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Would you like the Govt to promote biking?

 
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Old 22-05.-2008, 07:52 AM   #16
ComandanteBanana
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Default Re: the dumb cyclists are smarter

On May 21, 2:28*pm, DennisTheBald <DennisTheB...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 20, 9:28 pm, "Jack May" <jack....@comcast.net> wrote:
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> > "ComandanteBanana" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> >news:c7be4569-824d-4fec-9fd2-bd941989cc6e@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

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> > > You know biking must be very low on their priority when you are honked
> > > at, yelled at, pushed around and even spit at for doing the right
> > > thing and riding a bike.

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> > > It could be another way, you know. Like cyclists getting respect --and
> > > even admiration-- if one of our presidents spoke thus...

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> > > "My fellow Americans, in light of scarce oil as well as the threat of
> > > Terrorism and Global Warming, the days of the hungry dinosaurs are
> > > over. Yes, no more SUVs, starting with my own. Instead, we will go
> > > back to the smartest, cleanest and simplest vehicle ever created: the
> > > bike. You shouldn't look at it though as a sacrifice, but as the means
> > > to enjoy more free time. Yes, you won't to work your life away to keep
> > > a Stupid Unnecessry Vehicle. And to top if off, you can be as sexy as
> > > me..."

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> > > And then the President rides off in his lycra suit... Well, the last
> > > part may not be such a great idea, but the rest is. So do you agree
> > > that the goverment can do more, far more, to make bicycling part of
> > > the American landscape?

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> > > Here's what I would do if I ever were president...

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> > You are even dumber than Bush and would make a horrible President.

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> > His adviser will at least tell him that having everybody ride a bike will
> > both increase the consumption of oil to grow more food and will cause even
> > more problems than already exist in the world food supply.

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> OMG! Somebody is certainly even dumber than Bush...
> I suspect it's the moron that thinks there is a net energy savings in
> using a 3/4 truck to haul his ass to the office rather than a
> bicycle. *I'll bet part of your calculation is to include the energy
> it takes to deliver the snickers bar to the grocery store and you
> think that there is a pipeline bringing the gallon of Esso to the
> corner gas station. *You need to give up the pipe there, Jack.- Hide quoted text -
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Or maybe they are not even dumb, but playing dumb.

They think though that by getting away with evil they are smarter than
the rest, and they are just planting the seeds of their own undoing.

In the end, the dumb cyclists are smarter.
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Old 22-05.-2008, 08:16 AM   #17
ComandanteBanana
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Default Re: Would you like the Govt to promote biking?

(Someone has the happy idea to compare road safety with work safety)

QUOTE(datako @ May 21 2008, 03:54 PM)
"All the government has to do is to apply the same health and safety
thinking it requires of workplaces to road users.

Imagine in a workplace having a 1,000 kilo object travelling at 100km/
h and capable of random direction passing within 50cm of a person. It
would be banned or required to slow down and leave a larger margin of
distance.

Roads should be safe for all vulnerable users."


That's a good metaphor. Actually conditions on the roads for cyclists
must be as appalling as the meat industry was when the book 'The
Jungle' saw the light 100 years ago...

'Although Sinclair originally meant for his novel to focus on
industrial labor and working conditions, food safety became the most
pressing issue. Sinclair's account of workers falling into meat
processing tanks and being ground, along with animal parts, into
"Durham's Pure Leaf Lard", gripped public attention.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jungle


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Old 23-05.-2008, 09:46 AM   #18
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Default Re: Would you like the Govt to promote biking?

On May 21, 7:16 pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> (Someone has the happy idea to compare road safety with work safety)
>
> QUOTE(datako @ May 21 2008, 03:54 PM)
> "All the government has to do is to apply the same health and safety
> thinking it requires of workplaces to road users.
>
> Imagine in a workplace having a 1,000 kilo object travelling at 100km/
> h and capable of random direction passing within 50cm of a person. It
> would be banned or required to slow down and leave a larger margin of
> distance.
>
> Roads should be safe for all vulnerable users."
>
> That's a good metaphor. Actually conditions on the roads for cyclists
> must be as appalling as the meat industry was when the book 'The
> Jungle' saw the light 100 years ago...
>
> 'Although Sinclair originally meant for his novel to focus on
> industrial labor and working conditions, food safety became the most
> pressing issue. Sinclair's account of workers falling into meat
> processing tanks and being ground, along with animal parts, into
> "Durham's Pure Leaf Lard", gripped public attention.'
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jungle


Read The Omnivore's Dilemma by Pollan. We have only substituted one
set of a problems for another. I, for one, would just as soon have
the old jungle.

R
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Old 23-05.-2008, 11:09 PM   #19
ComandanteBanana
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Default Re: Would you like the Govt to promote biking?

On May 22, 8:46*pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> On May 21, 7:16 pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> > (Someone has the happy idea to compare road safety with work safety)

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> > QUOTE(datako @ May 21 2008, 03:54 PM)
> > "All the government has to do is to apply the same health and safety
> > thinking it requires of workplaces to road users.

>
> > Imagine in a workplace having a 1,000 kilo object travelling at 100km/
> > h and capable of random direction passing within 50cm of a person. It
> > would be banned or required to slow down and leave a larger margin of
> > distance.

>
> > Roads should be safe for all vulnerable users."

>
> > That's a good metaphor. Actually conditions on the roads for cyclists
> > must be as appalling as the meat industry was when the book 'The
> > Jungle' saw the light 100 years ago...

>
> > 'Although Sinclair originally meant for his novel to focus on
> > industrial labor and working conditions, food safety became the most
> > pressing issue. Sinclair's account of workers falling into meat
> > processing tanks and being ground, along with animal parts, into
> > "Durham's Pure Leaf Lard", gripped public attention.'

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> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jungle

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> Read The Omnivore's Dilemma by Pollan. *We have only substituted one
> set of a problems for another. *I, for one, would just as soon have
> the old jungle.
>


Let me quote from a review...

"he creates the ground work for a fairly simple conclusion -
industrial scale food production, whether organic or non, is a
failure, a disaster for those who care about ethics or the
environment. In a way, it doesn't matter whether what you care about
is the suffering of animals (industrial slaughter) or the suffering of
humans (malnutrition), the extermination of songbirds (pesticides) or
rising cancer rates (pesticides) or the extermination of everyone due
to global warming, the conclusion that Pollan expertly and gracefully
leads us to - ie, that many more people need to take a role in their
own food systems, both by buying locally, encouraging the creation of
millions of new small farms instead of an expanding industrial system,
and by growing some of their own (or hunting it, or foraging)..."

http://www.amazon.com/Omnivores-Dil...s/dp/1594200823

And it is here that the bicycle is so fitting. Buying locally, biking
locally. We've got two bikes with huge baskets that we use to go to
the supermarket. Regrettably, it ain't Whole Foods, so we can only
pick and choose a few products. I still eat meat and drink diet Coke,
but maybe we should be ready to give them up after the
revolution...

Oh, there's a Farmers Market in the other direction, so I promise to
check it out Saturday.
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