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Old 07-05.-2008, 11:57 AM   #1
Tom Kunich
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Was there a Medieval Warm Period? YES, according to data published by 532
individual scientists from 325 separate research institutions in 38
different countries ... and counting!

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Old 07-05.-2008, 12:39 PM   #2
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Tom Kunich wrote:
> Was there a Medieval Warm Period? YES, according to data published by
> 532 individual scientists from 325 separate research institutions in 38
> different countries ... and counting!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_warm_period

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) states that
the "idea of a global or hemispheric "Medieval Warm Period" that was
warmer than today however, has turned out to be incorrect" and that what
those "records that do exist show is that there was no multi-century
periods when global or hemispheric temperatures were the same or warmer
than in the 20th century". Indeed, global temperature records taken from
ice cores, tree rings, and lake deposits, have shown that the Earth was
actually slightly cooler (by 0.03 degrees Celsius) during the 'Medieval
Warm Period' than in the early- and mid-20th century.

your friend in science
/dave a
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Old 07-05.-2008, 02:31 PM   #3
Tom Kunich
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"dave a" <blkcatREMOVETHIS@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fvr4q9029s3@news1.newsguy.com...
> Tom Kunich wrote:
>> Was there a Medieval Warm Period? YES, according to data published by 532
>> individual scientists from 325 separate research institutions in 38
>> different countries ... and counting!

>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_warm_period
>
> The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) states that the
> "idea of a global or hemispheric "Medieval Warm Period" that was warmer
> than today however, has turned out to be incorrect" and that what those
> "records that do exist show is that there was no multi-century periods
> when global or hemispheric temperatures were the same or warmer than in
> the 20th century". Indeed, global temperature records taken from ice
> cores, tree rings, and lake deposits, have shown that the Earth was
> actually slightly cooler (by 0.03 degrees Celsius) during the 'Medieval
> Warm Period' than in the early- and mid-20th century.


So NOAA trumps 532 scientists. Who knew?

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Old 07-05.-2008, 03:49 PM   #4
bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
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On May 6, 9:31*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "dave a" <blkcatREMOVET...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fvr4q9029s3@news1.newsguy.com...
>
>
>
> > Tom Kunich wrote:
> >> Was there a Medieval Warm Period? YES, according to data published by 532
> >> individual scientists from 325 separate research institutions in 38
> >> different countries ... and counting!

>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_warm_period

>
> > The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) states that the
> > "idea of a global or hemispheric "Medieval Warm Period" that was warmer
> > than today however, has turned out to be incorrect" and that what those
> > "records that do exist show is that there was no multi-century periods
> > when global or hemispheric temperatures were the same or warmer than in
> > the 20th century". Indeed, global temperature records taken from ice
> > cores, tree rings, and lake deposits, have shown that the Earth was
> > actually slightly cooler (by 0.03 degrees Celsius) during the 'Medieval
> > Warm Period' than in the early- and mid-20th century.

>
> So NOAA trumps 532 scientists. Who knew?


Kun-Kun,

Your original post doesn't sound like something
a person would just write and post to Usenet. In fact,
a simple Google reveals that you cut-and-pasted it
from http://www.co2science.org/ , which is a step up
from stealing your material from couplescompany.com,
though it's just a slickly designed climate
disinformation website. Most people agree there was
a Medieval Warm Period, they just don't agree that it
means what "co2science.org" wants it to mean.

Still, not quoting and naming your sources is plagiarism
by most university standards. I'm afraid I'm going to
have to give you zero credit for your term paper and
you're going to fail the class. But I don't think this
case rises to the level of reporting as an honor code
violation, so the Dean and I have agreed that you
can stay enrolled for the fall semester. I'm going to
recommend that you try "Rocks for Jocks" rather than
taking Professor Asher's earth sciences class for
your distribution requirement, though.

Ben

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Old 07-05.-2008, 04:51 PM   #5
Howard Kveck
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In article <d1a87038-4d69-4314-bef5-48169780e97e@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
"bjw@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote:

> On May 6, 9:31*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> > "dave a" <blkcatREMOVET...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:fvr4q9029s3@news1.newsguy.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > > Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >> Was there a Medieval Warm Period? YES, according to data published by 532
> > >> individual scientists from 325 separate research institutions in 38
> > >> different countries ... and counting!

