gets rusted.

>
> Only if it hasn't been properly cured & used first.
>
> > A good parable for Americans who
> > got so many bikes, and yet can't use them.

>
> It's only because I have too much crap in my garage to reach them easily.


Well, after you reach it, you will soon realize that the roads are NOT
friendly --a "jungle" so to speak-- to ride a bike... So I wouldn't
bother.

>
> >> > > In other words, we should live under a permanent state of
> >> > > r-evolution, making corrections along the way.

>
> >> > > It's what made humans out of monkeys.

>
> >> I'll ask you the same question I asked the other guy: do you actually
> >> understand the theory of evolution? Your question betrays all kinds of
> >> ignorance.

>
> > Tell me what did. Humans didn't come out of monkeys? Well, we are only
> > cousins, but they are in our family tree.

>
> Monkeys split off before humans split off from the other apes...so,
> relatively distant cousins, wouldn't you say?


I know, but perhaps I feel more akin to them because they are more
funny. Gorillas scare me, particularly after King Kong.

>
> >> > > The Christians' creation though denies evolution both in the past
> >> > > and present. Proof of that is how they stick to their SUVs in the
> >> > > face of oil crisis, while denying space to the "smart" bicycles.

>
> >> How come I see so many liberal atheists driving around in SUVs?

>
> > There's a few of those, but at least I can address them by their true
> > nature: "Mister, you are a predator, and the rest is camouflage."

>
> I'm not getting you. In which way, are they predators?


If you go by the definition of "predator," they look like one...

(Yahoo definition)

1- An organism that lives by preying on other organisms.
2- One that victimizes, plunders, or destroys, especially for one's
own gain.

Definition #2 is quite fitting of those who reckelessly put others on
the road at risk, and who wantonly destroy the environment.

I call them the "hungry lion" and sometimes the "beast."

>
> > Christians I think do it more because of their party affiliation, and
> > because they feel above nature... But they are still predators.

>
> I can understand Xians being referred to as predators.


Well, if the act as predators, they are predators, despite all their
camouflage (ie, religious affiliation, bumper stickers, etc.)

But Atheists could be predators too, just that perhaps they wouldn't
be so hypocrite about it. Less camouflage, but same beast. (I prefer
to see the beast for what it is. Lions have a hard time hunting once
their prey have seen them.)

>
> >> > > If they studied life at the time of the dinosaurs, they'd find out
> >> > > that's a recipe for disaster, which they call "Armageddon."

>
> >> Dinosaurs drove SUVs?

>
> > No, Dinosaurs are a good metaphor for SUVs: big and stupid.

>
> Every time I think of SUVs, they remind me of this story:http://www.mgexperience.net/article/nice-drive.html


I'll check into it later.

>
> Of course, that reminds me of Red Barchetta, which was immediately obviously
> closely related. If my basement has dried out enough, maybe I'll digitize
> that record tonight.
>
> > And the little furry mammals are a good metaphor for the cyclists today.

>
> Especially while they're grooving with a Pict.
>
> > Beware of the Jungle!

>
> Which one? The Blackboard Jungle?


The Christian jungle, where the sheep support the lion, and the lion
looks like a sheep...

HOW THE BLACK SHEEP WERE EXPELLED

One day the Lion, who had been thinking how to best eat the sheep,
decided to dress as one of them... This way the common sheep trusted
the new sheep more and more every day, some confessing to him, others
voting for him, and most allowing to be fleeced by him...

Meanwhile, the Black Sheep --who was able to see through camouflage--
thought this way: "If he lies, and takes the lion's share, lion he
is..."

And that's the reason why from then on the Black Sheep weren't allowed
to mingle anymore with the simple and common sheep...


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Old 06-06.-2008, 03:34 AM   #40
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On 5 juin, 15:06, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Which one? The Blackboard Jungle?

>
> The Christian jungle, where the sheep support the lion, and the lion
> looks like a sheep...
>
> HOW THE BLACK SHEEP WERE EXPELLED
>
> One day the Lion, who had been thinking how to best eat the sheep,
> decided to dress as one of them... This way the common sheep trusted
> the new sheep more and more every day, some confessing to him, others
> voting for him, and most allowing to be fleeced by him...
>
> Meanwhile, the Black Sheep --who was able to see through camouflage--
> thought this way: "If he lies, and takes the lion's share, lion he
> is..."
>
> And that's the reason why from then on the Black Sheep weren't allowed
> to mingle anymore with the simple and common sheep...


Don't want to be coldly rational but where can a wild lion catch and
eat a sheep?
Maybe a coughing lion escaped from the Glagow zoo can but this cannot
have inspired God.

Some of your views on evolution are interesting. Many people miss the
fact that human societies are the latest 'beasts' created by
evolution, men are only bits of it: ants with two oversized testicles.

Men was a mistake, an unfortunate attempt, with us life has lost 100
million years.

Sholl
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Old 06-06.-2008, 04:58 AM   #41
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"jp1138" <Sholly.hit@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:87224e7f-4e0b-430c-a5e1-7958e6033e10@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On 5 juin, 15:06, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Which one? The Blackboard Jungle?

