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internal to external gears

 
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Old 16-05.-2008, 01:31 AM   #16
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> "cmcanulty" <cmcanulty@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ba237a38-c794-4140-84e3-b8d169fa58ce@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> Get a copy of Glenn's Complete Bicycle Manual out of library (an old
>> book) has detailed exploded views of internal gear hubs. Won't be
>> exactly your hub but close enough. I redid a 3 speed hub once with
>> only the book and no knowledge, didn't even need any parts.


Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> I thought that Sturmey Archer manufactured virtually all 3 speed hubs
> for almost a half century, even the ones OEMed by other people.


Hercules, Shimano, Sachs and Steyr?
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Old 16-05.-2008, 04:50 AM   #17
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> On May 15, 12:31 am, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <t...@toybox.placo.com> wrote:
>> "cmcanulty" <cmcanu...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> [...]
>> I thought that Sturmey Archer manufactured virtually all 3 speed hubs
>> for almost a half century, even the ones OEMed by other people.


Chip C wrote:
> I think it's very true that S-A made "virtually all 3 speed hubs for
> almost half a century", but I had not heard that S-A hubs were ever re-
> branded under other names. Raleigh made *bikes* under a lot of brands,
> some their own and some the brands of various retailers worldwide, and
> S-A hubs were used by unrelated makers (Schwinn, CCM, etc), but I
> *think* S-A hubs were always marked S-A.
>
> Apparently BSA for a while made a 3-speed hub similar to (based on?
> licensed from?) S-A's, but the chief alternative was a Japanese-made 3-
> speed. It's instantly recognizable by a little lever gizmo in place of
> the spindle chain, and also the non-branded shifter. The ones that
> I've seen are only marked in Japanese. I have it in my head, but don't
> know where I heard it, that they were made by Shimano, or the company
> which became Shimano.


You refer to the classic Shimano type F and type FA gearboxes with a
pushrod and bell crank control.

The Suntour three speed hub was a Sturmey AW.
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Old 17-05.-2008, 10:45 PM   #18
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On 13 May 2008 20:30:36 GMT, "Peter" <xdzgor@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Thanks for your comments. The bike mechanic said the hub was shot, not
>that he opened it to look at what exactly was wrong. It would be
>cheaper to replace the whole hub than to try to fix it.


Nexuses should be fixable by replacing the entirety of the internals,
which you can do without respoking and thus for a lot less than 200 euros.

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Old 18-05.-2008, 01:52 PM   #19
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On May 15, 2:50 pm, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> > On May 15, 12:31 am, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <t...@toybox.placo.com> wrote:
> >> "cmcanulty" <cmcanu...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> > [...]
> >> I thought that Sturmey Archer manufactured virtually all 3 speed hubs
> >> for almost a half century, even the ones OEMed by other people.

> Chip C wrote:
> > I think it's very true that S-A made "virtually all 3 speed hubs for
> > almost half a century", but I had not heard that S-A hubs were ever re-
> > branded under other names. Raleigh made *bikes* under a lot of brands,
> > some their own and some the brands of various retailers worldwide, and
> > S-A hubs were used by unrelated makers (Schwinn, CCM, etc), but I
> > *think* S-A hubs were always marked S-A.

>
> > Apparently BSA for a while made a 3-speed hub similar to (based on?
> > licensed from?) S-A's, but the chief alternative was a Japanese-made 3-
> > speed. It's instantly recognizable by a little lever gizmo in place of
> > the spindle chain, and also the non-branded shifter. The ones that
> > I've seen are only marked in Japanese. I have it in my head, but don't
> > know where I heard it, that they were made by Shimano, or the company
> > which became Shimano.

>
> You refer to the classic Shimano type F and type FA gearboxes with a
> pushrod and bell crank control.
>
> The Suntour three speed hub was a Sturmey AW.
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**


A "bell crank"! There's a *name* for that! I think I most recently saw
it implemented on an IKEA lamp socket.

Just earlier this evening, in the course of confirming that my 3-
spline S-A sprocket *ought* to just lift off the driver, I ended up
reading not only about the Shimano 3-speeds but also about the
(presumably rare) SunTour-branded S-A hub; also about German (Sachs)
and Austrian (Steyr) -made 3-speeds. The latter having parts
interchangeability with S-A was presumably a knock-off or licensed or
something, but not being made in the UK not made *by* S-A.

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