> >
> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_warm_period

> >
> > > The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) states that the
> > > "idea of a global or hemispheric "Medieval Warm Period" that was warmer
> > > than today however, has turned out to be incorrect" and that what those
> > > "records that do exist show is that there was no multi-century periods
> > > when global or hemispheric temperatures were the same or warmer than in
> > > the 20th century". Indeed, global temperature records taken from ice
> > > cores, tree rings, and lake deposits, have shown that the Earth was
> > > actually slightly cooler (by 0.03 degrees Celsius) during the 'Medieval
> > > Warm Period' than in the early- and mid-20th century.

> >
> > So NOAA trumps 532 scientists. Who knew?

>
> Kun-Kun,
>
> Your original post doesn't sound like something
> a person would just write and post to Usenet. In fact,
> a simple Google reveals that you cut-and-pasted it
> from http://www.co2science.org/ , which is a step up
> from stealing your material from couplescompany.com,
> though it's just a slickly designed climate
> disinformation website. Most people agree there was
> a Medieval Warm Period, they just don't agree that it
> means what "co2science.org" wants it to mean.
>
> Still, not quoting and naming your sources is plagiarism
> by most university standards. I'm afraid I'm going to
> have to give you zero credit for your term paper and
> you're going to fail the class. But I don't think this
> case rises to the level of reporting as an honor code
> violation, so the Dean and I have agreed that you
> can stay enrolled for the fall semester. I'm going to
> recommend that you try "Rocks for Jocks" rather than
> taking Professor Asher's earth sciences class for
> your distribution requirement, though.


What? No Double Secret Probation?!?!?! I'm shocked at how lax this institution has
become.

--
tanx,
Howard

Whatever happened to
Leon Trotsky?
He got an icepick
That made his ears burn.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Old 07-05.-2008, 05:38 PM   #6
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bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> I'm going to recommend that you try "Rocks for Jocks"
> rather than taking Professor Asher's earth sciences class for your
> distribution requirement, though.


No doubt Professor Asher will be glad to hear he won't be pushing
any more rocks up a mountain in the underworld.

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Old 07-05.-2008, 06:01 PM   #7
William Asher
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Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com> wrote in news:48215cc2$0$25773
$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com:

>
> No doubt Professor Asher will be glad to hear he won't be pushing
> any more rocks up a mountain in the underworld.
>


That stuff is for Sisyphuses anyway.

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Old 07-05.-2008, 11:23 PM   #8
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<bjw@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote in message
news:d1a87038-4d69-4314-bef5-48169780e97e@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>
> Most people agree there was
> a Medieval Warm Period, they just don't agree that it
> means what "co2science.org" wants it to mean.


Well, Benny, good old CO2Science is so bad that some of your buddies
attacked it and tried to erase all of the data. Too bad for people like you
that actual records and papers prove you wrong most of the time.

But it's all right with me if you want to pretend to be knowledgeable about
something you know nothing about.


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Old 08-05.-2008, 12:13 AM   #9
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On May 6, 6:57 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> Was there a Medieval Warm Period? YES, according to data published by 532
> individual scientists from 325 separate research institutions in 38
> different countries ... and counting!


NO, according to some of those 500+ scientists:

http://www.desmogblog.com/500-scien...tland-institute
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Old 08-05.-2008, 12:20 AM   #10
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On Tue, 6 May 2008 22:49:23 -0700 (PDT), "bjw@mambo.ucolick.org"
<bjw@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote:

>On May 6, 9:31*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>> "dave a" <blkcatREMOVET...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:fvr4q9029s3@news1.newsguy.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Tom Kunich wrote:
>> >> Was there a Medieval Warm Period? YES, according to data published by 532
>> >> individual scientists from 325 separate research institutions in 38
>> >> different countries ... and counting!

>>
>> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_warm_period

>>
>> > The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) states that the
>> > "idea of a global or hemispheric "Medieval Warm Period" that was warmer
>> > than today however, has turned out to be incorrect" and that what those
>> > "records that do exist show is that there was no multi-century periods
>> > when global or hemispheric temperatures were the same or warmer than in
>> > the 20th century". Indeed, global temperature records taken from ice
>> > cores, tree rings, and lake deposits, have shown that the Earth was
>> > actually slightly cooler (by 0.03 degrees Celsius) during the 'Medieval
>> > Warm Period' than in the early- and mid-20th century.

>>
>> So NOAA trumps 532 scientists. Who knew?

>
>Kun-Kun,
>
>Your original post doesn't sound like something
>a person would just write and post to Usenet. In fact,
>a simple Google reveals that you cut-and-pasted it
>from http://www.co2science.org/ , which is a step up
>from stealing your material from couplescompany.com,
>though it's just a slickly designed climate
>disinformation website. Most people agree there was
>a Medieval Warm Period, they just don't agree that it
>means what "co2science.org" wants it to mean.


I just looked at the web site cited above and it's clearly right out
of the Rush Limbaugh School of Climate Science.


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Old 08-05.-2008, 12:50 AM   #11
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"Robert Chung" <rechung@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:79e117f9-8f78-4c19-b440-3c2a7859c903@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> On May 6, 6:57 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>> Was there a Medieval Warm Period? YES, according to data published by 532
>> individual scientists from 325 separate research institutions in 38
>> different countries ... and counting!

>
> NO, according to some of those 500+ scientists:
>
> http://www.desmogblog.com/500-scien...tland-institute


Well then Robert - what are you doing to save the earth?

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Old 08-05.-2008, 01:00 AM   #12
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"John Everett" <jeverett3@sbcglobal.DEFEAT.UCE.BOTS.net> wrote in message
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>
> I just looked at the web site cited above and it's clearly right out
> of the Rush Limbaugh School of Climate Science.


I like your science:

"we do not currently have any convincing evidence or observations of
significant climate change from other than natural causes." Frederick Seitz
President Emeritus, Rockefeller University, Past President, National Academy
of Sciences, Past President, American Physical Society, Chairman, Science
and Environmental Policy Project

The fact is that there are hundreds of scientists that have signed onto the
Kyoto Protocols and backed the IPCC who haven't the slightest training nor
education in the questions at hand. And of course those same sort of
uneducated dolts such as our own Benny here are perfectly willing to support
politicians who promise policies which would essentially cause mass societal
destruction and starvation of the third world.

But just go right ahead and believe people screaming that you have to throw
all of your money at them and then live like a pauper. Seems like your kind
of thinking.

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Old 08-05.-2008, 01:38 AM   #13
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On May 7, 10:50 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Robert Chung" <rech...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > On May 6, 6:57 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >> Was there a Medieval Warm Period? YES, according to data published by 532
> >> individual scientists from 325 separate research institutions in 38
> >> different countries ... and counting!

>
> > NO, according to some of those 500+ scientists:

>
> >http://www.desmogblog.com/500-scien...ed-doubts-about...

>
> Well then Robert - what are you doing to save the earth?


Let's see. You plagiarize a portion of a reactionary site's article
that apparently uses a bot to collect climate scientists names at
random and stick them on a list, which is beyond stupid for them and a
ME TOO! I'M WITH STUPID! for you. That about sum it up?

I'm getting fed up waiting for the Kun-bot upgrade. It's long
overdue. I'm afraid that the Alzheimer's organizations are going to
have the current one removed for being demeaning to real people with
real memory problems. Is there an open source Kun-bot project in the
works? Please let me know where to PayPal my three dollars.

R
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Old 08-05.-2008, 01:43 AM   #14
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RicodJour wrote:
> I'm getting fed up waiting for the Kun-bot upgrade. It's long overdue.
> I'm afraid that the Alzheimer's organizations are going to have the
> current one removed for being demeaning to real people with real memory
> problems. Is there an open source Kun-bot project in the works? Please
> let me know where to PayPal my three dollars.


The open source version is going to be embedded into a
powermeter and programmed to attack Iran when it takes
a natural break.
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Old 08-05.-2008, 01:47 AM   #15
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On May 7, 7:50 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Robert Chung" <rech...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:79e117f9-8f78-4c19-b440-3c2a7859c903@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On May 6, 6:57 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >> Was there a Medieval Warm Period? YES, according to data published by 532
> >> individual scientists from 325 separate research institutions in 38
> >> different countries ... and counting!

>
> > NO, according to some of those 500+ scientists:

>
> >http://www.desmogblog.com/500-scien...ed-doubts-about...

>
> Well then Robert - what are you doing to save the earth?


Hmmm. Well, in matters like these I try to start with little steps.
Pointing out how foolish you are is almost always a reasonable
beginning.
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