If I were to promote the benefits of biking, I'd put a lady

Bill Z.

Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:


> >>>>>>> http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2...iCommercial.pdf

> Adobe® Clip Notes® as I posted above?

Oh, just to show what a fool Tom Sherman is, I used a program I have
that prints the HTTP response headers. Here's what you get:

Status: 200 OK
....
Content-Type: application/pdf
....
Content-Length: 2090466

Note the Content-Type header - it claims the file is a PDF file. The
extension ".pdf" is the extension normally used by a PDF file. So,
do you think it is surprising that my browser would try to open it
as a PDF file?

Nothing about some special "Adobe® Clip Notes®" format was given.


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Tom Sherman

Bill Zaumen wrote:
> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
>
>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2...iCommercial.pdf
>
>> Adobe® Clip Notes® as I posted above?
>
> Oh, just to show what a fool Tom Sherman is, I used a program I have
> that prints the HTTP response headers. Here's what you get:
>
> Status: 200 OK
> ...
> Content-Type: application/pdf
> ...
> Content-Length: 2090466
>
> Note the Content-Type header - it claims the file is a PDF file. The
> extension ".pdf" is the extension normally used by a PDF file. So,
> do you think it is surprising that my browser would try to open it
> as a PDF file?
>
> Nothing about some special "Adobe® Clip Notes®" format was given.
>
Yo Zaumen,

My browser also opens the link as a PDF.

When I go to the link, it says "Adobe® Clip Notes®" right above the
black box displayed on the page.

Furthermore, the dialog box that appears says, "This PDF uses Adobe Clip
Notes technology to allow you to review a movie and to add comments...."

Then player controls and a box to allow review comments appears below
the "black box" that allows one to play the video clip.

To bad computer expert Zaumen can not get his computer to work with the
web page, so he would not look like a fool for calling me a fool, since
everyone else who opens the page can clearly see the evidence of Adobe®
Clip Notes® being used on the page.

So who is the fool here?

Better luck next time.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

frkrygow@gmail.com

On May 3, 11:06 pm, nob...@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill Z.) wrote:
>
>
> When you use terms like "foam hats", your agenda is pretty damn obvious.
> ...
>
> "Lids", "magical protective properties" ... If you don't want
> to give that impression, you should cut out the loaded language.

Or in other words: Tom, stop thy blaspheming! Thou shalt use only
the proper, sacred language when referring to the revered headpiece!

Likewise, thou shalt not use science to examine the effects of the
revered head covering! Such is the way of the devil, you heretic!

;-)

- Frank Krygowski

Tom Sherman

frkrygow@gmail.com aka Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On May 3, 11:06 pm, nob...@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill Z.) wrote:
>>
>> When you use terms like "foam hats", your agenda is pretty damn obvious.
>> ...
>>
>> "Lids", "magical protective properties" ... If you don't want
>> to give that impression, you should cut out the loaded language.
>
> Or in other words: Tom, stop thy blaspheming! Thou shalt use only
> the proper, sacred language when referring to the revered headpiece!
>
> Likewise, thou shalt not use science to examine the effects of the
> revered head covering! Such is the way of the devil, you heretic!
>
butbutbut, it is fun to have the Liddites foam at the mouth!

It is refreshing to see a US bicycle dealer promote utility cycling,
showing someone without a foam hat and a load of groceries:
<http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2006LoriCommercial.pdf> [1]. However,
the "hi... hi" dialog is beyond cheesy.

[1] Link may not work for Linux or Mac users.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Rob Lindauer

Tom Sherman wrote:

> It is refreshing to see a US bicycle dealer promote utility cycling,
> showing someone without a foam hat and a load of groceries:
> <http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2006LoriCommercial.pdf> [1]. However,
> the "hi... hi" dialog is beyond cheesy.
>
> [1] Link may not work for Linux or Mac users.
>

Nor for those of us who refuse to use the bloated, invasive,
security-challenged Adobe Reader (as opposed, say, to Foxit).

--
Rob Lindauer - Please change "att" to "sbc" for my real email address

Bill Z.

Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:

> Bill Zaumen wrote:
> > Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
> >
> >> Liddite Bill Zaumen wrote:
> > (Infantile name calling from an idiot.)
> >
> Merely an accurate description, no?

Of you - and your behavior truly is infantile.

<rest of this idiot's rant snipped>

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

Bill Z.

frkrygow@gmail.com writes:

> On May 3, 11:06 pm, nob...@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill Z.) wrote:
> >
> >
> > When you use terms like "foam hats", your agenda is pretty damn obvious.
> > ...
> >
> > "Lids", "magical protective properties" ... If you don't want
> > to give that impression, you should cut out the loaded language.
>
> Or in other words: Tom, stop thy blaspheming! Thou shalt use only
> the proper, sacred language when referring to the revered headpiece!

Krygowksi, your sleazy tactics are as transparent and infantile as
Tom Sherman's. Maybe sometime you will actually have something
sensible to say, but I've yet to see a post from you where you
haven't tried to play childish games.

<snip>



--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

Bill Z.

Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:

> Bill Zaumen wrote:
> > Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
> >
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2...iCommercial.pdf
> >
> >> Adobe® Clip Notes® as I posted above?
> > Oh, just to show what a fool Tom Sherman is, I used a program I have
> > that prints the HTTP response headers. Here's what you get:
> > Status: 200 OK
> > ...
> > Content-Type: application/pdf
> > ...
> > Content-Length: 2090466
> > Note the Content-Type header - it claims the file is a PDF file. The
> > extension ".pdf" is the extension normally used by a PDF file. So,
> > do you think it is surprising that my browser would try to open it
> > as a PDF file?
> > Nothing about some special "Adobe® Clip Notes®" format was given.
> >
> Yo Zaumen,
>
> My browser also opens the link as a PDF.
>
> When I go to the link, it says "Adobe® Clip Notes®" right above the
> black box displayed on the page.

There is an RFC describing the PDF format. Adobe is going around
modifying it for business reasons, and those changes are not in
the standard. Is it any surprise that something doesn't work
when you aren't using Adobe products?


> Furthermore, the dialog box that appears says, "This PDF uses Adobe
> Clip Notes technology to allow you to review a movie and to add
> comments...."

..... nope - no such dialog box appears - not with my PDF viewer.
You showed your ignorance on that one - assuming your system behaves
like everyone else's.

> Then player controls and a box to allow review comments appears below
> the "black box" that allows one to play the video clip.

.... same thing ... new adobe product that "extends" a standard but
doesn't tell you.

> To bad computer expert Zaumen can not get his computer to work with
> the web page, so he would not look like a fool for calling me a fool,

No, you are are the fool. I simply don't bother with Adobe's viewer
for a variety of reasons, including package management. Read up on
it if you are not familiar with the concept.

Sherman, you really are an idiot.

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

Tom Sherman

Bill Zaumen wrote:
> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Bill Zaumen wrote:
>>> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Liddite Bill Zaumen wrote:
>>> (Infantile name calling from an idiot.)
>>>
>> Merely an accurate description, no?
>
> Of you - and your behavior truly is infantile.
>
> <rest of this idiot's rant snipped>
>
Anger management issues?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Tom Sherman

Bill Zaumen wrote:
> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Bill Zaumen wrote:
>>> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2...iCommercial.pdf
>>>> Adobe® Clip Notes® as I posted above?
>>> Oh, just to show what a fool Tom Sherman is, I used a program I have
>>> that prints the HTTP response headers. Here's what you get:
>>> Status: 200 OK
>>> ...
>>> Content-Type: application/pdf
>>> ...
>>> Content-Length: 2090466
>>> Note the Content-Type header - it claims the file is a PDF file. The
>>> extension ".pdf" is the extension normally used by a PDF file. So,
>>> do you think it is surprising that my browser would try to open it
>>> as a PDF file?
>>> Nothing about some special "Adobe® Clip Notes®" format was given.
>>>
>> Yo Zaumen,
>>
>> My browser also opens the link as a PDF.
>>
>> When I go to the link, it says "Adobe® Clip Notes®" right above the
>> black box displayed on the page.
>
> There is an RFC describing the PDF format. Adobe is going around
> modifying it for business reasons, and those changes are not in
> the standard. Is it any surprise that something doesn't work
> when you aren't using Adobe products?
>
You are the expert, no? I made no previous comment on the surprising
nature or lack thereof.
>
>> Furthermore, the dialog box that appears says, "This PDF uses Adobe
>> Clip Notes technology to allow you to review a movie and to add
>> comments...."
>
> .... nope - no such dialog box appears - not with my PDF viewer.

Well it does on mine (actually in the PDF window Firefox opens).

> You showed your ignorance on that one - assuming your system behaves
> like everyone else's.
>
I have not examined other people systems.

How the hell can it be ignorant to report exactly what one sees?
Zaumen's lack of logic here is truly bizarre.

>> Then player controls and a box to allow review comments appears below
>> the "black box" that allows one to play the video clip.
>
> ... same thing ... new adobe product that "extends" a standard but
> doesn't tell you.
>
So? Again for slow on the uptake, I am reporting on what happens on MY
system. Duh!

Adobe tells us the Clip Notes is being used by the logo and dialog box
appearing on the screen. Duh!

>> To bad computer expert Zaumen can not get his computer to work with
>> the web page, so he would not look like a fool for calling me a fool,
>
> No, you are are the fool. I simply don't bother with Adobe's viewer
> for a variety of reasons, including package management. Read up on
> it if you are not familiar with the concept.
>
No Zaumen, you are a fool for claiming I was a fool for saying Adobe®
Clip Notes® was involved, when the evidence of such is easily obtained
by anyone who system has Adobe's viewer installed.

You can not make an event that actually occurred go away just because
you think it should not have happened. Duh!

> Sherman, you really are an idiot.
>
Accurately reporting what appears on a computer monitor is a sign of
idiocy, just because it disagrees with The Great Bill Zaumen's
assumptions? WOW!

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

ComandanteBanana

Sincerely, guys, I think you are riding the wrong saddles that leave
you, you know with ED (impotence).

In this other forum, look what they say to the question,

"Are you in favor of using sex to sell biking?"

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=414469

Yep, 85% of them think is good.

The good news is that if you change the seat, it should be all right.
Look for the ones with the groove.

Norman Wilson

Bill Z. <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net>:
>There is an RFC describing the PDF format. Adobe is going around
>modifying it for business reasons, and those changes are not in
>the standard. Is it any surprise that something doesn't work
>when you aren't using Adobe products?

Can you cite the RFC number? The nearest I can find is RFC
3778, which is by no means a full description of the format;
rather it offers a few notes on usage and a pointer to the
separately-published (by Adobe, not by the IETF) PDF Reference
Manuals.

If the full specification has also been published by the IETF
I'd be interested to know where.

Norman Wilson
Toronto ON
--
To reply directly, expel `.edu'.

Bill Z.

Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:

> Bill Zaumen wrote:
> > Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
> >
> >> Bill Zaumen wrote:
> >>> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
> >>>
> >>>> Liddite Bill Zaumen wrote:
> >>> (Infantile name calling from an idiot.)
> >>>
> >> Merely an accurate description, no?
> > Of you - and your behavior truly is infantile.
> > <rest of this idiot's rant snipped>
> >
> Anger management issues?

No, time-management issues. If you want your posts to not
be treated as utter garbage, I suggest you not start them
with infantile name calling.


--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

Tom Sherman

Bill Zaumen wrote:
> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Bill Zaumen wrote:
>>> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Bill Zaumen wrote:
>>>>> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Liddite Bill Zaumen wrote:
>>>>> (Infantile name calling from an idiot.)
>>>>>
>>>> Merely an accurate description, no?
>>> Of you - and your behavior truly is infantile.
>>> <rest of this idiot's rant snipped>
>>>
>> Anger management issues?
>
> No, time-management issues. If you want your posts to not
> be treated as utter garbage, I suggest you not start them
> with infantile name calling.
>
In this case the term is merely descriptive, or does Mr. Zaumen deny he
believes foam bicycle headgear to provide significant protection against
serious head injury?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful