Mountain Biker Breaks Collarbone: Evolution at work!

Mike Vandeman

On Sat, 3 May 2008 03:26:31 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
<Siskuwihane1@gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 2, 11:53*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 17:58:17 -0700 (PDT), pmh <pmhil...@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Apr 29, 12:59 pm, Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Apr 29, 10:26 am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 04:21:41 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
>>
>> >> > <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >On Apr 28, 12:32 am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> >> > >> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:49:55 -0700 (PDT), pmh <pmhil...@verizon.net>
>> >> > >> wrote:
>>
>> >> > >> >A broken collarbone has less than zero correlation with genetic
>> >> > >> >variation through natural selection. Neither can be rationally
>> >> > >> >discussed in terms of the other.
>>
>> >> > >> Idiot. Injuries and death from mountain biking is natural selection at
>> >> > >> work, weeding out those with no morals and no sense.
>>
>> >> > >Like what happened to your cat because you had no morals or sense. A
>> >> > >poor animal had to die because of your supidity.
>>
>> >> > BS. He was run over by a car. I had nothing to do with it, AS YOU WELL
>> >> > KNOW, LIAR.
>>
>> >> Cats do not get outside on their own, irresponsible owners let them
>> >> out. You are an IRRESPONSIBLE PET OWNER.
>>
>> >In many jurisdictions a cat at large is the same offense as a dog at
>> >large.
>>
>> Name ONE such jurisdiction, liar.
>
>You're such an uninformed idiot, Michael J. Vandeman.
>
>http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cach...clnk&cd=3&gl=us

Very funny! What an ignorant Podunk!:

Harvard Facts

Population
2005

City of Harvard
8,968



>B.Running at Large:No dog or cat shall be permitted torun at large in
>the City.Dogs or cats, which are on any street,sidewalk, alley or
>other public place in the City without being held securely by a leash,
>shall be deemed to be running at large.(Ord. 2002-143,§3,2002)
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Mike Vandeman

On Sat, 03 May 2008 00:15:35 -0500, Tom Sherman
<sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:

>Mike Vandeman wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 18:50:36 -0700 (PDT), "maguahiker@gmail.com"
>> <maguahiker@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a quick quiz we will never see answers to because Mike will
>>> dodge again. The true answers are in caps. Of course those answers are
>>> subject to change depending on Mike's Depakote dosages.
>>>
>>> Did you fly or not? YES or no
>>> Did you lie about me being a mtber? YES or no
>>> Did you lie about other's occupations such as airline sources? YES or
>>> no
>>> Did you write a book? yes or NO
>>> Did you tell people you walked to an airport that is not possible to
>>> walk to in Australia? YES or no
>>> Is your website entirely quotes from others? YES or no
>>> Did you not say 'my country found me more valuable back home" in
>>> response to hiding from the draft? YES or no
>>> Are you the Swedish Chef from the muppets? yes or no
>>> Did you not keep a good eye on your poor cat? yes or no and with this
>>> question...cat's a detrimental to society when left outdoors and
>>> unfixed due to the needless killing off of animals not in the cycle.
>>> what kind of irresponsible fool would preach envirofriendly topics and
>>> do the opposite behind closed doors? a dishonest one like you.
>>> Do you not work for one of the worst companies that kill nature and
>>> trees in the name of technology? YES or no
>>>
>>> We could go on and on.
>>
>> That's easy: you are wrong on all counts. Of course, liar.
>>
>> Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED:
>>
>> "I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
>> trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
>> a laugh.
>>
>> http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"
>>
>> You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.
>
>Dude,
>
>"Vanderman" (sic) is NOT the same as "Vandeman" (sic). Notice that one
>has an "r" and the other does not.

