Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.

Mike Vandeman

On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 17:12:18 -0700 (PDT), "maguahiker@gmail.com"
<maguahiker@gmail.com> wrote:

>Interesting...everyone that posts on these usenet are liars in
>comparison with St Mike who has never told a lie.

That's because they are mountain bikers, who are incorrigible liars.

Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED:

"I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
a laugh.

http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"

You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Ed Pirrero

On Jun 2, 1:20*pm, Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 2, 10:55*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> You're never going to live it down that you are only half a man...

You give him more credit than he deserves. He's no man at all - just
a minor irritant in usenet, hardly even a human being.

E.P.

Doug Bashford

On Tue, 03, Mike Vandeman said about:
Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.


> On Mon, 02 Jun (Doug Bashford) wrote:
>
> >
> >maguahiker@gmail.com said about:
> > Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.
> >
> >
> >> Mike=Sociopath/personality disorder. The lines blur between truth and
> >> untruth for Mike.
> >>
> >> Interesting...everyone that posts on these usenet are liars in
> >> comparison with St Mike who has never told a lie.
> >
> >What a legacy he leaves, huh?
> >His tombstone will read: Here lies a good man who at every
> >turn lost track of the Big Picture, and died shaking
> >his fist at bicyclists.
>
> The only ones shaking their fists are mountain bikers. And getting
> apoplectic, to boot:
>
> X-Apparently-To: mjvande@pacbell.net via 68.142.199.95; Thu, 29 May

And you consider that a victory?
And you don't even see how low you have sunk.

Did you know?
The man who washes his hands 20, 40 times a day,
and checks his locked doors 10, 40 times a day,
not only can explain why why it's normal, but
why it's rational. But more, he will have a whole
belief system to back that up, he will see "proof"
and validation of this world view countless times.
His actions are only logical.
Except his actions developed BEFORE his world view.

How would you describe that Mike?

Did you know?
If we don't change our direction,
we'll end up where we're headed.

What does Vandeman value? Who is he?
Google:
Results about 18,300 from Jan 1, 1981 to Aug 31, 2008 for
author:Vandeman
....and without bikes:
Results 2,670 from Jan 1, 1981 to Aug 31, 2008 for -bike OR
-biker OR -bikes author:Vandeman
...or one in 6.85 not about bikes.


Results 2,720 from Jan 1, 2006 to Aug 31, 2008 for
author:Vandeman
....and without bikes:
Results 61 from Jan 1, 2006 to Aug 31, 2008 for -bike OR
-biker OR -bikes author:Vandeman
...or one in 44.59.


If we don't change our direction,
we'll end up where we're headed.




PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
So?
Are you better off now than seven years ago?
Are you proud with what they have done to
America and her reputation? ...To your reputation?
....all the sleaze, lies and bribery?
How about all the killing?
....Americans torture now? Proud?

If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
Just one.

Just one *real* thing.

Can't do it?
You have only feelsgood rhetoric?

So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?

DI

"Doug Bashford" <playing@always.edu> wrote in message
news:meudnVWoQcqpmtrVnZ2dnUVZ_o7inZ2d@pghconnect.com...
>
> PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
> Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
> AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
> So?
> Are you better off now than seven years ago?
> Are you proud with what they have done to
> America and her reputation? ...To your reputation?
> ...all the sleaze, lies and bribery?
> How about all the killing?
> ...Americans torture now? Proud?
>
> If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
> name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
> Just one.
>
> Just one *real* thing.
>
> Can't do it?
> You have only feelsgood rhetoric?
>
> So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?
>
Bullshit, at least we don't have any more government control of our life
like we'll have with Obama or Hillary running the show with their socialist
ideas/

Mike Vandeman

On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:20:49 GMT, playing@always.edu (Doug Bashford)
wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, 03, Mike Vandeman said about:
> Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.
>
>
>> On Mon, 02 Jun (Doug Bashford) wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >maguahiker@gmail.com said about:
>> > Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Mike=Sociopath/personality disorder. The lines blur between truth and
>> >> untruth for Mike.
>> >>
>> >> Interesting...everyone that posts on these usenet are liars in
>> >> comparison with St Mike who has never told a lie.
>> >
>> >What a legacy he leaves, huh?
>> >His tombstone will read: Here lies a good man who at every
>> >turn lost track of the Big Picture, and died shaking
>> >his fist at bicyclists.
>>
>> The only ones shaking their fists are mountain bikers. And getting
>> apoplectic, to boot:
>>
>> X-Apparently-To: mjvande@pacbell.net via 68.142.199.95; Thu, 29 May
>
>And you consider that a victory?
>And you don't even see how low you have sunk.

