Cycling, the dirtiest sport???

Dumbass

On May 30, 1:31*am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
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> On May 29, 7:08*pm, SLAVE of THE STATE <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
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> > On May 29, 8:08*pm, jean-yves hervé <j...@cs.uri.edu> wrote:
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> > > In article
> > > <79e66f46-7718-4663-951b-cf8692ea7...@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
> > > *SLAVE of THE STATE <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
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> > > > On May 29, 10:52*am, jean-yves hervé <j...@cs.uri.edu> wrote:
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> > > > > <73c82ca9-0adc-48be-a37f-8fc51315d...@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
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> > > > > *Dumbass <tadams...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Tom Simpson's death might explain why cycling has been singled out for
> > > > > > more testing. *Are there any high profile deaths in US pro sports
> > > > > > linked to performance enhancing drugs? *I can't think of one.
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> > > > > It depends what you want to call "high-profile". * If by that you mean a
> > > > > world-class athlete who died during a competition of causes generally
> > > > > attributed to drugs, then the answer is no. *But then Simpson isthe
> > > > > only case in cycling, and it happened in 1967. *If you relax the
> > > > > definition a bit to admit good or not so good pros who died out of
> > > > > competition with drugs rumored to be a factor, then cycling has Bert
> > > > > Oosterbosch and the young Belgian/Dutch sudden death epidemics of the
> > > > > late 80s to early nineties. *But in that case, we should probably take a
> > > > > harder look at the cases of these fat young football and baseball
> > > > > neo-pros who die every other spring & summer during MLB & NFL training
> > > > > camps, seemingly due to previously undetected "heart defects" and heat
> > > > > exhaustion. *I will leave it to Magilla to tell us what to thinkof
> > > > > these accidents.
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> > > > There was some fat young MLB pitcher who died in spring training on a
> > > > hot Florida day and they say he had taken ephedrine. *This was within
> > > > the past ten years, IIRC.
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> > > It's a bit pathetic to take ephedrine during a training camp, no? *Isn't
> > > the stuff supposed to have pretty immediate effects? *And I thought that
> > > it could produce hand tremors, which might make it a bad idea for a
> > > pitcher (I imagine). *Maybe he was taking it as a fat burner rather than
> > > a performance enhancer?
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> > Weight loss would be my assumption to, although maybe he thought he
> > could train a little harder and snap in to aerobic shape a bit
> > quicker, even if all the weight loss would take a bit more time. *I'm
> > sure simple and immediate effect was the goal (not the one he actually
> > got).
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> > I doubt it was performance based as far as making the team goes. *It
> > has been a long time... maybe I remember it was right at the beginning
> > of spring training, and his starting condition was very poor, and so
> > ephedrine combined with the weather, poor hydration, and hot weather
> > was a very stressful set of circumstances.
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> The guy you're thinking of is Steve Bechler.
> <http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...-bechlerstories,
> 0,1513479.storygallery>
> <http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ba...ews/2003/02/18/
> bechler_investigate/index.html?cnn=yes>
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> There was an NFL player named Korey Stringer
> who died under similar circumstances, after which
> the NFL banned ephedra.
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> Every year, a handful of high school and college
> players also drop dead from heatstroke. *I don't
> know the relative contribution of supplements vs.
> dumbass coaches in that category.
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> "Dumbass" who couldn't think of deaths attributed
> to PEDs has forgotten Flo-Jo.
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Flo jo had a congenital brain defect, makes you wonder if this whole
doping witch hunt is based on inaccurate attributions of cause of
death. They use to limit water intake during the tdf back when Tom
Simpson died of dehydration with a bit of speed in his blood. If he
had drank water freely that day and avoided alcohol, we would probably
not have this doping witch hunt in cycling.

"On September 21, 1998, Griffith-Joyner died in her sleep. On October
22, the sheriff-coroner's office (required to investigate unexpected
deaths) announced the cause of death as: "1) positional asphyxia 2)
epileptiform seizure 3) cavernous angioma, left orbital frontal
cerebrum".[1]

The cavernous angioma referred to a brain abnormality discovered
during the autopsy that made Joyner subject to seizures. It was a
congenital defect, having developed before birth.[2] In 1990 she had,
according to a family attorney, suffered a grand mal seizure and had
been treated for seizures in 1990, 1993 and 1994.

The direct cause of death was that she had suffocated in her pillow
during a severe epileptic seizure."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Griffith_Joyner