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20-05.-2008, 10:44 PM
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Re: Red lights jumping - interesting survey
Ian Smith wrote:
> ["Followup-To:" header set to uk.rec.cycling.] > On Tue, 20 May 2008, Brimstone <brimstone520-ng02@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> Squashme wrote: >>> >>> Speed killed. >> >> No it didn't. If it did he would have died even if the boat stayed >> on the surface of the water in its normal fashion. > > Yeah, yeah. > > And jumping off a tall building doesn't kill, it's only the stopping > abruptly at the bottom that does that. > > Cutting someone's throat won't kill them either - it's interrupting > the blood and consequently oxygen flow to the brain that does that. > > Do you really think that these sort of assertions are sensible? > If a simple statement of fact isn't sensible what is? |
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21-05.-2008, 03:00 AM
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Re: Red lights jumping - interesting survey
On 20 May, 08:39, PeterG <petergra...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On May 20, 8:29 am,Squashme<squas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 19 May, 23:49, PeterG <petergra...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > On May 19, 11:38 pm,Squashme<squas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 19 May, 19:30, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > Squashmewrote: > > > > > > On 19 May, 19:09, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > >> Squashmewrote: > > > > > >>> On 19 May, 08:29, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > >>>> Squashmewrote: > > > > > >>>>> On 18 May, 20:44, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>> Squashmewrote: > > > > > >>>>>>> On 18 May, 20:17, Conor <conor_tur...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>> In article <66c96bc7-16bc-4851-b9d6- > > > > > >>>>>>>> 675460064...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,Squashmesays... > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Does speed kill? > > > > > > >>>>>>>> About 3 hours ago I topped 100MPH on a NSL SC B road in a21 > > > > > >>>>>>>> year old car. > > > > > >>>>>>>> In a fortnight I expect to top 90MPH in flat out acceleration > > > > > >>>>>>>> testing at least 3 times in one morning. I expect to be posting > > > > > >>>>>>>> that evening. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Richard Hammond crashed at 288MPH but managed to complete > > > > > >>>>>>>> another series of Top Gear. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> So I guess that's answered that question. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> -- > > > > > > >>>>>>> Nobody dies, until they do. > > > > > > >>>>>> So the answer to your earlier question ("Does speed kill?")is > > > > > >>>>>> "No", isn't it? > > > > > > >>>>> Ummm, certainly would be, if you would have accepted that speed > > > > > >>>>> does kill, if Richard Hammond had died. Like Donald Campbelldid. > > > > > > >>>> Except that in neither case was the speed of the vehicle the cause > > > > > >>>> of the incident. > > > > > > >>> If Campbell had crashed at a much slower speed, in all probability > > > > > >>> he would not have been in the soup. > > > > > > >> So what, speed was not the cause of the crash whereas it was the > > > > > >> reason for the run. > > > > > > > Crashing at high speed killed him. > > > > > > So what? > > > > > Speed killed. > > > > You are Ysätters-Kajsa AICMFP > > > "Is your name Conrad?" "No." "Is your name Harry?" "No." "Is your name > > perhaps, Rumpelstiltskin?" > > "Some demon has told you that, some demon has told you that!" screamed > > the little man, and in his rage drove his right foot so far into the > > ground that it sank in up to his waist; then in a passion he seized > > the left foot with both hands and tore himself in two. > > > Straw or gold, that's all I can offer you. > > Does that mean I don't get my five pounds? > Worse than that. I get your firstborn. |
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21-05.-2008, 03:31 AM
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Re: Red lights jumping - interesting survey
On 20 May, 09:06, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Squashme wrote: > > On 19 May, 19:30, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> Squashmewrote: > >>> On 19 May, 19:09, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >>>> Squashmewrote: > >>>>> On 19 May, 08:29, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> Squashmewrote: > >>>>>>> On 18 May, 20:44, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> Squashmewrote: > >>>>>>>>> On 18 May, 20:17, Conor <conor_tur...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> In article <66c96bc7-16bc-4851-b9d6- > >>>>>>>>>> 675460064...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,Squashmesays... > > >>>>>>>>>>> Does speed kill? > > >>>>>>>>>> About 3 hours ago I topped 100MPH on a NSL SC B road in a 21 > >>>>>>>>>> year old car. > >>>>>>>>>> In a fortnight I expect to top 90MPH in flat out acceleration > >>>>>>>>>> testing at least 3 times in one morning. I expect to be > >>>>>>>>>> posting that evening. > > >>>>>>>>>> Richard Hammond crashed at 288MPH but managed to complete > >>>>>>>>>> another series of Top Gear. > > >>>>>>>>>> So I guess that's answered that question. > > >>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>> Nobody dies, until they do. > > >>>>>>>> So the answer to your earlier question ("Does speed kill?") is > >>>>>>>> "No", isn't it? > > >>>>>>> Ummm, certainly would be, if you would have accepted that speed > >>>>>>> does kill, if Richard Hammond had died. Like Donald Campbell > >>>>>>> did. > > >>>>>> Except that in neither case was the speed of the vehicle the > >>>>>> cause of the incident. > > >>>>> If Campbell had crashed at a much slower speed, in all probability > >>>>> he would not have been in the soup. > > >>>> So what, speed was not the cause of the crash whereas it was the > >>>> reason for the run. > > >>> Crashing at high speed killed him. > > >> So what? > > > Speed killed. > > No it didn't. If it did he would have died even if the boat stayed on the > surface of the water in its normal fashion. Yes it does. If it didn't, he would have died in the accident, even if the boat had been travelling at 10mph. |
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21-05.-2008, 03:57 AM
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Re: Red lights jumping - interesting survey
Squashme <squashme@gmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying: >> > Speed killed. >> No it didn't. If it did he would have died even if the boat stayed on >> the surface of the water in its normal fashion. > Yes it does. If it didn't, he would have died in the accident, even if > the boat had been travelling at 10mph. You're missing the rather relevant point that he'd have survived at that speed, if there hadn't BEEN a crash. He already HAD survived one run at that speed. |
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21-05.-2008, 03:57 AM
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Re: Red lights jumping - interesting survey
On May 20, 6:00 pm, Squashme <squas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 20 May, 08:39, PeterG <petergra...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > On May 20, 8:29 am,Squashme<squas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 19 May, 23:49, PeterG <petergra...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > On May 19, 11:38 pm,Squashme<squas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 19 May, 19:30, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > Squashmewrote: > > > > > > > On 19 May, 19:09, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > >> Squashmewrote: > > > > > > >>> On 19 May, 08:29, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> Squashmewrote: > > > > > > >>>>> On 18 May, 20:44, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>> Squashmewrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>> On 18 May, 20:17, Conor <conor_tur...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>> In article <66c96bc7-16bc-4851-b9d6- > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 675460064...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,Squashmesays.... > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Does speed kill? > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> About 3 hours ago I topped 100MPH on a NSL SC B road ina 21 > > > > > > >>>>>>>> year old car. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> In a fortnight I expect to top 90MPH in flat out acceleration > > > > > > >>>>>>>> testing at least 3 times in one morning. I expect to beposting > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that evening. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Richard Hammond crashed at 288MPH but managed to complete > > > > > > >>>>>>>> another series of Top Gear. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> So I guess that's answered that question. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> -- > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Nobody dies, until they do. > > > > > > > >>>>>> So the answer to your earlier question ("Does speed kill?") is > > > > > > >>>>>> "No", isn't it? > > > > > > > >>>>> Ummm, certainly would be, if you would have accepted that speed > > > > > > >>>>> does kill, if Richard Hammond had died. Like Donald Campbell did. > > > > > > > >>>> Except that in neither case was the speed of the vehicle the cause > > > > > > >>>> of the incident. > > > > > > > >>> If Campbell had crashed at a much slower speed, in all probability > > > > > > >>> he would not have been in the soup. > > > > > > > >> So what, speed was not the cause of the crash whereas it was the > > > > > > >> reason for the run. > > > > > > > > Crashing at high speed killed him. > > > > > > > So what? > > > > > > Speed killed. > > > > > You are Ysätters-Kajsa AICMFP > > > > "Is your name Conrad?" "No." "Is your name Harry?" "No." "Is your name > > > perhaps, Rumpelstiltskin?" > > > "Some demon has told you that, some demon has told you that!" screamed > > > the little man, and in his rage drove his right foot so far into the > > > ground that it sank in up to his waist; then in a passion he seized > > > the left foot with both hands and tore himself in two. > > > > Straw or gold, that's all I can offer you. > > > Does that mean I don't get my five pounds? > > Worse than that. I get your firstborn. Oh please come round & collect, it might be a way of feeing up a bedroom. Peter |
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21-05.-2008, 03:58 AM
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Re: Red lights jumping - interesting survey
Squashme wrote:
> On 20 May, 09:06, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> Squashme wrote: >>> On 19 May, 19:30, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> Squashmewrote: >>>>> On 19 May, 19:09, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Squashmewrote: >>>>>>> On 19 May, 08:29, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Squashmewrote: >>>>>>>>> On 18 May, 20:44, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Squashmewrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 18 May, 20:17, Conor <conor_tur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> In article <66c96bc7-16bc-4851-b9d6- >>>>>>>>>>>> 675460064...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,Squashmesays... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Does speed kill? >> >>>>>>>>>>>> About 3 hours ago I topped 100MPH on a NSL SC B road in a >>>>>>>>>>>> 21 year old car. >>>>>>>>>>>> In a fortnight I expect to top 90MPH in flat out >>>>>>>>>>>> acceleration testing at least 3 times in one morning. I >>>>>>>>>>>> expect to be posting that evening. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Hammond crashed at 288MPH but managed to complete >>>>>>>>>>>> another series of Top Gear. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> So I guess that's answered that question. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>>> Nobody dies, until they do. >> >>>>>>>>>> So the answer to your earlier question ("Does speed kill?") >>>>>>>>>> is "No", isn't it? >> >>>>>>>>> Ummm, certainly would be, if you would have accepted that >>>>>>>>> speed does kill, if Richard Hammond had died. Like Donald >>>>>>>>> Campbell did. >> >>>>>>>> Except that in neither case was the speed of the vehicle the >>>>>>>> cause of the incident. >> >>>>>>> If Campbell had crashed at a much slower speed, in all >>>>>>> probability he would not have been in the soup. >> >>>>>> So what, speed was not the cause of the crash whereas it was the >>>>>> reason for the run. >> >>>>> Crashing at high speed killed him. >> >>>> So what? >> >>> Speed killed. >> >> No it didn't. If it did he would have died even if the boat stayed >> on the surface of the water in its normal fashion. > > Yes it does. If it didn't, he would have died in the accident, even if > the boat had been travelling at 10mph. If the boat hadn't hit the floating obstruction (or whatever it was that caused Bluebird to flip) then he would have completed the run and still been alive. Speed does not kill. |
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21-05.-2008, 04:01 AM
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Re: Red lights jumping - interesting survey
On 20 May, 18:57, Adrian <toomany2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Squashme <squas...@gmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they > were saying: > > >> > Speed killed. > >> No it didn't. If it did he would have died even if the boat stayed on > >> the surface of the water in its normal fashion. > > Yes it does. If it didn't, he would have died in the accident, even if > > the boat had been travelling at 10mph. > > You're missing the rather relevant point that he'd have survived at that > speed, if there hadn't BEEN a crash. He already HAD survived one run at > that speed. If there hadn't been a crash, I don't think that we would have been discussing him at all. But there was. |
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21-05.-2008, 04:06 AM
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Re: Red lights jumping - interesting survey
On 20 May, 18:58, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Squashme wrote: > > On 20 May, 09:06, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> Squashme wrote: > >>> On 19 May, 19:30, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >>>> Squashmewrote: > >>>>> On 19 May, 19:09, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> Squashmewrote: > >>>>>>> On 19 May, 08:29, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> Squashmewrote: > >>>>>>>>> On 18 May, 20:44, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Squashmewrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On 18 May, 20:17, Conor <conor_tur...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> In article <66c96bc7-16bc-4851-b9d6- > >>>>>>>>>>>> 675460064...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,Squashmesays... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Does speed kill? > > >>>>>>>>>>>> About 3 hours ago I topped 100MPH on a NSL SC B road in a > >>>>>>>>>>>> 21 year old car. > >>>>>>>>>>>> In a fortnight I expect to top 90MPH in flat out > >>>>>>>>>>>> acceleration testing at least 3 times in one morning. I > >>>>>>>>>>>> expect to be posting that evening. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Hammond crashed at 288MPH but managed to complete > >>>>>>>>>>>> another series of Top Gear. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> So I guess that's answered that question. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>> Nobody dies, until they do. > > >>>>>>>>>> So the answer to your earlier question ("Does speed kill?") > >>>>>>>>>> is "No", isn't it? > > >>>>>>>>> Ummm, certainly would be, if you would have accepted that > >>>>>>>>> speed does kill, if Richard Hammond had died. Like Donald > >>>>>>>>> Campbell did. > > >>>>>>>> Except that in neither case was the speed of the vehicle the > >>>>>>>> cause of the incident. > > >>>>>>> If Campbell had crashed at a much slower speed, in all > >>>>>>> probability he would not have been in the soup. > > >>>>>> So what, speed was not the cause of the crash whereas it was the > >>>>>> reason for the run. > > >>>>> Crashing at high speed killed him. > > >>>> So what? > > >>> Speed killed. > > >> No it didn't. If it did he would have died even if the boat stayed > >> on the surface of the water in its normal fashion. > > > Yes it does. If it didn't, he would have died in the accident, even if > > the boat had been travelling at 10mph. > > If the boat hadn't hit the floating obstruction (or whatever it was that > caused Bluebird to flip) then he would have completed the run and still been > alive. Speed does not kill. If he had hit an obstruction at 10 mph, he would not have flipped. But he did, at over 300mph. And died. You could blame the boat for breaking up, I suppose. |
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21-05.-2008, 04:08 AM
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Re: Red lights jumping - interesting survey
Squashme <squashme@gmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying: >> >> > Speed killed. >> >> No it didn't. If it did he would have died even if the boat stayed >> >> on the surface of the water in its normal fashion. >> > Yes it does. If it didn't, he would have died in the accident, even >> > if the boat had been travelling at 10mph. >> You're missing the rather relevant point that he'd have survived at >> that speed, if there hadn't BEEN a crash. He already HAD survived one >> run at that speed. > If there hadn't been a crash, I don't think that we would have been > discussing him at all. But there was. <shrug> Might as well blame it on painting the boat blue. |
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21-05.-2008, 04:10 AM
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Re: Red lights jumping - interesting survey
"Brimstone" <brimstone520-ng02@yahoo.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying: >> Yes it does. If it didn't, he would have died in the accident, even if >> the boat had been travelling at 10mph. > If the boat hadn't hit the floating obstruction (or whatever it was that > caused Bluebird to flip) They rushed the turn-around, and tried to do the return run before the wake of the previous run had settled. So, in a way, speed was indeed responsible for the crash - but the speed they turned the boat round, not necessarily the speed the boat was travelling at. |
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21-05.-2008, 04:12 AM
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Re: Red lights jumping - interesting survey
On 20 May, 19:08, Adrian <toomany2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Squashme <squas...@gmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they > were saying: > > >> >> > Speed killed. > >> >> No it didn't. If it did he would have died even if the boat stayed > >> >> on the surface of the water in its normal fashion. > >> > Yes it does. If it didn't, he would have died in the accident, even > >> > if the boat had been travelling at 10mph. > >> You're missing the rather relevant point that he'd have survived at > >> that speed, if there hadn't BEEN a crash. He already HAD survived one > >> run at that speed. > > If there hadn't been a crash, I don't think that we would have been > > discussing him at all. But there was. > > <shrug> Might as well blame it on painting the boat blue. If the paint had lead in it, he would have died much, much later, surely. |
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21-05.-2008, 04:18 AM
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Re: Red lights jumping - interesting survey
Squashme wrote:
> On 20 May, 18:58, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> Squashme wrote: >>> On 20 May, 09:06, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> Squashme wrote: >>>>> On 19 May, 19:30, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Squashmewrote: >>>>>>> On 19 May, 19:09, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Squashmewrote: >>>>>>>>> On 19 May, 08:29, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Squashmewrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 18 May, 20:44, "Brimstone" >>>>>>>>>>> <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Squashmewrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 May, 20:17, Conor <conor_tur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <66c96bc7-16bc-4851-b9d6- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 675460064...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,Squashmesays... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does speed kill? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> About 3 hours ago I topped 100MPH on a NSL SC B road in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 21 year old car. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a fortnight I expect to top 90MPH in flat out >>>>>>>>>>>>>> acceleration testing at least 3 times in one morning. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> expect to be posting that evening. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Hammond crashed at 288MPH but managed to complete >>>>>>>>>>>>>> another series of Top Gear. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I guess that's answered that question. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody dies, until they do. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> So the answer to your earlier question ("Does speed kill?") >>>>>>>>>>>> is "No", isn't it? >> >>>>>>>>>>> Ummm, certainly would be, if you would have accepted that >>>>>>>>>>> speed does kill, if Richard Hammond had died. Like Donald >>>>>>>>>>> Campbell did. >> >>>>>>>>>> Except that in neither case was the speed of the vehicle the >>>>>>>>>> cause of the incident. >> >>>>>>>>> If Campbell had crashed at a much slower speed, in all >>>>>>>>> probability he would not have been in the soup. >> >>>>>>>> So what, speed was not the cause of the crash whereas it was >>>>>>>> the reason for the run. >> >>>>>>> Crashing at high speed killed him. >> >>>>>> So what? >> >>>>> Speed killed. >> >>>> No it didn't. If it did he would have died even if the boat stayed >>>> on the surface of the water in its normal fashion. >> >>> Yes it does. If it didn't, he would have died in the accident, even >>> if the boat had been travelling at 10mph. >> >> If the boat hadn't hit the floating obstruction (or whatever it was >> that caused Bluebird to flip) then he would have completed the run >> and still been alive. Speed does not kill. > > If he had hit an obstruction at 10 mph, he would not have flipped. But > he did, at over 300mph. And died. You could blame the boat for > breaking up, I suppose. What would have been the point in travelling at 10mph when he was trying to set a high speed record? |
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21-05.-2008, 04:36 AM
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Re: Red lights jumping - interesting survey
On 20 May, 19:10, Adrian <toomany2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much > like they were saying: > > >> Yes it does. If it didn't, he would have died in the accident, even if > >> the boat had been travelling at 10mph. > > If the boat hadn't hit the floating obstruction (or whatever it was that > > caused Bluebird to flip) > > They rushed the turn-around, and tried to do the return run before the > wake of the previous run had settled. > > So, in a way, speed was indeed responsible for the crash - but the speed > they turned the boat round, not necessarily the speed the boat was > travelling at. "Now you never get nowhere if you’re too hasty" |
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21-05.-2008, 04:38 AM
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Re: Red lights jumping - interesting survey
On 20 May, 19:18, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Squashme wrote: > > On 20 May, 18:58, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> Squashme wrote: > >>> On 20 May, 09:06, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >>>> Squashme wrote: > >>>>> On 19 May, 19:30, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> Squashmewrote: > >>>>>>> On 19 May, 19:09, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> Squashmewrote: > >>>>>>>>> On 19 May, 08:29, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Squashmewrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On 18 May, 20:44, "Brimstone" > >>>>>>>>>>> <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> Squashmewrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 May, 20:17, Conor <conor_tur...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <66c96bc7-16bc-4851-b9d6- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 675460064...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,Squashmesays... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does speed kill? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> About 3 hours ago I topped 100MPH on a NSL SC B road in a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 21 year old car. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a fortnight I expect to top 90MPH in flat out > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> acceleration testing at least 3 times in one morning. I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> expect to be posting that evening. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Hammond crashed at 288MPH but managed to complete > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> another series of Top Gear. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I guess that's answered that question. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody dies, until they do. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> So the answer to your earlier question ("Does speed kill?") > >>>>>>>>>>>> is "No", isn't it? > > >>>>>>>>>>> Ummm, certainly would be, if you would have accepted that > >>>>>>>>>>> speed does kill, if Richard Hammond had died. Like Donald > >>>>>>>>>>> Campbell did. > > >>>>>>>>>> Except that in neither case was the speed of the vehicle the > >>>>>>>>>> cause of the incident. > > >>>>>>>>> If Campbell had crashed at a much slower speed, in all > >>>>>>>>> probability he would not have been in the soup. > > >>>>>>>> So what, speed was not the cause of the crash whereas it was > >>>>>>>> the reason for the run. > > >>>>>>> Crashing at high speed killed him. > > >>>>>> So what? > > >>>>> Speed killed. > > >>>> No it didn't. If it did he would have died even if the boat stayed > >>>> on the surface of the water in its normal fashion. > > >>> Yes it does. If it didn't, he would have died in the accident, even > >>> if the boat had been travelling at 10mph. > > >> If the boat hadn't hit the floating obstruction (or whatever it was > >> that caused Bluebird to flip) then he would have completed the run > >> and still been alive. Speed does not kill. > > > If he had hit an obstruction at 10 mph, he would not have flipped. But > > he did, at over 300mph. And died. You could blame the boat for > > breaking up, I suppose. > > What would have been the point in travelling at 10mph when he was trying to > set a high speed record? He could have crept up on it. |
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Re: Red lights jumping - interesting survey
Squashme wrote:
> On 20 May, 19:18, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> What would have been the point in travelling at 10mph when he was >> trying to set a high speed record? > > He could have crept up on it. Have you ever tries creeping about on water? |
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