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Cycling wrong way up one way street

 
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Old 29-05.-2008, 07:04 AM   #166
stillnobodyhome@gmail.com
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 21:48:53 +0100, Cynic <cynic_999@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

>On Wed, 28 May 2008 21:44:00 +0100, stillnobodyhome@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>Say someone comes out of a shop and straight in to 2 cops on bikes
>>,not expecting to find cyclists on the pavement .

>
>If they are cycling slowly that is no more likely than coming out of a
>shop and walking into a pedestrian on the pavement.


If you walk in to the front wheel of a bike are you not more likely to
end up face first on the ground than if you walk in to someone who is
the same height as yourself .?
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Old 29-05.-2008, 07:05 AM   #167
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 21:48:53 +0100
Cynic <cynic_999@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 28 May 2008 21:44:00 +0100, stillnobodyhome@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >Say someone comes out of a shop and straight in to 2 cops on bikes
> >,not expecting to find cyclists on the pavement .

>
> If they are cycling slowly that is no more likely than coming out of a
> shop and walking into a pedestrian on the pavement.
>

So they can sidestep? Remember we're talking plastic plod here, not
proper cyclists.

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Old 29-05.-2008, 08:08 AM   #168
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The Luggage wrote:
> On 21 May, 14:48, "Jeremy Parker" <JeremyPar...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>Cycle tracks, of course, have such a bad reputation that people have
>>started resorting to euphemisms to avoid referring to them, such as
>>"protected (hah!) lanes". Every traffic engineer seems to know that
>>tracks are bad, even if they don't know enough about traffic
>>engineering to know why.

> So why do they still inflict them on us???


Because they want to keep us out of the way of motor traffic.
Unfortunately a lot of people who cycle, and a lot of parents, think
this is a good idea too.

Colin McKenzie



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Old 29-05.-2008, 09:29 AM   #169
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stillnobodyhome@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 28 May 2008 21:48:53 +0100, Cynic <cynic_999@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 May 2008 21:44:00 +0100, stillnobodyhome@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Say someone comes out of a shop and straight in to 2 cops on bikes
>>> ,not expecting to find cyclists on the pavement .

>> If they are cycling slowly that is no more likely than coming out of a
>> shop and walking into a pedestrian on the pavement.

>
> If you walk in to the front wheel of a bike are you not more likely to
> end up face first on the ground than if you walk in to someone who is
> the same height as yourself .?


Not particularly. More likely the wheel will move out of your way. I
actually think it is safer to ride slowly with a bike on the pavement
than walk. If you walk you have to be very careful people don't hit
their shins on the pedals.
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Old 29-05.-2008, 04:36 PM   #170
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In news:6klr3496va783ftprdqo83vksr86d6kkee@4ax.com,
stillnobodyhome@gmail.com <stillnobodyhome@gmail.com> tweaked the
Babbage-Engine to tell us:

> If you walk in to the front wheel of a bike are you not more likely to
> end up face first on the ground than if you walk in to someone who is
> the same height as yourself .?


If you walk into a copper, whether on a bike or on foot, you're more likely
to end up firstly face first on the ground and later in Belmarsh married to
the person with the most cigarettes.

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Old 29-05.-2008, 06:07 PM   #171
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stillnobodyhome@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 28 May 2008 15:57:31 +0100, Nick <Nick.Spam@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Adrian wrote:
>>> TimB <stokefolk@gmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
>>> saying:
>>>
>>>> "Thank you for bringing to my attention the two PCSO's riding on the
>>>> footpath in Marsh Street on the 11th May.
>>>> I am pleased to see
>>>> that you observed the officers riding at a leisurely pace and did not
>>>> appear to be in a hurry to get anywhere which comes from their training
>>>> of safe cycling, safety before speed.
>>> <rolls eyes>
>>> "They weren't speeding, so they must have been safe..."
>>>

>> Well it is the speed that normally causes the danger. What do you think
>> the danger from officers riding at a leisurely pace comes from?

>
> Say someone comes out of a shop and straight in to 2 cops on bikes
> ,not expecting to find cyclists on the pavement .


The person coming out of the shop would have to wait for a real plod to
arrive, and if that occured within 30 minutes, he/she could be arrested
for obstruction.

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Old 29-05.-2008, 06:50 PM   #172
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 23:04:07 +0100, stillnobodyhome@gmail.com wrote:

>>If they are cycling slowly that is no more likely than coming out of a
>>shop and walking into a pedestrian on the pavement.


>If you walk in to the front wheel of a bike are you not more likely to
>end up face first on the ground than if you walk in to someone who is
>the same height as yourself .?


If you are doing either of those things, you need to get a better
trained guide dog.

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Old 29-05.-2008, 06:52 PM   #173
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 23:05:22 +0100, Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>> If they are cycling slowly that is no more likely than coming out of a
>> shop and walking into a pedestrian on the pavement.
>>

>So they can sidestep? Remember we're talking plastic plod here, not
>proper cyclists.


The person leaving the shop should avoid walking into the path of
either pedestrians or cyclists. It only becomes an issue if the
cyclist is riding fast and so is not seen by person leaving the shop
in sufficient time to avoid walking into its path.

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Old 30-05.-2008, 07:35 PM   #174
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"Cynic" <cynic_999@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:13vs34h0ucloa9a7kab2ocb4itk2t2rqrk@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 28 May 2008 23:05:22 +0100, Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>
> The person leaving the shop should avoid walking into the path of
> either pedestrians or cyclists. It only becomes an issue if the
> cyclist is riding fast and so is not seen by person leaving the shop
> in sufficient time to avoid walking into its path.
>
> --
> Cynic


My wife stepped out of a shop into the path of a speeding pavement cyclist:
a collision was narrowly averted, but the cyclist shouted abuse at her.


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Old 30-05.-2008, 07:47 PM   #175
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On Fri, 30 May 2008 11:35:27 +0100, "John Pitcock"
<j-pitcock(nospam)@msn.com> wrote:

>
>"Cynic" <cynic_999@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:13vs34h0ucloa9a7kab2ocb4itk2t2rqrk@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 28 May 2008 23:05:22 +0100, Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The person leaving the shop should avoid walking into the path of
>> either pedestrians or cyclists. It only becomes an issue if the
>> cyclist is riding fast and so is not seen by person leaving the shop
>> in sufficient time to avoid walking into its path.
>>
>> --
>> Cynic

>
>My wife stepped out of a shop into the path of a speeding pavement cyclist:
>a collision was narrowly averted, but the cyclist shouted abuse at her.


Oh dear. All part of the rich tapestry of life, I'm afraid.

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Old 30-05.-2008, 07:49 PM   #176
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Cynic wrote:
> On Fri, 30 May 2008 11:35:27 +0100, "John Pitcock"
> <j-pitcock(nospam)@msn.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Cynic" <cynic_999@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:13vs34h0ucloa9a7kab2ocb4itk2t2rqrk@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 28 May 2008 23:05:22 +0100, Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The person leaving the shop should avoid walking into the path of
>>> either pedestrians or cyclists. It only becomes an issue if the
>>> cyclist is riding fast and so is not seen by person leaving the shop
>>> in sufficient time to avoid walking into its path.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cynic

>>
>> My wife stepped out of a shop into the path of a speeding pavement
>> cyclist: a collision was narrowly averted, but the cyclist shouted
>> abuse at her.

>
> Oh dear. All part of the rich tapestry of life, I'm afraid.


And a stick placed carefully in the spokes of the speeding cyclist can add
another apect of life to that tapestry.


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Old 30-05.-2008, 08:07 PM   #177
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Brimstone wrote:
> Cynic wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 May 2008 11:35:27 +0100, "John Pitcock"
>> <j-pitcock(nospam)@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Cynic" <cynic_999@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:13vs34h0ucloa9a7kab2ocb4itk2t2rqrk@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 28 May 2008 23:05:22 +0100, Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The person leaving the shop should avoid walking into the path of
>>>> either pedestrians or cyclists. It only becomes an issue if the
>>>> cyclist is riding fast and so is not seen by person leaving the shop
>>>> in sufficient time to avoid walking into its path.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cynic
>>> My wife stepped out of a shop into the path of a speeding pavement
>>> cyclist: a collision was narrowly averted, but the cyclist shouted
>>> abuse at her.

>> Oh dear. All part of the rich tapestry of life, I'm afraid.

>
> And a stick placed carefully in the spokes of the speeding cyclist can add
> another apect of life to that tapestry.
>
>

Best to put the stick in the front wheel, you could then score the
resulting somersault.

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Old 30-05.-2008, 08:20 PM   #178
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Tony Dragon wrote:
> Brimstone wrote:
>> Cynic wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 May 2008 11:35:27 +0100, "John Pitcock"
>>> <j-pitcock(nospam)@msn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Cynic" <cynic_999@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:13vs34h0ucloa9a7kab2ocb4itk2t2rqrk@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Wed, 28 May 2008 23:05:22 +0100, Rob Morley
>>>>> <nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The person leaving the shop should avoid walking into the path of
>>>>> either pedestrians or cyclists. It only becomes an issue if the
>>>>> cyclist is riding fast and so is not seen by person leaving the
>>>>> shop in sufficient time to avoid walking into its path.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cynic
>>>> My wife stepped out of a shop into the path of a speeding pavement
>>>> cyclist: a collision was narrowly averted, but the cyclist shouted
>>>> abuse at her.
>>> Oh dear. All part of the rich tapestry of life, I'm afraid.

>>
>> And a stick placed carefully in the spokes of the speeding cyclist
>> can add another apect of life to that tapestry.
>>
>>

> Best to put the stick in the front wheel, you could then score the
> resulting somersault.


That would indeed provide a much greater enrichment to the tapestry than
putting it into the rear wheel. However, either is acceptable.


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Old 30-05.-2008, 08:41 PM   #179
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Brimstone wrote:
> Tony Dragon wrote:
>> Brimstone wrote:
>>> Cynic wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 30 May 2008 11:35:27 +0100, "John Pitcock"
>>>> <j-pitcock(nospam)@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Cynic" <cynic_999@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:13vs34h0ucloa9a7kab2ocb4itk2t2rqrk@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Wed, 28 May 2008 23:05:22 +0100, Rob Morley
>>>>>> <nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The person leaving the shop should avoid walking into the path of
>>>>>> either pedestrians or cyclists. It only becomes an issue if the
>>>>>> cyclist is riding fast and so is not seen by person leaving the
>>>>>> shop in sufficient time to avoid walking into its path.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Cynic
>>>>> My wife stepped out of a shop into the path of a speeding pavement
>>>>> cyclist: a collision was narrowly averted, but the cyclist shouted
>>>>> abuse at her.
>>>> Oh dear. All part of the rich tapestry of life, I'm afraid.
>>> And a stick placed carefully in the spokes of the speeding cyclist
>>> can add another apect of life to that tapestry.
>>>
>>>

>> Best to put the stick in the front wheel, you could then score the
>> resulting somersault.

>
> That would indeed provide a much greater enrichment to the tapestry than
> putting it into the rear wheel. However, either is acceptable.
>
>

Would you like to throw rocks at the windscreens of speeding cars too?
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Old 30-05.-2008, 08:52 PM   #180
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Nick <Nick.Spam@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
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....
>> That would indeed provide a much greater enrichment to the tapestry
>> than putting it into the rear wheel. However, either is acceptable.
>>
>>

> Would you like to throw rocks at the windscreens of speeding cars too?


If they were on the pavement endangering pedistrians why not?

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