Me? I'm not the one threatening people. MOUNTAIN BIKERS are doing
that. REGULARLY. And LYING constantly, as you do.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Beej Jorgensen

Mike Vandeman <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote:
>Me? I'm not the one threatening people. MOUNTAIN BIKERS are doing that.
>REGULARLY. And LYING constantly, as you do.

You weren't by any chance out in front of the Berkeley library (main
branch) about 7 pm on Monday, were you?

There was a pedestrian arguing with a cyclist quite loudly, and it
reminded me of you.

(I borrowed a DVD copy of The Candidate. Excellent flick.)

-Beej

Mike Vandeman

On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 07:33:44 +0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us>
wrote:

>Mike Vandeman <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>Me? I'm not the one threatening people. MOUNTAIN BIKERS are doing that.
>>REGULARLY. And LYING constantly, as you do.
>
>You weren't by any chance out in front of the Berkeley library (main
>branch) about 7 pm on Monday, were you?
>
>There was a pedestrian arguing with a cyclist quite loudly, and it
>reminded me of you.

We're EVERYWHERE! You can run, but you can't hide!

>(I borrowed a DVD copy of The Candidate. Excellent flick.)
>
>-Beej
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

maguahiker@gmail.com

Sociopath

Ed Pirrero

On Jun 4, 4:32 pm, "DI" <di9...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Doug Bashford" <play...@always.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:meudnVWoQcqpmtrVnZ2dnUVZ_o7inZ2d@pghconnect.com...
>
>
>
> > PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
> > Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
> > AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
> > So?
> > Are you better off now than seven years ago?
> > Are you proud with what they have done to
> > America and her reputation? ...To your reputation?
> > ...all the sleaze, lies and bribery?
> > How about all the killing?
> > ...Americans torture now? Proud?
>
> > If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
> > name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
> > Just one.
>
> > Just one *real* thing.
>
> > Can't do it?
> > You have only feelsgood rhetoric?
>
> > So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?
>
> Bullshit, at least we don't have any more government control of our life
> like we'll have with Obama or Hillary running the show with their socialist
> ideas/

You obviously have no idea what socialism is.

Get some education.

E.P.

Doug Bashford

DI said about:
Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.


>
> "Doug Bashford" wrote

> > PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
> > Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
> > AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
> > So?
> > Are you better off now than seven years ago?
> > Are you proud with what they have done to
> > America and her reputation? ...To your reputation?
> > ...all the sleaze, lies and bribery?
> > How about all the killing?
> > ...Americans torture now? Proud?
> >
> > If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
> > name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
> > Just one.
> >
> > Just one *real* thing.
> >
> > Can't do it?
> > You have only feelsgood rhetoric?
> >
> > So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?
> >
> Bullshit, at least we don't have any more government control of our life
> like we'll have with Obama or Hillary running the show with their socialist
> ideas/

Rush Limbaugh would disagree with you.
....so would say, Right Winger Pat Buchannon.

Republicans are like drunken sailors with an
enemy's Gold Card. SPEND SPEND SPEND !!
...of course for them,
government IS the enemy.

Why are you so deluded?
Where do you get yer news anyway!?
Fox News !!????

Rush Limbaugh:
"Voters who voted yesterday believe that
Republicans are; "the big government party now."
How can you blame them?"
-- Rush Limbaugh November 8, 2006

PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
So?
Are you better off now than seven years ago?
Are you proud with what they have done to
America and her reputation? ...To your reputation?
....all the sleaze, lies and bribery?
How about all the killing?
....Americans torture now? Proud?

If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
Just one.

Just one *real* thing.

Can't do it?
You have only feelsgood rhetoric?

So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?

Doug Bashford

"We stand for the maintenance of private property.... We shall
protect free enterprise as the most expedient, or rather the sole
possible economic order." --- Adolf Hitler, "Der Fuehrer", 1926
(or p. 287, U.S. edition)

Be afraid, America.

> On Jun 4, 4:32 pm, "DI" wrote:
> > "Doug Bashford" wrote

> > > PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
> > > Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
> > > AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
> > > So?
> > > Are you better off now than seven years ago?
> > > Are you proud with what they have done to
> > > America and her reputation? ...To your reputation?
> > > ...all the sleaze, lies and bribery?
> > > How about all the killing?
> > > ...Americans torture now? Proud?
> >
> > > If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
> > > name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
> > > Just one.
> >
> > > Just one *real* thing.
> >
> > > Can't do it?
> > > You have only feelsgood rhetoric?
> >
> > > So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?
> >
> > Bullshit, at least we don't have any more government control of our life
> > like we'll have with Obama or Hillary running the show with their socialist
> > ideas/
>
> You obviously have no idea what socialism is.
>
> Get some education. > E.P.

If they had an education would they be Republican?

When Karl Rove agrees with John Stuart Mill,
I perk up my ears:

“I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally
stupid.
I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative.
I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted
a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.”
- John Stuart Mill, letter to Sir John Pakington, March, 1866

I don't think Gentleman Karl Rove would deny it.:

"As people do better, they start voting like Republicans --
unless
they have too much education and vote Democratic, which
proves
there can be too much of a good thing."
--Karl Rove, in the February 19, 2001 issue of The New
Yorker.

Indeed, the
National GeographicRoper 2002 Global Geographic Literacy Survey
found that young America is among the world's most
ignorant. Only Mexico did worse. It's almost as if
our educational system
has been cultivating our ignorance.

Synopsis from World Book 1958:
Fascism's parts:
1) extreme nationalism, 2) police state, 3) cultivation
of ignorance, 4) suppression of labor, 5) militarism.

American Heritage® Dictionary na·tion·al·ism NOUN: 1.
Devotion to the
interests or culture of one's nation. 2. The belief that nations
will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively,
emphasizing national rather than international goals.

militarism: American Heritage® 2. Predominance of the armed
forces in the administration or policy of the state. 3. A policy
in which military preparedness is of primary importance to a
state.

"Fascism should more properly be called
corporatism, since it is the merger
of state and corporate power."
- Benito Mussolini, father of Fascism.

....that's the opposite of business regulation.
Think about it.
Words mean something.




PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
So?
Are you better off now than seven years ago?
Are you proud with what they have done to
America and her reputation? ...To your reputation?
....all the sleaze, lies and bribery?
How about all the killing?
....Americans torture now? Proud?

If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
Just one.

Just one *real* thing.

Can't do it?
You have only feelsgood rhetoric?

So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?

DI

"Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fa34b3a5-604a-45ec-bc51-eda8c1c2b3ba@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>\

>> Bullshit, at least we don't have any more government control of our life
>> like we'll have with Obama or Hillary running the show with their
>> socialist
>> ideas/
>
> You obviously have no idea what socialism is.
>
> Get some education.
>
> E.P.

I have some education. I grew up during the Eisenhower error and was a
young man during the Johnson error. I know what big government control is,
and it's the policy of the Democratic Party of today. If you want some
bureaucrat telling you when and where you can take a shit, then go ahead and
vote for them, I will never vote for another Democrat again.

Ed Pirrero

On Jun 7, 4:59 am, "DI" <di9...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschem...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fa34b3a5-604a-45ec-bc51-eda8c1c2b3ba@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >\
> >> Bullshit, at least we don't have any more government control of our life
> >> like we'll have with Obama or Hillary running the show with their
> >> socialist
> >> ideas/
>
> > You obviously have no idea what socialism is.
>
> > Get some education.
>
> > E.P.
>
> I have some education.

On political issues, I have seen no demonstration of it.

> I know what big government control is,
> and it's the policy of the Democratic Party of today.

That very well may be true. But that's not socialism.

> If you want some
> bureaucrat telling you when and where you can take a shit, then go ahead and
> vote for them, I will never vote for another Democrat again.

Considering the current administration and the six years of GOP gov-
growing, your statement is LOL-funny.

E.P.

Bill Sornson

DI wrote:
> "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fa34b3a5-604a-45ec-bc51-eda8c1c2b3ba@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> \
>
>>> Bullshit, at least we don't have any more government control of our
>>> life like we'll have with Obama or Hillary running the show with
>>> their socialist
>>> ideas/
>>
>> You obviously have no idea what socialism is.
>>
>> Get some education.
>>
>> E.P.
>
> I have some education. I grew up during the Eisenhower error and
> was a young man during the Johnson error. I know what big
> government control is, and it's the policy of the Democratic Party of
> today. If you want some bureaucrat telling you when and where you
> can take a shit, then go ahead and vote for them, I will never vote
> for another Democrat again.

Ed's ideology trumps your experience /and/ education...not to mention common
sense.

HTH!