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Old 04-07.-2008, 04:36 AM   #466
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Class act indeed
Proof enough that Frank cannot be trusted with anything related to privacy.
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Old 04-07.-2008, 06:22 AM   #467
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I thought this was even classier (not):

"When he had his brain surgery they removed the part of the brain where he remembered his improvements he had reported."
Hey, at least that explanation for his behavior doesn't involve substantial character defects.

I suspect you have sponsors. Would you ever treat any of your sponsors in that fashion?
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Old 04-07.-2008, 06:58 AM   #468
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Hey, at least that explanation for his behavior doesn't involve substantial character defects.


And so the character assassination continues...

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I suspect you have sponsors.


Nothing formal (in part because I prefer to maintain my independence).

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That would depend on how the sponsor treated me.
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Sponsorship is a two way street.. Wonder what happened (outside of brain surgery, yeah good one Frank) to make him act that way.
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Sponsorship is a two way street.. Wonder what happened (outside of brain surgery, yeah good one Frank) to make him act that way.
Well, why don't you ask him. I think he would be hard pressed to point to something we did to cause him to post what he did.

We had essentially zero contact with him for the last several months and the last contact we had was positive, although we were trying to convince him he would benefit from them more if he used the cranks more than he was using them (he was using them essentially just for warm up and cool-down. Even though he did, apparently, take them outside and do some longer rides he never got to the point of transitioning to where these became "easier" and more like regular cranks in effort). In one e-mail we gave him the example of Marco Pinnotti, who started them about the same time he did and was blogging he had gone way beyond Pete's abilities with them and seeing advantage as a result.

We simply suggest to our athletes ways we think they could use the product better. We never argue with success though and if someone is successful they can use them however they think is most beneficial for them. If he had won this year and gone slower than the year before, we wouldn't have cared much from a sponsorship perspective, as long as we could tout his achievement and he was happy with our product.

Instead, he got faster, to which a strong arguement can be made the PC's had a substantial role to play in that improvement from numbers he supplied himself to us, yet he posted in a public forum that they were garbage and our efforts to tout the achievement of this sponsored athlete was thrown back in our face as a lie because of this post. Needless to say, I was not very happy.

So, ask him. Only he can know.
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