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Mike=Sociopath/personality disorder. The lines blur between truth and
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On Jun 1, 1:45*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 06:06:13 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane > > > > > > <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote: > >On Jun 1, 12:43*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> On Sat, 31 May 2008 17:24:04 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane > > >> <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >On May 31, 7:02*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> >> On Sat, 31 May 2008 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane > > >> >> <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >On May 31, 2:24*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> >> >> So it turns out that Walter LIED about not being a mountain biker! > > >> >> >So 1990 is now 2008? Seems he was a mountain biker in the 90's and is > >> >> >not presently. In fact I asked him just last week if he owned a > >> >> >mountain bike and he told me "no, I'm into track bikes" which his > >> >> >website confirms. > > >> >> He said he is not a mountain biker, thus hiding the fact that he WASa > >> >> mountain biker at one time, proving that he is as STOOPID as the rest > >> >> of them. Real environmentalists don't mountain bike. > > >> >Real enviromentalists don't fly on commercial jets either. > > >> Nor work "in the aviation industry", hypocrite! > > >Bzzzzzz! Wrong! > > >Many wildlife surveys are done from the air. Same as studies on > >deforestation, illegal dumping, strip mining, land use, pollution, > >etc. > > >Aerial mapping, aerial surveys, aerial photography, they are all > >essential in enforcing environmental laws, wildlife management, future > >and current land use and much more. > > BS. Not "essential", just "convenient" for people who don't care about > the environment. What do you think we did before the airplane was > invented? Darwin did the most for wildlife, and never flew in an > airplane. The view from the air is BS. It ALWAYS has to be > "ground-truthed" anyway. You are just embarrassed to be caught in your > own HYPOCRISY. Before the airplane was invented we were not destroying the planet at the rate we are now. Darwin never had to deal with massive deforestation, strip mining, overpopulation, urban sprawl, ozone depletion, global warming and the polar ice caps melting. You should be embarrassed that you cannot see that times and problems, as well as solutions, have changed. It's not 1834, dummy. > > >Unlike yours, my profession is directly involved in the conservation > >of land, wildlife and natural resources. > > Then why are you so stooopid as to be a mountain biker? You obviously > haven't a CLUE what conservation is about. When did I state I was a mountain-biker? Why do you have to keep lying when you lose an argument, Michael J. Vandeman? You obviously are incapable of telling the truth |
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On May 31, 4:02 pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2008 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane > > <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote: > >On May 31, 2:24 pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> So it turns out that Walter LIED about not being a mountain biker! > > >So 1990 is now 2008? Seems he was a mountain biker in the 90's and is > >not presently. In fact I asked him just last week if he owned a > >mountain bike and he told me "no, I'm into track bikes" which his > >website confirms. > > He said he is not a mountain biker... And obviously, a full grasp of the English language escapes you. You do realize that the word "is" denotes present tense? As in, right now? You're grasping at straws. Again. E.P. |
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On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 15:02:30 -0700 (PDT), "maguahiker@gmail.com"
<maguahiker@gmail.com> wrote: Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED: "I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for a laugh. http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg" You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 21:06:31 -0700 (PDT), Ed Pirrero
<gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote: >On May 31, 4:02 pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: >> On Sat, 31 May 2008 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane >> >> <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >On May 31, 2:24 pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: >> >> So it turns out that Walter LIED about not being a mountain biker! >> >> >So 1990 is now 2008? Seems he was a mountain biker in the 90's and is >> >not presently. In fact I asked him just last week if he owned a >> >mountain bike and he told me "no, I'm into track bikes" which his >> >website confirms. >> >> He said he is not a mountain biker... > >And obviously, a full grasp of the English language escapes you. You >do realize that the word "is" denotes present tense? As in, right >now? But an honest person, given the CONTEXT, would have admitted that he had been a mountain biker in the past. You wouldn't and don't understand anything about honesty. >You're grasping at straws. > >Again. > >E.P. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 17:31:03 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
