Re: What did he do that for!?

Toby Sleigh

"Tom Crispin" <kije.remove@this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> wrote in message
news:4d7m24tg6dqh0rob09gb5cfsskcudotihn@4ax.com...
>I have heard from a friend that Boris Johnson walked into On Your Bike
> in Tooley Street today and bought a h*lm*t.
>
Boris gets a good telling off by Giles Coren today

"Boris Johnson has blown it already
The Mayor should never, ever, have agreed to wear a cycling helmet. Doesn't
he get why?"
Complete article here;
http://tinyurl.com/3v5oy8

Just zis Guy, you know?

On Sat, 17 May 2008 09:10:59 +0100, "Toby Sleigh"
<toby.sleigh@gmail.com> said in <8NydnXGSH6iQDrPVRVnygwA@bt.com>:

>
>"Boris Johnson has blown it already
>The Mayor should never, ever, have agreed to wear a cycling helmet. Doesn't
>he get why?"
>Complete article here;
>http://tinyurl.com/3v5oy8

Cracking read :-) Misses the point a bit (since plastic hats are
not a defence against the feared consequences, and cycling is not
actually dangerous anyway), but spot on in that outright defiance is
the best response to handwringers and nannies.

Guy
--
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85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

Nick Kew

On Sat, 17 May 2008 15:11:58 +0100
"Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote:

> On Sat, 17 May 2008 09:10:59 +0100, "Toby Sleigh"
> <toby.sleigh@gmail.com> said in <8NydnXGSH6iQDrPVRVnygwA@bt.com>:
>
> >
> >"Boris Johnson has blown it already
> >The Mayor should never, ever, have agreed to wear a cycling helmet.
> >Doesn't he get why?"
> >Complete article here;
> >http://tinyurl.com/3v5oy8
>
> Cracking read :-) Misses the point a bit (since plastic hats are
> not a defence against the feared consequences, and cycling is not
> actually dangerous anyway), but spot on in that outright defiance is
> the best response to handwringers and nannies.

Um, doesn't miss the point at all. He's making a point that
is neither pro- nor anti- cyclehelmets as such: they're just
a hook to hang a little rant on. And as a high-flyin' London
journo, he presumably knows Boris. Looks like a bit of a
ribbing, and doubtless has an "in-joke" layer that's
obscure to ordinary folks like us.

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Sir Jeremy

On 17 May, 15:11, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <u...@ftc.gov> wrote:
> On Sat, 17 May 2008 09:10:59 +0100, "Toby Sleigh"
> <toby.sle...@gmail.com> said in <8NydnXGSH6iQDrPVRVny...@bt.com>:
>
>
>
> >"Boris Johnson has blown it already
> >The Mayor should never, ever, have agreed to wear a cycling helmet. Doesn't
> >he get why?"
> >Complete article here;
> >http://tinyurl.com/3v5oy8
>
> Cracking read :-) *Misses the point a bit (since plastic hats are
> not a defence against the feared consequences, and cycling is not
> actually dangerous anyway), but spot on in that outright defiance is
> the best response to handwringers and nannies.
>
> Guy
> --
> May contain traces of irony. *Contents liable to settle after posting.http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
>
> 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound


Quite agree, which is why I ignore the motorway speed limit

Just zis Guy, you know?

On Sun, 18 May 2008 14:56:53 -0700 (PDT), Sir Jeremy
<pete.aron@virgin.net> said in
<972ebf40-71cf-44b5-8490-63c3dd2a05d8@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>:

>Quite agree, which is why I ignore the motorway speed limit

Your sociopathic response to laws limiting the danger you pose to
others has no obvious relevance to handwringers demanding illusory
protection against a not terribly significant risk.

Guy
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85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

JNugent

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

> Sir Jeremy <pete.aron@virgin.net>:

>> Quite agree, which is why I ignore the motorway speed limit

> Your sociopathic response to laws limiting the danger you pose to
> others has no obvious relevance to handwringers demanding illusory
> protection against a not terribly significant risk.

That reminds me of the judge's remarks (quoted in "What The Papers
Didn't Mean To Say" ed. Fritz Spiegl; Scouser Press 1965):

"I think it inexcusable it was not said this clothing had no trace of
petrol on it. I hope this practice of not mentioning negative findings
is not common and will never be repeated".

Sir Jeremy

On 19 May, 19:16, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <u...@ftc.gov> wrote:
> On Sun, 18 May 2008 14:56:53 -0700 (PDT), Sir Jeremy
> <pete.a...@virgin.net> said in
> <972ebf40-71cf-44b5-8490-63c3dd2a0...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >Quite agree, which is why I ignore the motorway speed limit
>
> Your sociopathic response to laws limiting the danger you pose to
> others has no obvious relevance to handwringers demanding illusory
> protection against a not terribly significant risk.
>
> Guy
> --
> May contain traces of irony. *Contents liable to settle after posting.http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
>
> 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound


Ironic really isn't it?

You and Spindrift can probably dig up some bogus statistic to show
that I (and just about everyone else on Britains motorways) are
putting millions of lives at risk by travelling at illegal (>70mph)
speeds. Yet there's no political will to do much about us.

On the other hand there's growing political will to impose helmets on
cyclists and your bleatings will no difference at all.

Just zis Guy, you know?

On Mon, 19 May 2008 14:36:57 -0700 (PDT), Sir Jeremy
<pete.aron@virgin.net> said in
<bd90611f-3f31-40ed-ba23-8d4e848fc424@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:

>> Your sociopathic response to laws limiting the danger you pose to
>> others has no obvious relevance to handwringers demanding illusory
>> protection against a not terribly significant risk.

> You and Spindrift can probably dig up some bogus statistic to show
>that I (and just about everyone else on Britains motorways) are
>putting millions of lives at risk by travelling at illegal (>70mph)
>speeds. Yet there's no political will to do much about us.

Not sure what the supposed relevance of that comment is. The link
between speed and both risk and severity of collisions is well
established.

>On the other hand there's growing political will to impose helmets on
>cyclists and your bleatings will no difference at all.

No, not really. The political will is at least as lacking now as it
has ever been. The 1980s and early 1990s was the peak time for
that, the present Government has repeatedly made it clear that it
does not view it as a productive subject for legislation. A few
(mainly non-cycling) zealots does not amount to anything much, other
than a continued nuisance.

Ever seen a picture of Britain's leading helmet promoter?

http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/wiki/Angela_Lee

Guy
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85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

Sir Jeremy

On 20 May, 23:23, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <u...@ftc.gov> wrote:
> On Mon, 19 May 2008 14:36:57 -0700 (PDT), Sir Jeremy
> <pete.a...@virgin.net> said in
> <bd90611f-3f31-40ed-ba23-8d4e848fc...@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >> Your sociopathic response to laws limiting the danger you pose to
> >> others has no obvious relevance to handwringers demanding illusory
> >> protection against a not terribly significant risk.
> > You and Spindrift can probably dig up some bogus statistic to show
> >that I (and just about everyone else on Britains motorways) are
> >putting millions of lives at risk by travelling at illegal (>70mph)
> >speeds. Yet there's no political will to do much about us.
>
> Not sure what the supposed relevance of that comment is. *The link
> between speed and both risk and severity of collisions is well
> established.
>
> >On the other hand there's growing political will to impose helmets on
> >cyclists and your bleatings will no difference at all.
>
> No, not really. *The political will is at least as lacking now as it
> has ever been. *The 1980s and early 1990s was the peak time for
> that, the present Government has repeatedly made it clear that it
> does not view it as a productive subject for legislation. *A few
> (mainly non-cycling) zealots does not amount to anything much, other
> than a continued nuisance.
>
> Ever seen a picture of Britain's leading helmet promoter?
>
> http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/wiki/Angela_Lee
>

One shouldn't laugh, she is doubtless a nice lady and very sincere

Just zis Guy, you know?

On Wed, 21 May 2008 05:43:45 -0700 (PDT), Sir Jeremy
<pete.aron@virgin.net> said in
<1c9da9e8-8fe1-4440-bbd1-2d0bff4f4105@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:

>> http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/wiki/Angela_Lee
>One shouldn't laugh, she is doubtless a nice lady and very sincere

Sincere, for sure, but a lot of people have called her vicious and
ruthless - and not the cycling crowd, either, families she's tried
to coerce into acting as poster children.

Guy
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85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

burtthebike

"Sir Jeremy" <pete.aron@virgin.net> wrote in message
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On 20 May, 23:23, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <u...@ftc.gov> wrote:
> On Mon, 19 May 2008 14:36:57 -0700 (PDT), Sir Jeremy
> <pete.a...@virgin.net> said in
> <bd90611f-3f31-40ed-ba23-8d4e848fc...@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>
>
> Ever seen a picture of Britain's leading helmet promoter?
>
> http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/wiki/Angela_Lee
>

One shouldn't laugh, she is doubtless a nice lady and very sincere

Roads to hell are paved with do-gooder intentions.

Dave Larrington

In news:UrZYj.29871$ie5.14536@newsfe05.ams2,
burtthebike <burtthebike@blueyonder.co.uk> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to
tell us:
> "Sir Jeremy" <pete.aron@virgin.net> wrote in message
> news:1c9da9e8-8fe1-4440-bbd1-2d0bff4f4105@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On 20 May, 23:23, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <u...@ftc.gov> wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 May 2008 14:36:57 -0700 (PDT), Sir Jeremy
>> <pete.a...@virgin.net> said in
>> <bd90611f-3f31-40ed-ba23-8d4e848fc...@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>>
>>
>> Ever seen a picture of Britain's leading helmet promoter?
>>
>> http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/wiki/Angela_Lee
>>
>
> One shouldn't laugh, she is doubtless a nice lady and very sincere

I'm sure $DICTATOR was very nice and sincere too, as long as one happened to
agree with him.

Do you see what I did there? Eh? EH??

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Mark

On Thu, 22 May 2008 08:47:25 +0100, "Dave Larrington"
<smert.spamionam@privacy.net> wrote:

>In news:UrZYj.29871$ie5.14536@newsfe05.ams2,
>burtthebike <burtthebike@blueyonder.co.uk> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to
>tell us:
>> "Sir Jeremy" <pete.aron@virgin.net> wrote in message
>> news:1c9da9e8-8fe1-4440-bbd1-2d0bff4f4105@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>> On 20 May, 23:23, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <u...@ftc.gov> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 19 May 2008 14:36:57 -0700 (PDT), Sir Jeremy
>>> <pete.a...@virgin.net> said in
>>> <bd90611f-3f31-40ed-ba23-8d4e848fc...@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>> Ever seen a picture of Britain's leading helmet promoter?
>>>
>>> http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/wiki/Angela_Lee
>>>
>>
>> One shouldn't laugh, she is doubtless a nice lady and very sincere
>
>I'm sure $DICTATOR was very nice and sincere too, as long as one happened to
>agree with him.
>
>Do you see what I did there? Eh? EH??

One for the *nix shell script programmers??

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On Thu, 22 May 2008 08:47:25 +0100, "Dave Larrington"
<smert.spamionam@privacy.net> said in
<69kncsF33ciopU1@mid.individual.net>:

>I'm sure $DICTATOR was very nice and sincere too, as long as one happened to
>agree with him.
>
>Do you see what I did there? Eh? EH??

/me has an email from Mike Godwin stashed away somewhere...

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound