New bike placebo?

Tom Sherman

datakoll aka GENE daniels wrote:
> ITS ITS ITS MAGNESIUM
>
> now we know why joe has feet larger than our feet ?

A breakthrough in dietary science!

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

joseph.santaniello@gmail.com

On May 3, 10:23*pm, Ron Ruff <rruffrr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 12:28*pm, "joseph.santanie...@gmail.com"
>
> <joseph.santanie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So why is this bike SOOOOO much better?
>
> I'm envious. I built up a new frame last Nov... went from a flexy
> 3.5lb Ti frame with heavy fork to 2.4lb stiff carbon frame with a
> light fork. Unfortunately the maiden voyage was after a forced 2 week
> layoff because of a back injury... and I was super slow. Stiff frame,
> yes... I liked that part... but my first time up a local hill I was a
> full 20% off the pace I'd set only a few weeks early. I figured I'd
> lost some fitness, but 20%? I found myself looking at Ti frames on
> ebay. Anyway, I'm still a long way from matching my performances from
> last fall.
>
> How did you lose 3kg on the bike? That seems like an incredible amount
> considering that your old one was pretty good.

I steered clear of any hills! I stuck to where I and the bike had a
chance to shine. One part that stands out is an off camber left I take
that is often strewn with gravel. The approach is also blind to
oncoming traffic, and immediately after the turn, the road sweeps to
the right. I normally approach preoccupied with the potential oncoming
traffic, ready to stop if needed and take it easy in the turn, wary of
the camber and gravel and once around the second curve, resume
pedalling. This time I stormed toward the turn, confident that if a
car were coming, I could just go straight instead of turning, and I
blazed through the turn leaning well farther than I have done for 20
years, and stood and sprinted out of the turn into the next one, the
bike doing that mid-turn sprint side to side, tracking perfectly the
whole time in total control.

If I had gone to some steep hill, I'm sur ethe bike would still have
felt better than the other one, but I would have still felt slow and
not really have noticed how much the bike is better.

I was mistaken. 3kg is too much. That would be counting the
lightweight wheels I wasn't using. More like 1.9kg from lighter frame,
fork, seat, post, bars, stem, Dura Ace vs Ultegra, etc.

Joseph

joseph.santaniello@gmail.com

On May 3, 10:41*pm, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> > <joseph.santanie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> So why is this bike SOOOOO much better?
> Ron Ruff wrote:
> > I'm envious. I built up a new frame last Nov... went from a flexy
> > 3.5lb Ti frame with heavy fork to 2.4lb stiff carbon frame with a
> > light fork. Unfortunately the maiden voyage was after a forced 2 week
> > layoff because of a back injury... and I was super slow. Stiff frame,
> > yes... I liked that part... but my first time up a local hill I was a
> > full 20% off the pace I'd set only a few weeks early. I figured I'd
> > lost some fitness, but 20%? I found myself looking at Ti frames on
> > ebay. Anyway, I'm still a long way from matching my performances from
> > last fall.
> > How did you lose 3kg on the bike? That seems like an incredible amount
> > considering that your old one was pretty good.
>
> Maybe it's shiny red, a known 'fast color'.
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> * <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> * Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**

Matte white and satin black. Now I need a new helmet! Color
coordination has a slimming effect you know...

Joseph

joseph.santaniello@gmail.com

On May 3, 11:39*pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
wrote:
> datakoll aka GENE daniels wrote:
>
> > ITS ITS ITS MAGNESIUM
>
> > now we know why joe has feet larger than our feet ?
>
> A breakthrough in dietary science!
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

I try not to put my feet in my mouth. At least not both at the same
time.

Joseph

Colin Campbell

joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 2, 10:57 pm, Colin Campbell <cmca...@adelphia.net> wrote:
>> joseph.santanie...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On May 2, 8:52 pm, Colin Campbell <cmca...@adelphia.net> wrote:
>>>> Are you nuts? You've had a new bike for more than 60 seconds without
>>>> riding it? And I suppose I have to say "Happy Birthday" and
>>>> "Congratulations on hitting your weight loss target" to a guy who can
>>>> resist riding a new bike, too.
>>>> Part of what you experienced might be just because it's new. What have
>>>> you been riding? And which model Pinarello did you get, with what
>>>> components?
>>> Old bike was a 2005 Pinarello Galileo with Ultegra. New bike is Dogma
>>> with Dura Ace, but the same Ultegra Velocity Deep-V wheels. I got the
>>> frame in November, so I have been waiting for this day for a while.
>>> The old bike is in top condition, with new chain, cables, etc so it is
>>> functionally as new.
>>>> You lucky dog! I've been having to get excited about new shoes that we
>>>> were able to buy for half price on a club deal.
>>> If I could find shoes that fit...
>>> Joseph
>> Well, these shoes LOOK good; it remains to be seen how well they fit.
>>
>> DMT Magnesium shoes in white (I wasn't brave enough to go for the
>> Petacchi yellow). I learned that these shoes are incompatible with
>> Campagnolo Record Pro-Fit cleats. DMT said that they'll have a fix for
>> next model year; meanwhile, they say they are sending me special screws
>> from Italy.
>>
>> It took a trip to the bike shop and using some washers from some Shimano
>> cleats to get the cleats on. I haven't finished setting the position yet.
>
> Sweet! Don't drag your heel on the ground stretching your calves! The
> sparks could be disconcerting!
>
> Joseph

Right! It gives "burning up the road" or "flaming out" a whole new meaning.

The shoes actually have front and rear nylon walking aids. They can be
replaced; DMT supplied the tiniest Allen wrench I've ever seen to remove
and tighten the screws.

datakoll

WHY IS THAT ?

how cum ?

IT DOESN'T ROT WHEN YOU SNEEZE AT IT

why is that ? metallurgy

THEY PAINT IT NOW

datakoll

golly I do hope IT IS made from Magnesium

datakoll

his brother in law hijacked a truck full of it

datakoll

WHY ARE MAGNESIUM BIKES GOOD FOR TOURING IN COLD CLIMATES ?

Tom Sherman

datakoll aka gene daniels wrote:
>
> golly I do hope IT IS made from Magnesium

Or?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Tom Sherman

datakoll aka GENE DANIELS wrote:
>
> WHY ARE MAGNESIUM BIKES GOOD FOR TOURING IN COLD CLIMATES ?

You can burn the frame for heat in an emergency?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Tom Sherman

datakoll aka GeNe DaNiElS wrote:
>
> WHY IS THAT ?
>
It started out farther behind.

> how cum ?
>
Er, family newsgroup.

> IT DOESN'T ROT WHEN YOU SNEEZE AT IT
>
And that is nothing to sneeze at.

> why is that ? metallurgy
>
Ask Bourbon Man.

> THEY PAINT IT NOW
>
Indeed.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

datakoll

On May 3, 9:32*pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
wrote:
> datakoll aka GENE DANIELS wrote:
>
>
>
> > WHY ARE MAGNESIUM BIKES GOOD FOR TOURING IN COLD CLIMATES ?
>
> You can burn the frame for heat in an emergency?
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

YES !! and a free can of BLUBBER for Tom Sherman of Lower Canada

datakoll

costs too much to send the stuff to italy to get it hijacked by
Pinerallo's brother in law