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Please tell me this guy is going to jail???

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Old 10-05.-2008, 07:52 PM   #16
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I've heard from an aquaintance who was there...road is 3 lanes wide & a breakdown lane where the incident happened. No traffic was held up before the incident. said Bogan apparently drove up behind the bunch blowing his horn (despite there being 2 other lanes to choose from) then drove around them in one of the free lanes, ducked back into the cyclists lane & slammed on the brakes. very few actually hit the car, but the evasive action of the other cyclists brought many of the pack down. Damage is superficial despite Benny K crapping on about it being $50K. Abuse was copped from other motorists AFTER the incident as police , ambulance (not needed) & assorted media arrived & proceeded to create 'rubberneck wonderland', slowing the passing traffic. Mate reckons the offender was in a shitbox Ford whose value could be guaged by how much petrol it had....doesn't reckon there's a chance in hell that he'll be insured!
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Old 10-05.-2008, 11:00 PM   #17
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Pffftt...I hate to go all 'The castle' on ya....but ya dreaming, unless this guy is insured, (& I'd be willing to be that he won't be), then no-one will get a razoo...unless he has some assets upon which to execute a judegment, then ya judgements a lovely 'moral victory', but worthless (hang on, ya could paste em up on the wall as wallpaper)...once again, would love to be proven wrong...but this guy will pay nothing, almost guaranteed
I'd be very surprised if his insurance company (assuming for a moment that there is one) would pay up over a deliberate illegal action like this!
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Old 10-05.-2008, 11:12 PM   #18
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I'd be very surprised if his insurance company (assuming for a moment that there is one) would pay up over a deliberate illegal action like this!
correctamundo they would decline indemnity to him
but that's not a reason not to get an order and bankrupt the stupid lying p[r]ick
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Old 11-05.-2008, 03:15 PM   #19
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correctamundo they would decline indemnity to him
but that's not a reason not to get an order and bankrupt the stupid lying p[r]ick


Absolutely, the insurance won't cover him if it is *proven* that it was adeliberate act....knowing it & proving it are 2 different things.
Filing a bankruptcy notice will cost ya $4K, give or take.....lotta money to prove a point, 'specially if he hasn't got anything for the trustee to 'liquidate'....far better someone publishes his name & address. I'm sure there are plenty of 'tech' savvy cyclists that could make his life a misery for the next 50 years!
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Old 11-05.-2008, 05:44 PM   #20
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A few months ago in Perth, some riders were run over by a car- who deliberately reversed over their bikes, broke one guy's ankle... the law will never punish (adequately) some moron motorist, it's far too soft and they dont care about our rights
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Yet to be charged
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Old 12-05.-2008, 03:43 PM   #22
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Yet to be charged
Any new info floating around in Sydney this week? I don't know which forums are likely to be frequented by those in the know.
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Old 12-05.-2008, 04:35 PM   #23
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Any new info floating around in Sydney this week? I don't know which forums are likely to be frequented by those in the know.


Apparently 'Jas' has done a runner.
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Old 12-05.-2008, 06:50 PM   #24
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I hope for his sake the Ford is a little more reliable than it apparently was on Thursday. Though, at least the brakes work! How far does a falcon run on a tank of gas anyway? :P
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I hope for his sake the Ford is a little more reliable than it apparently was on Thursday. Though, at least the brakes work! How far does a falcon run on a tank of gas anyway? :P
Can't be that good, he has to put it in park to change over.... yeh sure.
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Old 13-05.-2008, 06:53 AM   #26
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Not yet charged but at least he's in the courts.
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegra...5001028,00.html
Fairly lame charge and hopefully the police enquiries will lead to further charges being laid if the media reports regarding the occurrence of events are accurate.
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Old 13-05.-2008, 12:27 PM   #27
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Not yet charged but at least he's in the courts.
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegra...5001028,00.html
Fairly lame charge and hopefully the police enquiries will lead to further charges being laid if the media reports regarding the occurrence of events are accurate.
Retainer charge, the real ones are yet to come I assume.
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Old 14-05.-2008, 06:55 PM   #28
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Retainer charge, the real ones are yet to come I assume.


Here's hoping.

Has anyone heard anything about the peleton taking class action if the cops don't do the job? I know it's a lot to ask, but the cycling + car culture has to change in Australia, and maybe if nutters like this are held to account for their ludicrous behaviour, we might get there.

I've spent a bit of time trawling the comments on various news sites on this incident - and it seems like (no surprise) there are an awful lot of people who are leaping to the driver's defense, even before the miserable explanation of their actions on radio.

I just don't want to believe that so many people are so small minded. But after 15 years of road cycling, maybe I should know better?
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Old 14-05.-2008, 08:19 PM   #29
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They could of course be the vocal minority, the "haters" who hate everything. Today it's cyclists, tomorrow it will be immigrants, the following day someone else.

Sadly though, purely my personal opinion is that people like this tend to come from jobs and upbringings where they have no power or control over their lives. Being told what to do all day in dead end jobs they hate. Turn the key of their car and how things change. See a defenceless cyclist or even a bunch and it's game on, who has the power now?

On a brighter note, a survey run by news.com had roughly 60:40 in favour of cyclists' right to do what we do. Maybe there's hope?
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Old 15-05.-2008, 12:13 PM   #30
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On a brighter note, a survey run by news.com had roughly 60:40 in favour of cyclists' right to do what we do. Maybe there's hope?[/QUOTE]
I totally agree.

I did find it frustrating that one of the news broadcasts - can't remember which station, reported this incident with a summary of the road rules for cyclists. Including that old favourite, "cyclist must use a bike path when one is available". I am sure this is not law in NSW - but I've been wrong before!

I wish there was a peak cycling body with sufficient resources to do a proper advertising campaign to raise the level of understanding! No point in waiting for the gov!! But I dream!!

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PS. I came down on my weekend road ride - MY FAULT. Wanted to turn rigth, stayed left to let some traffic pass, dropped a wheel off the shoulder, hit long grass, hit ground! All very quick! Moral - hold your position on the road!!
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