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24-05.-2008, 03:10 AM
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Re: Contador can ITT ?
On May 22, 11:42*pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 22, 4:17*am, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Moreover, when Contador was w/ Seguros, he won the ITT in the 2005 Vuelta > > >> al País Vasco while "only" taking 3rd overall. Perhaps one could make the > > >> conclusion (if one were to base one's conclusions about a racer soleyon > > >> race results) that Contador was a good ITTer and lost that race because of > > >> his lack of climbing skills. > > > >In addition the 2nd half involved lots of climbing. Simoni did well too, > > >and he's not exactly renowned dor his TT abilities. * > > > True, that's probably the only reason I'm reserving judgement on > > Contador until we get a flat ITT and we see how he does against > > Kloden. > > > In spite of all the "affairs" I'd kept my interest in cycling at a > > high level but if we get another LA clone for the next 5 years (i.e. > > better than everyone, everywhere) I'm giving up. For a start it's just > > not "human" and secondly it becomes uninteresting. I hope Bruyneel > > gets caught once and for all. > > Dumbass - > > You've got your head up your ass. It would be more abnormal for > cycling to have parity. It's normal for there to be a dominant talent. > > Before LANCE, there was Indurain. Before Indurain, Hinault. Before > Hinault, there was Merckx (TIOOYK). Before Merckx, there was Coppi. > > thanks, > > K. Gringioni.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - No, before Merckx it was Rick Van Looy. |
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24-05.-2008, 03:24 PM
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Re: Contador can ITT ?
On May 23, 12:34 am, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> In spite of all the "affairs" I'd kept my interest in cycling at a > >> high level but if we get another LA clone for the next 5 years (i.e. > >> better than everyone, everywhere) I'm giving up. For a start it's just > >> not "human" and secondly it becomes uninteresting. I hope Bruyneel > >> gets caught once and for all. > > >Dumbass - > > >You've got your head up your ass. It would be more abnormal for > >cycling to have parity. It's normal for there to be a dominant talent. > > >Before LANCE, there was Indurain. Before Indurain, Hinault. Before > >Hinault, there was Merckx (TIOOYK). Before Merckx, there was Coppi. > > Numbnuts - > What changed with LA is that he trashed the competition EVERYWHERE, > ITT, Mountains for 7 YEARS and bonked only once (Joux Plane 2000), > champs like Merckx, Hinault or Fignon could only do that for one or > two years when they peaked. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vb1EYB-VzVI |
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24-05.-2008, 11:42 PM
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Re: Contador can ITT ?
On May 23, 2:10 pm, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 22, 11:42 pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 22, 4:17 am, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote: > > > > >> Moreover, when Contador was w/ Seguros, he won the ITT in the 2005 Vuelta > > > >> al País Vasco while "only" taking 3rd overall. Perhaps one could make the > > > >> conclusion (if one were to base one's conclusions about a racer soley on > > > >> race results) that Contador was a good ITTer and lost that race because of > > > >> his lack of climbing skills. > > > > >In addition the 2nd half involved lots of climbing. Simoni did well too, > > > >and he's not exactly renowned dor his TT abilities. > > > > True, that's probably the only reason I'm reserving judgement on > > > Contador until we get a flat ITT and we see how he does against > > > Kloden. > > > > In spite of all the "affairs" I'd kept my interest in cycling at a > > > high level but if we get another LA clone for the next 5 years (i.e. > > > better than everyone, everywhere) I'm giving up. For a start it's just > > > not "human" and secondly it becomes uninteresting. I hope Bruyneel > > > gets caught once and for all. > > > Dumbass - > > > You've got your head up your ass. It would be more abnormal for > > cycling to have parity. It's normal for there to be a dominant talent. > > > Before LANCE, there was Indurain. Before Indurain, Hinault. Before > > Hinault, there was Merckx (TIOOYK). Before Merckx, there was Coppi. > > > thanks, > > > K. Gringioni.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > No, before Merckx it was Rick Van Looy. Right, Rik II won as many Grand Tours as I have. Coppi may have been the most naturally talented cyclist ever, Merckx not withstanding. |
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24-05.-2008, 11:48 PM
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Re: Contador can ITT ?
On May 24, 2:24 am, zzfrank...@mac.com wrote:
> On May 23, 12:34 am, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote: > > > > > >> In spite of all the "affairs" I'd kept my interest in cycling at a > > >> high level but if we get another LA clone for the next 5 years (i.e. > > >> better than everyone, everywhere) I'm giving up. For a start it's just > > >> not "human" and secondly it becomes uninteresting. I hope Bruyneel > > >> gets caught once and for all. > > > >Dumbass - > > > >You've got your head up your ass. It would be more abnormal for > > >cycling to have parity. It's normal for there to be a dominant talent. > > > >Before LANCE, there was Indurain. Before Indurain, Hinault. Before > > >Hinault, there was Merckx (TIOOYK). Before Merckx, there was Coppi. > > > Numbnuts - > > What changed with LA is that he trashed the competition EVERYWHERE, > > ITT, Mountains for 7 YEARS and bonked only once (Joux Plane 2000), > > champs like Merckx, Hinault or Fignon could only do that for one or > > two years when they peaked. > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vb1EYB-VzVI It's strange see this now-- LA laboring like a non-TT piker. |
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