It's like a jungle out there for bike riders

Frank

"Jim" <alchem@en.com> wrote in message
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>> It doesn't sound much like my experience. I don't find I'm "under
>> attack", and furthermore that if I give drivers due consideration then I
>> get due consideration back (just as when I'm driving, I give cyclists
>> due consideration and get it back).
>>
>> Go out there spoiling for a fight and you'll find one though.
>>
>> Pete.
>>
> I have to agree with Pete in this regard. I have been riding a bike
> around town and for 5 years commuting to work and in 30 years have
> never once had a problem with drivers. Pedestrians are another
> matter. When I rode a motorcycle I learned to be very visible.
>>

I use to commute to work until I felt sick breathing poison from the
tailpipes during rush hours. Many close calls from drivers not paying
attention. Then there were a few drivers who intentionally run bikes off the
road or cause an accident.

On the other hand we have Critical Mass with thousands of bicyclists amassed
in downtown San Francisco during Friday rush hour. No idea what the protest
was but sure pissed off thousands of commuters who just wanted to go home.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Mass

ComandanteBanana

On Apr 26, 1:50*pm, " Frank" <norep...@nothome.net> wrote:
> "ComandanteBanana" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > And it ain't because I'm picking on NYC because the same thing is
> > happening in my city or any other American city. But bad reputations
> > are hard to get rid of...
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> > 'Riding in NYC is pretty scary. Many people are driving without a
> > license and/or without insurance, and that's not even touching on all
> > the trucks and vans speeding along making deliveries and not really
> > giving a damn about who's around them. Most drivers are extremely
> > aggressive and subconsciously, they drive in attack mode. They will
> > only think of the consequences after they hit you, and even though you
> > may have been "right" , you're already in the hospital or dead.
> > I learned my lesson by seeing too many accidents already.........I
> > simply assume that most drivers are going to try and speed through a
> > fresh red light or that a car door will swing open without someone
> > looking to see if anything is coming.'
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> >http://www.dahon.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4088
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I think that's an American desease. I had one of those in a little Geo
Tracker I had, but was able to follow the guys. I was lucky to recover
500 bucks on the spot.

ComandanteBanana

On Apr 26, 2:12*pm, " Frank" <norep...@nothome.net> wrote:
> "Jim" <alc...@en.com> wrote in message
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> news:7d1a62c3-b9cc-40d8-b934-4fa1344bcf67@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
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> >> It doesn't sound much like my experience. *I don't find I'm "under
> >> attack", and furthermore that if I give drivers due consideration then I
> >> get due consideration back (just as when I'm driving, I give cyclists
> >> due consideration and get it back).
>
> >> Go out there spoiling for a fight and you'll find one though.
>
> >> Pete.
>
> > I have to agree with Pete in this regard. *I have been riding a bike
> > around town and for 5 years commuting to work and in 30 years have
> > never once had a problem with drivers. *Pedestrians are another
> > matter. *When I rode a motorcycle I learned to be very visible.
>
> I use to commute to work until I felt sick breathing poison from the
> tailpipes during rush hours. Many close calls from drivers not paying
> attention. Then there were a few drivers who intentionally run bikes off the
> road or cause an accident.
>
> On the other hand we have Critical Mass with thousands of bicyclists amassed
> in downtown San Francisco during Friday rush hour. No idea what the protest
> was but sure pissed off thousands of commuters who just wanted to go home.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Mass

I think those are rather wild monkeys. They scare people instead of
winning them over.

We should occupy one and only one lane. Just the fair share away from
the lion's share the cars currently hold.

Gunner Asch

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:36:43 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Apr 25, 1:02*pm, Gunner <gun...@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:19:27 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
>>
>> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >So it is that cyclists must stay in
>> >constant alert for predators, like the monkeys of the jungle.
>>
>> Monkeys are well known for throwing shit at passers by and making lots
>> of noise.
>>
>> Perhaps that explains some of the posts from bike riders?
>>
>> Perhaps yall may now have some grasp of the thinking of a longtailed
>> cat, in a room full of rocking chairs?
>>
>> Gunner
>
>The monkeys --sorry the cyclists-- you are talking about are the ones
>in lycra. They are much noiser than the commuter type. And don't eat
>peanuts.


True indeed Most commuter types are interested in surviving to make
it home, or to work.

Its the lycra'd "purists" and endorphine addicts that are the biggest
problem. Those and the homeless drunks/druggies that have to resort
to a second hand store Huffy to make their rounds as they lost their
DLs years ago.

Hum...sometimes its hard to tell them apart, but for the clothing.

Gunner

Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Gunner Asch

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:54:54 +1000, Aeek <aeeeeeek@tpg.com.au> wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:02:56 -0700, Gunner
><gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
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>>On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:19:27 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
>><nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>So it is that cyclists must stay in
>>>constant alert for predators, like the monkeys of the jungle.
>>
>>Monkeys are well known for throwing shit at passers by and making lots
>>of noise.
>>
>>Perhaps that explains some of the posts from bike riders?
>
>What, because of the morons who like to throw things from cars?

Those morons should be shot. Assault with a deadly weapon is the crime
when something is thrown at a rider.

I had a beer bottle miss my head by inches once tossed by an illegal
immigrant in a pickup truck.

His truck became disabled shortly thereafter, and he was too, not
long after that.

Gunner


Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Gunner Asch

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:40:33 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Apr 25, 1:17*pm, Gunner <gun...@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:19:27 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
>>
>> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >*Riding a bike is good for the environment, great for peace, and
>> >excellent for your health. We need facilities, though, like BIKE LANES
>> >to be safe.
>>
>> Yes Indeed.
>>
>> Btw..we managed to successfully avoid the democracy trap here in the
>> US, fortunately the Founders realized how dangerous a democracy is,
>> and gave us a constitutional republic.
>
>I just have a problem with the language "by the people and for the
>people..."
>
>I wonder what the type of democracy they are exporting to Iraq... ???


If you paid attention to the news, you would know they are exporting a
consitutional republic as well. Its the only thing that actually
works.

Gunner

Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.