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Nick wrote: > spindrift wrote: >> http://www.lcc.org.uk/index.asp?PageID=1145 >> >> The evidence seems clear to me, motorbikes are faster moving, heavier, >> and pose a greater risk to cyclists. >> > I'd sign one to ban buses from bus lanes but I don't have a problem with > motorbikes. I agree with that. I have never had a problem with motorbikes. |
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burtthebike wrote: > > "Fr Jack" <sp@m.com> wrote in message > news:14uq34t455h37eoha2kouc27448iglnbsa@4ax.com... >> spindrift <newtyres@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> and pose a greater risk to cyclists. >> >> Rubbish! > > As someone who regularly is forced to share bus lanes with motorcycles, > this is not rubbish, this is absolutely true. The behaviour of some > motorcylists is almost unbelievable, and my life has been put at risk a > number of times by aggressive and irresponsible motorcyclists, in bus > lanes. Strange, I have never had trouble with motorbikes in bus lanes, despite living only a few miles from you. > One of the problems is that as soon as they are allowed in bus > lanes, they automatically assume that they can use any cycle facility, > and do so, including cycle lanes, Most cycle lanes around here are unsuitable for cyclists, let alone motorbikes. > ASLs, I have no problem with motorbikes[1] sharing an ASL with me. On the whole the get away faster, I would much prefer them to pass slowly whilst the traffic lights are red, than wait behind me for the lights to turn green. > bicycle parking. The problem with Bristol is that there is simply not enough bicycle parking. Where Sheffield stands are provided, they are often full. And it is not a good idea to lock your bike to railings, as the council like to chop up peoples locks. > There's one > particular quad bike rider in north Bristol who I have difficulty in > believing that he is still alive, or that he hasn't killed someone. I have seen one bloke on a quad a couple of times, but not seen anything bad. [1] I am talking about proper motorbikes, not those silly things with lawnmower engines. |
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On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 06:19:58 -0700 (PDT), Nuxx Bar
<derderderder619@hotmail.com> said in <b9abd0ac-d88a-46ad-8cd9-f2dbf78976ff@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: >> more lies >Give it up eh? Something wrong with your attribution, since those words don't appear anywhere in my post. Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound |
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Colin McKenzie wrote:
> - What are bus lanes for? > Buses. > - Why were cycles allowed in them? > Because of the effect of forcing them into the other lane (petrified > cyclists and delayed motorists). These effects do not happen with > motorbikes. Though having cyclists in bus lanes (where the bus lanes are not at least 1.5 metres wider than a bus) causes trouble as well, IMO. Buses flow far better in Dutch bus lanes where *only* buses are allowed, and a separate, segregated cycle lane is provided. If there isn't space for such a lane, having the bus lanes up the outside[1] (rather than inside) lane of a dual carriageway works better. Again this is something that's common outside the UK (and works really well) but rare in the UK. [1] i.e. the lane by the central reservation Neil |
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