<Siskuwihane1@gmail.com> wrote: >On Jun 1, 1:45*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: >> On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 06:06:13 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane >> >> >> >> >> >> <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >On Jun 1, 12:43*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: >> >> On Sat, 31 May 2008 17:24:04 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane >> >> >> <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >On May 31, 7:02*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, 31 May 2008 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane >> >> >> >> <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >On May 31, 2:24*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> So it turns out that Walter LIED about not being a mountain biker! >> >> >> >> >So 1990 is now 2008? Seems he was a mountain biker in the 90's and is >> >> >> >not presently. In fact I asked him just last week if he owned a >> >> >> >mountain bike and he told me "no, I'm into track bikes" which his >> >> >> >website confirms. >> >> >> >> He said he is not a mountain biker, thus hiding the fact that he WAS a >> >> >> mountain biker at one time, proving that he is as STOOPID as the rest >> >> >> of them. Real environmentalists don't mountain bike. >> >> >> >Real enviromentalists don't fly on commercial jets either. >> >> >> Nor work "in the aviation industry", hypocrite! >> >> >Bzzzzzz! Wrong! >> >> >Many wildlife surveys are done from the air. Same as studies on >> >deforestation, illegal dumping, strip mining, land use, pollution, >> >etc. >> >> >Aerial mapping, aerial surveys, aerial photography, they are all >> >essential in enforcing environmental laws, wildlife management, future >> >and current land use and much more. >> >> BS. Not "essential", just "convenient" for people who don't care about >> the environment. What do you think we did before the airplane was >> invented? Darwin did the most for wildlife, and never flew in an >> airplane. The view from the air is BS. It ALWAYS has to be >> "ground-truthed" anyway. You are just embarrassed to be caught in your >> own HYPOCRISY. > >Before the airplane was invented we were not destroying the planet at >the rate we are now. Darwin never had to deal with massive >deforestation, strip mining, overpopulation, urban sprawl, ozone >depletion, global warming and the polar ice caps melting. You should >be embarrassed that you cannot see that times and problems, as well as >solutions, have changed. It's not 1834, dummy. >> >> >Unlike yours, my profession is directly involved in the conservation >> >of land, wildlife and natural resources. >> >> Then why are you so stooopid as to be a mountain biker? You obviously >> haven't a CLUE what conservation is about. > >When did I state I was a mountain-biker? Why do you have to keep lying >when you lose an argument, Michael J. Vandeman? You obviously are >incapable of telling the truth You act like one, by LYING continually. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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On Jun 2, 7:54*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 21:06:31 -0700 (PDT), Ed Pirrero > > > > > > <gcmschem...@gmail.com> wrote: > >On May 31, 4:02 pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> On Sat, 31 May 2008 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane > > >> <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >On May 31, 2:24 pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> >> So it turns out that Walter LIED about not being a mountain biker! > > >> >So 1990 is now 2008? Seems he was a mountain biker in the 90's and is > >> >not presently. In fact I asked him just last week if he owned a > >> >mountain bike and he told me "no, I'm into track bikes" which his > >> >website confirms. > > >> He said he is not a mountain biker... > > >And obviously, a full grasp of the English language escapes you. *You > >do realize that the word "is" denotes present tense? *As in, right > >now? > > But an honest person, given the CONTEXT, would have admitted that he > had been a mountain biker in the past. Why? How is that relevant to the present? Being a teenager in the past doesn't make me one now, duh. E.P. |
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On Jun 2, 10:56*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 17:31:03 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane > > > > > > <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote: > >On Jun 1, 1:45*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 06:06:13 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane > > >> <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >On Jun 1, 12:43*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> >> On Sat, 31 May 2008 17:24:04 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane > > >> >> <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >On May 31, 7:02*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, 31 May 2008 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane > > >> >> >> <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >On May 31, 2:24*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> >> >> >> So it turns out that Walter LIED about not being a mountain biker! > > >> >> >> >So 1990 is now 2008? Seems he was a mountain biker in the 90's and is > >> >> >> >not presently. In fact I asked him just last week if he owned a > >> >> >> >mountain bike and he told me "no, I'm into track bikes" which his > >> >> >> >website confirms. > > >> >> >> He said he is not a mountain biker, thus hiding the fact that he WAS a > >> >> >> mountain biker at one time, proving that he is as STOOPID as the rest > >> >> >> of them. Real environmentalists don't mountain bike. > > >> >> >Real