>>
>> The Christian jungle, where the sheep support the lion, and the lion
>> looks like a sheep...
>>
>> HOW THE BLACK SHEEP WERE EXPELLED
>>
>> One day the Lion, who had been thinking how to best eat the sheep,
>> decided to dress as one of them... This way the common sheep trusted
>> the new sheep more and more every day, some confessing to him, others
>> voting for him, and most allowing to be fleeced by him...
>>
>> Meanwhile, the Black Sheep --who was able to see through camouflage--
>> thought this way: "If he lies, and takes the lion's share, lion he
>> is..."
>>
>> And that's the reason why from then on the Black Sheep weren't allowed
>> to mingle anymore with the simple and common sheep...

>
> Don't want to be coldly rational but where can a wild lion catch and
> eat a sheep?


Western North America. Many places in Africa.


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Old 06-06.-2008, 06:11 AM   #42
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On Jun 5, 1:34*pm, jp1138 <Sholly....@gmail.com> wrote:

> > And that's the reason why from then on the Black Sheep weren't allowed
> > to mingle anymore with the simple and common sheep...

>
> Don't want to be coldly rational but where can a wild lion catch and
> eat a sheep?
> Maybe a coughing lion escaped from the Glagow zoo can but this cannot
> have inspired God.
>
> Some of your views on evolution are interesting. Many people miss the
> fact that human societies are the latest 'beasts' created by
> evolution, men are only bits of it: ants with two oversized testicles.
>
> Men was a mistake, an unfortunate attempt, with us life has lost 100
> million years.
>


The ones that created the wheel weren't a mistake; perhaps the ones
that created the SUV are...

>
> On 6/5/08, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > OK, I've got a final question before I decide who's smarter, God or
> > Man...

>
> > Who invented the wheel?


On Jun 5, 12:16 pm, "Keith MacNevins" <kmacnev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seems to me God invented the hydrogen atom.



It makes sense. Then an atheist invented the wheel.

Who created the SUV?

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Old 06-06.-2008, 06:29 AM   #43
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On Jun 5, 1:34*pm, jp1138 <Sholly....@gmail.com> wrote:

> > And that's the reason why from then on the Black Sheep weren't allowed
> > to mingle anymore with the simple and common sheep...

>
> Don't want to be coldly rational but where can a wild lion catch and
> eat a sheep?
> Maybe a coughing lion escaped from the Glagow zoo can but this cannot
> have inspired God.


You sound too rational to read the Bible, but they lion and the sheep
dwell in a mythical place called...

Hicks’s Peaceable Kingdom

His symbols of the animals were joined to a quotation of Isaiah's
prophecy in the Bible (Isa. 11:6):

"The wolf shall also dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie
down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling
together; and a little child shall lead them."

'The Peaceable Kingdom' paintings portray a delicate balance of
difficult and unresolved issues. The lion-ego poses the greatest
threat. The wild animals are seemingly domesticated and brought into
line with loving kindness. However, their expression of pop-eyed
puzzlement is not lost on any viewer. For the moment, they are
behaving themselves, eating bovine food and not the little lambs.

http://www2.gol.com/users/quakers/H...ble_Kingdom.htm
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Old 06-06.-2008, 07:09 AM   #44
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"ComandanteBanana" <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 5, 1:34 pm, jp1138 <Sholly....@gmail.com> wrote:

> > And that's the reason why from then on the Black Sheep weren't allowed
> > to mingle anymore with the simple and common sheep...

>
> Don't want to be coldly rational but where can a wild lion catch and
> eat a sheep?
> Maybe a coughing lion escaped from the Glagow zoo can but this cannot
> have inspired God.


You sound too rational to read the Bible, but they lion and the sheep
dwell in a mythical place called...

Hicks’s Peaceable Kingdom

His symbols of the animals were joined to a quotation of Isaiah's
prophecy in the Bible (Isa. 11:6):

"The wolf shall also dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie
down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling
together; and a little child shall lead them."


Oddly, there was a special on Animal planet recently about a lioness that
was stealing Oryx calves. She'd "care for" them until they died of
starvation or some other lion came by and ate them. It was really
disgusting.


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Old 06-06.-2008, 07:23 AM   #45
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On 5 juin, 20:29, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 1:34 pm, jp1138 <Sholly....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > And that's the reason why from then on the Black Sheep weren't allowed
> > > to mingle anymore with the simple and common sheep...

>
> > Don't want to be coldly rational but where can a wild lion catch and
> > eat a sheep?
> > Maybe a coughing lion escaped from the Glagow zoo can but this cannot
> > have inspired God.

>
> You sound too rational to read the Bible, but they lion and the sheep
> dwell in a mythical place called...



I am an European atheist and a ?cyclist?. I read genesis recently!
It's time for an update or total destruction of all heretic writings,
thoughts, ...


> Hicks’s Peaceable Kingdom
>
> His symbols of the animals were joined to a quotation of Isaiah's
> prophecy in the Bible (Isa. 11:6):
>
> "The wolf shall also dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie
> down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling
> together; and a little child shall lead them."



Sounds like the sixties when everybody was sleeping with everybody


> 'The Peaceable Kingdom' paintings portray a delicate balance of
> difficult and unresolved issues. The lion-ego poses the greatest
> threat. The wild animals are seemingly domesticated and brought into
> line with loving kindness. However, their expression of pop-eyed
> puzzlement is not lost on any viewer. For the moment, they are
> behaving themselves, eating bovine food and not the little lambs.
>
> http://www2.gol.com/users/quakers/H...ble_Kingdom.htm


Nice pictures,

Sholl
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