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Old 01-05.-2008, 03:01 AM   #46
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- what the !!!?????? Is he farking mad ? How can he live like this.....

He's pretty sad. Clinging to denial. Afraid that if he owns up to being a liar, he will lose all the people who have said that they believe in him. Which is true. It's so pathetic hearing the lies though that only the truly deluded/ignorant would sill swallow at this stage.

If you have a sport where you have to lie and cheat to get to the top because these are the unwritten rules.... this is what you usually get at the end of the "top pro assembly line". He won't be happy though until he starts being honest. The rest of his life will be a facade, like it was before he got revealed as a doper (though then he had less disbelievers than now).
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He's pretty sad. Clinging to denial. Afraid that if he owns up to being a liar, he will lose all the people who have said that they believe in him. Which is true. It's so pathetic hearing the lies though that only the truly deluded/ignorant would sill swallow at this stage.

If you have a sport where you have to lie and cheat to get to the top because these are the unwritten rules.... this is what you usually get at the end of the "top pro assembly line". He won't be happy though until he starts being honest. The rest of his life will be a facade, like it was before he got revealed as a doper (though then he had less disbelievers than now).

you are not calling Whareagle deluded nor ignorant?

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you are not calling Whareagle deluded nor ignorant?

Whareagle is both. And he's also a half-baked coach, much like Carmichael.
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Old 01-05.-2008, 03:10 AM   #49
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Whareagle is both. And he's also a half-baked coach, much like Carmichael.
Actually, deep down, Rich Wharton knows Tyler is a doper. There is a cognitive dissonance, this whole charade is about Rich Wharton and manifested with the whacky Hamilton defense. Just projecting some personality flaws.

Come on Whareagle, say it ain't say. Tell us you know the truth dude.
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My favorite is the Michael Ball radio interview around the ToC that was posted here. When Ball said to the DJ's that he went up to Hamilton and had a talk with him about putting his doping past behind him. Then the DJ's straight away asked if that meant Tyler was finally admitting his guilt, and Ball quickly backtracked. But it was obvious that Ball believed he doped, and that Tyler knew that Ball believed he doped... and that Ball and him had had a conversation where Tyler's guilt was a given.

I'm not familiar with whareagle's posting history.
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My favorite is the Michael Ball radio interview around the ToC that was posted here. When Ball said to the DJ's that he went up to Hamilton and had a talk with him about putting his doping past behind him. Then the DJ's straight away asked if that meant Tyler was finally admitting his guilt, and Ball quickly backtracked. But it was obvious that Ball believed he doped, and that Tyler knew that Ball believed he doped... and that Ball and him had had a conversation where Tyler's guilt was a given.

I'm not familiar with whareagle's posting history.

it would have been an interesting conversation.

I wonder if he left it open, if Hamilton chose to dope on RR. I assume he did. I very much doubt he said "but we cant have you dope on small cock and republic.
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- what the !!!?????? Is he farking mad ? How can he live like this.....

It sounds like Hamilton wants to just move on and put this shit behind him. He is also well aware that a large number of fans consider him a douche.

Maybe he truly is happy to be racing again. I would not doubt it.
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maybe you should tell Rogers that he is riding for Kirchen.

Nope, Rogers will be supported ably by Lovqvist, Kirchen and Gerdemann. It was a weak field last year when Gerdemann came second in Switzerland and top 10 at the Tour, he also got some time on the Vino stage in a break.

No way you ride for him.

If Rogers is healthy he is the man. He came tenth 2 years ago in support of Kloden, and Kirchen could not even break the TMobile squad.
Any word on Roger's current health? One would think he would need to start doing a bit of racing to be on form for the Tour.
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