That only means that he can't spell, NOR tell the truth.
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Mike Vandeman

On Sat, 3 May 2008 03:27:39 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
<Siskuwihane1@gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 2, 11:55*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 18:50:36 -0700 (PDT), "maguahi...@gmail.com"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <maguahi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Here's a quick quiz we will never see answers to because Mike will
>> >dodge again. The true answers are in caps. Of course those answers are
>> >subject to change depending on Mike's Depakote dosages.
>>
>> >Did you fly or not? YES or no
>> >Did you lie about me being a mtber? YES or no
>> >Did you lie about other's occupations such as airline sources? YES or
>> >no
>> >Did you write a book? yes or NO
>> >Did you tell people you walked to an airport that is not possible to
>> >walk to in Australia? YES or no
>> >Is your website entirely quotes from others? YES or no
>> >Did you not say 'my country found me more valuable back home" in
>> >response to hiding from the draft? YES or no
>> >Are you the Swedish Chef from the muppets? yes or no
>> >Did you not keep a good eye on your poor cat? yes or no and with this
>> >question...cat's a detrimental to society when left outdoors and
>> >unfixed due to the needless killing off of animals not in the cycle.
>> >what kind of irresponsible fool would preach envirofriendly topics and
>> >do the opposite behind closed doors? a dishonest one like you.
>> >Do you not work for one of the worst companies that kill nature and
>> >trees in the name of technology? YES or no
>>
>> >We could go on and on.
>>
>> That's easy: you are wrong on all counts. Of course, liar.
>>
>> Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED:
>>
>> "I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
>> trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
>> a laugh.
>>
>> http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"
>>
>> You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.
>
>Michael J. Vandeman, why did you lie and post that I worked for an
>airline?

Show me where I said that, liar.
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Mike Vandeman

Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED:

"I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
a laugh.

http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"

You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.
--
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Mike Vandeman

On Sat, 03 May 2008 14:33:38 GMT, "JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net> wrote:

>Exactly the response I would expect from an unprincipled lying hypocrite
>lacking humanity and social responsibility.
>
>Here's a more clearly worded "threat" Mike.
>
>Can't wait to meet you so I can transform your face into hamburger.

.... because?

>Note it, report it, forward it to the FBI, SFPD, and/or anyone else
>you think might actually give a crap about your continued existence.
>Depressingly short list I'm sure.
>
>JP
>
>
--
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Mike Vandeman

On Sat, 03 May 2008 08:04:46 -0500, Tom Sherman
<sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:

>maguahiker@gmail.com wrote:
>> [...]
>> ANSWER THEM DIRECTLY. You just lied about all of them just now when
>> you said I was wrong on all accounts. You prior answers are all out
>> there in past posts. You are a liar.
>> Perhaps the worst accusation you have ever made against me is
>> here.......why is this included in answer to my post. I never asked
>> you this? Are you lying again? Those words were never said by me yet
>> are included in your response to me. I have never threatened you. you
>> should at least admit that you are wrong here. This is a simple forum
>> and you are now accusing me of threats. You're not worthy of a threat.
>> no man is. You cut and pasted that in there and that was not my post.
>>
>>> May you receive all that you deserve.
>>
>> Your threat is duly noted, hypocrite.[...]
>
>If you really want to get to Mikey V., I suggest investing in a decent
>hard-tail MTB, and finding some beginner level trails to start out on.
>
>I suggest the hard-tail, since it will be about half the price of a
>similar quality full-suspension bike - for beginner use you should be
>able to find a proper bike in the $600-700 range. No need for anything
>better unless you get the bug and want to tackle the more technical
>stuff. Just moderate trail/fire road riding away from urban areas has
>its own attractions.

Break a leg!
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Siskuwihane

On May 17, 12:25*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 3 May 2008 03:27:39 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
>
>
>
>
>
> <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 2, 11:55*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2 May 2008 18:50:36 -0700 (PDT), "maguahi...@gmail.com"
>
> >> <maguahi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Here's a quick quiz we will never see answers to because Mike will
> >> >dodge again. The true answers are in caps. Of course those answers are
> >> >subject to change depending on Mike's Depakote dosages.
>
> >> >Did you fly or not? YES or no
> >> >Did you lie about me being a mtber? YES or no
> >> >Did you lie about other's occupations such as airline sources? YES or
> >> >no
> >> >Did you write a book? yes or NO
> >> >Did you tell people you walked to an airport that is not possible to
> >> >walk to in Australia? YES or no
> >> >Is your website entirely quotes from others? YES or no
> >> >Did you not say 'my country found me more valuable back home" in
> >> >response to hiding from the draft? YES or no
> >> >Are you the Swedish Chef from the muppets? yes or no
> >> >Did you not keep a good eye on your poor cat? yes or no and with this
> >> >question...cat's a detrimental to society when left outdoors and
> >> >unfixed due to the needless killing off of animals not in the cycle.
> >> >what kind of irresponsible fool would preach envirofriendly topics and
> >> >do the opposite behind closed doors? a dishonest one like you.
> >> >Do you not work for one of the worst companies that kill nature and
> >> >trees in the name of technology? YES or no
>
> >> >We could go on and on.
>
> >> That's easy: you are wrong on all counts. Of course, liar.
>
> >> Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED:
>
> >> "I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
> >> trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
> >> a laugh.
>
> >>http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"
>
> >> You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.
>
> >Michael J. Vandeman, why did you lie and post that I worked for an
> >airline?
>
> Show me where I said that, liar.


Sure, no problem.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt....da67c3cd81ea3dd

Michael J. Vandeman wrote:

"We psychologists call that "Projection". Obviously, you have more
familiarity with parking than I do, since I don't own a car and since
you work for an airline. DUH! "

Look's like you are the liar, again.

Siskuwihane

On May 17, 12:27*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED:
>
> "I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
> trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
> a laugh.
>
> http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"
>
> You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.
> --

Mike , why did you lie and post that I worked for an airline? Why are
you so dishonest?

Michael J. Vandeman wrote:

"We psychologists call that "Projection". Obviously, you have more
familiarity with parking than I do, since I don't own a car and since
you work for an airline. DUH!"

Siskuwihane

On May 17, 12:24*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 3 May 2008 03:26:31 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
>
>
>
>
>
> <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 2, 11:53*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2 May 2008 17:58:17 -0700 (PDT), pmh <pmhil...@verizon.net>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Apr 29, 12:59 pm, Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Apr 29, 10:26 am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 04:21:41 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
>
> >> >> > <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > >On Apr 28, 12:32 am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >> >> > >> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:49:55 -0700 (PDT), pmh <pmhil...@verizon..net>
> >> >> > >> wrote:
>
> >> >> > >> >A broken collarbone has less than zero correlation with genetic
> >> >> > >> >variation through natural selection. Neither can be rationally
> >> >> > >> >discussed in terms of the other.
>
> >> >> > >> Idiot. Injuries and death from mountain biking is natural selection at
> >> >> > >> work, weeding out those with no morals and no sense.
>
> >> >> > >Like what happened to your cat because you had no morals or sense.. A
> >> >> > >poor animal had to die because of your supidity.
>
> >> >> > BS. He was run over by a car. I had nothing to do with it, AS YOU WELL
> >> >> > KNOW, LIAR.
>
> >> >> Cats do not get outside on their own, irresponsible owners let them
> >> >> out. You are an IRRESPONSIBLE PET OWNER.
>
> >> >In many jurisdictions a cat at large is the same offense as a dog at
> >> >large.
>
> >> Name ONE such jurisdiction, liar.
>
> >You're such an uninformed idiot, Michael J. Vandeman.
>
> >http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cach...cityofharvard.o....
>
> Very funny! What an ignorant Podunk!:
>
> Harvard Facts
>
> Population
> 2005
>
> City of Harvard
> 8,968
>
> >B.Running at Large:No dog or cat shall be permitted torun at large in
> >the City.Dogs or cats, which are on any street,sidewalk, alley or
> >other public place in the City without being held securely by a leash,
> >shall be deemed to be running at large.(Ord. 2002-143,§3,2002)
>

Looks like you were proven wrong...again.