enviromentalists don't fly on commercial jets either. > > >> >> Nor work "in the aviation industry", hypocrite! > > >> >Bzzzzzz! Wrong! > > >> >Many wildlife surveys are done from the air. Same as studies on > >> >deforestation, illegal dumping, strip mining, land use, pollution, > >> >etc. > > >> >Aerial mapping, aerial surveys, aerial photography, they are all > >> >essential in enforcing environmental laws, wildlife management, future > >> >and current land use and much more. > > >> BS. Not "essential", just "convenient" for people who don't care about > >> the environment. What do you think we did before the airplane was > >> invented? Darwin did the most for wildlife, and never flew in an > >> airplane. The view from the air is BS. It ALWAYS has to be > >> "ground-truthed" anyway. You are just embarrassed to be caught in your > >> own HYPOCRISY. > > >Before the airplane was invented we were not destroying the planet at > >the rate we are now. Darwin never had to deal with massive > >deforestation, strip mining, overpopulation, urban sprawl, ozone > >depletion, global warming and the polar ice caps melting. You should > >be embarrassed that you cannot see that times and problems, as well as > >solutions, have changed. It's not 1834, dummy. > > >> >Unlike yours, my profession is directly involved in the conservation > >> >of land, wildlife and natural resources. > > >> Then why are you so stooopid as to be a mountain biker? You obviously > >> haven't a CLUE what conservation is about. > > >When did I state I was a mountain-biker? Why do you have to keep lying > >when you lose an argument, Michael J. Vandeman? You obviously are > >incapable of telling the truth > > You act like one, by LYING continually. I haven't lied yet, but you lied and said I was a mountain biker and lied by saying I worked for an airline, thus you are a LIAR. |
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On Jun 2, 1:53*pm, Ed Pirrero <gcmschem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 2, 7:54*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 21:06:31 -0700 (PDT), Ed Pirrero > > > <gcmschem...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On May 31, 4:02 pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: > > >> On Sat, 31 May 2008 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane > > > >> <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> >On May 31, 2:24 pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote: > > >> >> So it turns out that Walter LIED about not being a mountain biker! > > > >> >So 1990 is now 2008? Seems he was a mountain biker in the 90's and is > > >> >not presently. In fact I asked him just last week if he owned a > > >> >mountain bike and he told me "no, I'm into track bikes" which his > > >> >website confirms. > > > >> He said he is not a mountain biker... > > > >And obviously, a full grasp of the English language escapes you. *You > > >do realize that the word "is" denotes present tense? *As in, right > > >now? > > > But an honest person, given the CONTEXT, would have admitted that he > > had been a mountain biker in the past. > > Why? *How is that relevant to the present? *Being a teenager in the > past doesn't make me one now, duh. Touche' |
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> But an honest person, given the CONTEXT, would have admitted that he > had been a mountain biker in the past. You wouldn't and don't > understand anything about honesty. > Dickweed...look back at the prior posts of google. I posted once before I used to MTB but no longer am...therefore I am NOT a mountain biker. If I wanted to conceal facts...I wouldn't post it on my site. Using your logic...For instance...you dodged the draft making you a permanent draft dodger and coward... Or someone could say...because you didn't believe in God in the past...but now are saved...you are still an agnostic or athiest...or because you smoked dope 20 years ago...you're still a pothead! Your logic...is illogical. Because YOU LIE! |
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On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 17:48:30 -0700 (PDT), "maguahiker@gmail.com"
<maguahiker@gmail.com> wrote: > >> But an honest person, given the CONTEXT, would have admitted that he >> had been a mountain biker in the past. You wouldn't and don't >> understand anything about honesty. >> > >Dickweed...look back at the prior posts of google. I posted once >before I used to MTB but no longer am...therefore I am NOT a mountain >biker. If I wanted to conceal facts...I wouldn't post it on my site. >Using your logic...For instance...you dodged the draft making you a >permanent draft dodger and coward... > >Or someone could say...because you didn't believe in God in the >past...but now are saved...you are still an agnostic or athiest...or >because you smoked dope 20 years ago...you're still a pothead! > >Your logic...is illogical. Because YOU LIE! Yawn. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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I entirely agree...these lies from a environmental destroyer like Mike, I fly and lie Vandeman. I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:03o5441ikoqu10qv3e7dnohvfkd9ej64m1@4ax.com... >> >> >>That's okay, you lied about being smart. You might prefer to call it a >>half >>truth, but everybody else knows it's a lie. We can tell the difference. > > Thanks for supporting me! I did say he is a liar. > You lost sight of the subject of the conversation. You were talking about him, I was talking about you. You lied about being smart, you just proved it again. Your sig line is a lie. |
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