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More bikes fewer cars.

 
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Old 22-05.-2008, 02:02 AM   #46
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"Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:69dq9vF32e12kU17@mid.individual.net...
> In article <GKCdnVHZXrv7MKzVRVnyvwA@pipex.net>, JNugent says...
>
>> I think we were thinking of private car (commuting) mpg, but what you
>> describe sounds like an absolutely wonderful idea.
>>

> Could work. Get everyone to shove a quid in a pot and he who has the
> best, wins the pot.


Better still he who can drop there average the most over one week. Getting
lower MPG is almost always more fun round here.


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Old 22-05.-2008, 02:08 AM   #47
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"Depresion" <127.0.0.1> writes:

> "Zog The Undeniable" <hrothgar19@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:g0m42k$1g7k$1@energise.enta.net...
>>
>> The big problem is that we've become used to long commutes which are
>> impossible by bike.

>
> Yes, bikes are clearly not the answer.


They might be when you add an engine giving you better economy and
traffic-busting abilities than anything on four wheels.

Jon
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Old 22-05.-2008, 02:56 AM   #48
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 17:55:12 +0100, "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote:

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>"Peter Grange" <peter@plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:lhu034p0qfv7n1oug069lg6r1chbehvs60@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:36:48 -0700 (PDT), TimB <timburford@onetel.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Still doesn't get me to work 28 miles away in a decent amount of time..
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Conor
>>>>
>>>> I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
>>>> looking good either. - Scott Adams
>>>
>>>That's because you either live or work in the wrong place.

>>
>> That's not always the answer. I do short term contract work in
>> different places. My last contract was about 35 miles east of my home.
>> My current contract is for 5 weeks, and is about 15 miles SW. Should I
>> move house for each contract? (Replies saying "Yes" and signed "Gordon
>> Brown" or "Alistair Darling" will be ignored ).

>
>OK, yes.
>
>Mr E. Stateagent
>

Ah, forgot about him. Mr S O Licitor might be someone else to ignore.

Pete
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Old 22-05.-2008, 02:57 AM   #49
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On May 18, 12:24*pm, N...@wodger.demon.co.uk (Roger Merriman) wrote:
> Tony Dragon <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > Doug wrote:
> > > On 17 May, 22:16, Nick Finnigan <n...@genie.co.uk> wrote:
> > >> John Kane wrote:
> > >>> On May 17, 4:11 am, Zog The Undeniable <hrothga...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>>> The big problem is that we've become used to long commutes which are
> > >>>> impossible by bike. *Half our office comes in from 40 miles away
> > >>> But what's the distance for the rest? *You may have 50% of your office
> > >>> within practical commuting distance.
> > >>> I surprised myself a while ago when I looked up some commuting stats
> > >>> for Canada (where we have *some looong distances) *A bit over 60% of
> > >>> all Canadians had a one way commute of less than 10km.
> > >>>http://ca.geocities.com/jrkrideau/cycling/commute.png
> > >>> I wonder what the UK figures are?
> > >> * Average commute distance 8.7 miles, the break down may well be similar.

>
> > > No problem on a bike.

>
> > > --
> > > UK Radical Campaigns
> > >www.zing.icom43.net
> > > It takes about 10 acres to feed a car on ethanol for a year.
> > > The world supply of grainland is about three-tenths of an acre per
> > > person.

>
> > That would depend on the terrain & the user, but for most it should be
> > no problem.

>
> sure if one is a cyclist, but may well not be any faster than other
> forms, particaly if count changing time etc, 10 miles or close to at
> least, is getting on to the needing to be keen cyclist.
>
> as is the way of averages most are likely to have shorter journeys look
> at average wages for comparison only the Mean would give a better idea.


My Canadian figures are median figures. A very large proportion of
the commutes are well under 5 km.

John Kane Kingston ON Canada
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Old 22-05.-2008, 03:02 AM   #50
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On May 18, 6:42*am, JNugent <J...@NPPTG.com> wrote:
> Nick Finnigan wrote:
> > John Kane wrote:
> >> On May 17, 4:11 am, Zog The Undeniable <hrothga...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> >>> The big problem is that we've become used to long commutes which are
> >>> impossible by bike. *Half our office comes in from 40 miles away

>
> >> But what's the distance for the rest? *You may have 50% of your office
> >> within practical commuting distance.

>
> >> I surprised myself a while ago when I looked up some commuting stats
> >> for Canada (where we have *some looong distances) *A bit over 60% of
> >> all Canadians had a one way commute of less than 10km.
> >>http://ca.geocities.com/jrkrideau/cycling/commute.png

>
> >> I wonder what the UK figures are?

>
> > *Average commute distance 8.7 miles, the break down may well be similar.

>
> Is that "average" the mode, the mean or the median?


Median based on Stattistics Canada figures. A large proportion of the
commutes under 10 km are under 5km (see graph).

John Kane Kingston ON Canada
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Old 22-05.-2008, 03:08 AM   #51
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On May 21, 12:56*pm, "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote:
> "Zog The Undeniable" <hrothga...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:g0m42k$1g7k$1@energise.enta.net...
>
>
>
> > The big problem is that we've become used to long commutes which are
> > impossible by bike.

>
> Yes, bikes are clearly not the answer.


Well for commuting from London to Paris you're probably right. Of
course how many people do this?

John Kane Kingston ON Canada
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