Mike Vandeman

On Sat, 17 May 2008 04:36:26 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
<Siskuwihane1@gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 17, 12:25*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 May 2008 03:27:39 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On May 2, 11:55*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 2 May 2008 18:50:36 -0700 (PDT), "maguahi...@gmail.com"
>>
>> >> <maguahi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >Here's a quick quiz we will never see answers to because Mike will
>> >> >dodge again. The true answers are in caps. Of course those answers are
>> >> >subject to change depending on Mike's Depakote dosages.
>>
>> >> >Did you fly or not? YES or no
>> >> >Did you lie about me being a mtber? YES or no
>> >> >Did you lie about other's occupations such as airline sources? YES or
>> >> >no
>> >> >Did you write a book? yes or NO
>> >> >Did you tell people you walked to an airport that is not possible to
>> >> >walk to in Australia? YES or no
>> >> >Is your website entirely quotes from others? YES or no
>> >> >Did you not say 'my country found me more valuable back home" in
>> >> >response to hiding from the draft? YES or no
>> >> >Are you the Swedish Chef from the muppets? yes or no
>> >> >Did you not keep a good eye on your poor cat? yes or no and with this
>> >> >question...cat's a detrimental to society when left outdoors and
>> >> >unfixed due to the needless killing off of animals not in the cycle.
>> >> >what kind of irresponsible fool would preach envirofriendly topics and
>> >> >do the opposite behind closed doors? a dishonest one like you.
>> >> >Do you not work for one of the worst companies that kill nature and
>> >> >trees in the name of technology? YES or no
>>
>> >> >We could go on and on.
>>
>> >> That's easy: you are wrong on all counts. Of course, liar.
>>
>> >> Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED:
>>
>> >> "I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
>> >> trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
>> >> a laugh.
>>
>> >>http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"
>>
>> >> You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.
>>
>> >Michael J. Vandeman, why did you lie and post that I worked for an
>> >airline?
>>
>> Show me where I said that, liar.
>
>
>Sure, no problem.
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt....da67c3cd81ea3dd
>
>Michael J. Vandeman wrote:
>
>"We psychologists call that "Projection". Obviously, you have more
>familiarity with parking than I do, since I don't own a car and since
>you work for an airline. DUH! "
>
>Look's like you are the liar, again.

So whom DO you work for?
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Mike Vandeman

On Sat, 17 May 2008 04:38:50 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
<Siskuwihane1@gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 17, 12:27*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED:
>>
>> "I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
>> trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
>> a laugh.
>>
>> http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"
>>
>> You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.
>> --
>
>Mike , why did you lie and post that I worked for an airline? Why are
>you so dishonest?

So whom DO you work for?
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Siskuwihane

On May 18, 12:11*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 17 May 2008 04:38:50 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
>
> <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 17, 12:27*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >> Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED:
>
> >> "I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
> >> trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
> >> a laugh.
>
> >>http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"
>
> >> You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.
> >> --
>
> >Mike , why did you lie and post that I worked for an airline? Why are
> >you so dishonest?
>
> So whom DO you work for?

Tell us why you lied about my employemnt, Michael J. Vandeman?

maguahiker@gmail.com

>>So whom DO you work for?

Boy you are DUMB mikey. His name is everywhere out there you bonehead,
you just need to do the research. He works for a conservation group
that is non-profit as a leading ecologist/researching project
coordinator and you even quote him on you site in one of your "nature
promotion" quotes that has nothing to do with mountain biking. I am
surprised he hasn't tossed that in your face but we just joke about it
because you're such an ass.

I can tell you he doesn't work for a technology corporation that rapes
the landscape in the name of innovation like you do Mike!!!! And
regarding proving your lies...it would take all day for me to link
it.

I am not sure if you guys saw this picture of mike VANDERMAN...but I
found it on the web.
http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg

Mike Vandeman

On Sun, 18 May 2008 16:32:03 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
<Siskuwihane1@gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 18, 12:11*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 May 2008 04:38:50 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
>>
>> <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On May 17, 12:27*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> >> Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED:
>>
>> >> "I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
>> >> trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
>> >> a laugh.
>>
>> >>http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"
>>
>> >> You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.
>> >> --
>>
>> >Mike , why did you lie and post that I worked for an airline? Why are
>> >you so dishonest?
>>
>> So whom DO you work for?
>
>Tell us why you lied about my employemnt, Michael J. Vandeman?

Until you tell us whom you work for, we don't know whether you work
for an airline or not. Your hesitance to tell the truth is obvious and
telling.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande