VIDEO: Find out Today that the Holocaust is a Huge Fraud

RHF

On Apr 25, 4:46*am, Clyde Penquin <penguink...@springmind.com> wrote:
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> > "St Georges Day April 23rd" <bbbbbdfgdfgdgd...@googlemail.com> wrote in
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> >> Judea Declares War on Germany: A Critical Look at the Holocaust and
> >> How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel wartime
> >> propaganda? This fascinating documentary investigates the myths
> >> surrounding the legend.
>
> > Sod off Max.
>
> <coffee. *keyboard, monitor, desk. *much coffee.>

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AC

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On Apr 25, 1:55 am, "AC" <x...@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> "St Georges Day April 23rd" <bbbbbdfgdfgdgd...@googlemail.com> wrote in
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>
> > Judea Declares War on Germany: A Critical Look at the Holocaust and
> > WWII
>
> >http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...774203343&hl=en
>
> > How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel wartime
> > propaganda? This fascinating documentary investigates the myths
> > surrounding the legend.
>
> >www.ihr.org
>
> Sod off Max.
>
> AC

Brian Robertson

St Georges Day April 23rd wrote:
> Judea Declares War on Germany: A Critical Look at the Holocaust and
> WWII
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...774203343&hl=en
>
> How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel wartime
> propaganda? This fascinating documentary investigates the myths
> surrounding the legend.
>
> www.ihr.org

Has anyone else ever noticed this simple truth: the people who are
keenest to deny the holocaust are always the most likely people to want
to repeat it.

Brian.

Kimi Fan

On Apr 25, 8:24 pm, St Georges Day April 23rd
<bbbbbdfgdfgdgd...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Judea Declares War on Germany: A Critical Look at the Holocaust and
> WWII
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...774203343&hl=en
>
> How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel wartime
> propaganda? This fascinating documentary investigates the myths
> surrounding the legend.
>
> www.ihr.org

There is nothing new, or interesting, about denying the holocaust.
Idiots like this have been denying it for years and it is infact a
crime to do so in many countries you stupid bigot.

I hope you rot in Hell after your prison sentence. Ive reported you to
google and I suggest others do too.

Brenda Ann

"Kimi Fan" <kimisbest@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 25, 8:24 pm, St Georges Day April 23rd
> <bbbbbdfgdfgdgd...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Judea Declares War on Germany: A Critical Look at the Holocaust and
>> WWII
>>
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...774203343&hl=en
>>
>> How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel wartime
>> propaganda? This fascinating documentary investigates the myths
>> surrounding the legend.
>>
>> www.ihr.org
>
> There is nothing new, or interesting, about denying the holocaust.
> Idiots like this have been denying it for years and it is infact a
> crime to do so in many countries you stupid bigot.
>
> I hope you rot in Hell after your prison sentence. Ive reported you to
> google and I suggest others do too.

I myself find it interesting that some try to deny the Holocaust, when even
those most directly involved in it did not/do not. Many at Nuremburg bragged
about how and how many they killed, many more admitted to it and said "I was
following orders." Germany is one of those countries wherein it is illegal
to deny the Holocaust. Why would they make this the case if they had not
actually been involved in it?

harvey

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FB

"Brian Robertson" <brianro@[nospam].com> wrote
news:EXuQj.59610$h65.57697@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> St Georges Day April 23rd wrote:
>> Judea Declares War on Germany: A Critical Look at the Holocaust and
>> WWII
>>
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...774203343&hl=en
>>
>> How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel wartime
>> propaganda? This fascinating documentary investigates the myths
>> surrounding the legend.
>>
>> www.ihr.org
>
> Has anyone else ever noticed this simple truth: the people who are keenest
> to deny the holocaust are always the most likely people to want to repeat
> it.
>
> Brian.

really?
the closest event to the holocaust is the killing of civilians in
Palestine...
the perpetrators are not "deniers", au contraire...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7335875.stm

FB

Bob Campbell

"FB" <no.spam@for.me.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Brian Robertson" <brianro@[nospam].com> wrote
> news:EXuQj.59610$h65.57697@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>> St Georges Day April 23rd wrote:
>>> Judea Declares War on Germany: A Critical Look at the Holocaust and
>>> WWII
>>>
>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...774203343&hl=en
>>>
>>> How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel wartime
>>> propaganda? This fascinating documentary investigates the myths
>>> surrounding the legend.
>>>
>>> www.ihr.org
>>
>> Has anyone else ever noticed this simple truth: the people who are
>> keenest to deny the holocaust are always the most likely people to want
>> to repeat it.
>>
>> Brian.
>
> really?
> the closest event to the holocaust is the killing of civilians in
> Palestine...
> the perpetrators are not "deniers", au contraire...

You mean the Muslim nutcases who blow up themselves and civilians at
bustops, shopping centers and restaurants? Yes, that is a holocaust.

Bigbird

Bob Campbell wrote:

> "FB" <no.spam@for.me.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >"Brian Robertson" <brianro@[nospam].com> wrote
> news:EXuQj.59610$h65.57697@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> > > St Georges Day April 23rd wrote:
> > > > Judea Declares War on Germany: A Critical Look at the Holocaust
> > > > and WWII
> > > >
> > > >
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...774203343&hl=en
> > > >
> > > > How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel
> > > > wartime propaganda? This fascinating documentary investigates
> > > > the myths surrounding the legend.
> > > >
> > > > www.ihr.org
> > >
> > > Has anyone else ever noticed this simple truth: the people who
> > > are keenest to deny the holocaust are always the most likely
> > > people to want to repeat it.
> > >
> > > Brian.
> >
> > really?
> > the closest event to the holocaust is the killing of civilians in
> > Palestine... the perpetrators are not "deniers", au contraire...
>
> You mean the Muslim nutcases who blow up themselves and civilians at
> bustops, shopping centers and restaurants? Yes, that is a holocaust.

Ignorance and racism like yours is what made the holocaust possible.

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On 26 Apr, 01:42, "Brenda Ann" <bren...@shinbiro.com> wrote:
> "Kimi Fan" <kimisb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> I myself find it interesting that some try to deny the Holocaust, when even
> those most directly involved in it did not/do not. Many at Nuremburg bragged
> about how and how many they killed, many more admitted to it and said "I was
> following orders." *Germany is one of those countries wherein it is illegal
> to deny the Holocaust. *Why would they make this the case if they had not
> actually been involved in it?

Well, more than interesting, I'd say it's to say the least expected.
It isn't really a matter of wether it happened or not, not even for
those keen on denying it. Looking at the documentary (which I ahd
already seen quite a while back) it seems clear that the "creators"
had some form of agenda of their own. They probably even said some
true things, at that. The fact is it really doesn't matter wether it
has happened or not. For hsitory, it's a simple fact. It is also a
fact that history is ALWAYS "written" by the winning party. This does
not necesarely mean that history is doctored, however it is likelly
that some things are told in a way to favour the winning forces, it's
a natural progression of history and humanity. Clearly, had the Nazi
won, there is a good chance we'd all now be here being gratefull that
the legendary Fuhrer eradicated the Jewish pest.

The more interesting thing is instead the presence of laws banning
denyial. That's a fairly bad practice, as it's in the end just, if
silly, an opinion. This again conncts to the concept of history being
mastered by the winners. Documentaries like the one linked by the
opening post are interesting, in the same way UFO docs and the like
are. Looking at the "unofficial" spin on things can be interesting,
and at times can help get a wider look at a situation. Doesn't make it
true, though.

Now, did the Holocaust happen? Well, we've always been told it has
(I'm 20, wasn't there -and I'm glad of that-) so why should we
question it? there is evidence, and witnesses. All the eveidence could
have been faked, and perpetrators and witnesses coerced in their
confessions/witnesses, BUT that seems like quite a titanic effort...
at that point we could also claim that WWII never happened, and that
all evidence is manufactured. In the end, for a person like me, who is
just 20 and hasn't lived even remotly the horrors of WWII wether it
did happen (not only the Holocaust, but the war as a whole) is not the
most important thing. for as hard as I can try, I have no true felt
feeling for that period, as I lost nobody I knew in it nor did I
suffer any pain, so for me it has never happened (in the sense that
having not lived it, it has a feeling comparable to an event told in a
novel to me). What is vital nowadays is that the knowledge of what has
happened (or what is said to have happened) is metabolised in
something useful, such as the repulsion for war and other such events.
Wether the holocaust happened or not, it is unclaimable that an event
like it is an acceptable thing in any case, era or situation. If that
is understood, it is good. If people (even only one) can beleave that
it has been (or could be) a good solution to something, then wether it
already happened or not looses even more importance, as a new
occourrence of it would overshadow any past one.

Sometimes too much effort is spent in being sorry for the past, and
not enough is done to avoid falling in the same pitfalls again, and
that is truly horrible. A few people going around making documentaries
regarding the never-occourance of the Holocaust are nothing compared
to that.

This all said, it was definitely a post (the op, and perhaps mine too)
which would have found better housing elsewhere. Anyhow, I posted this
anyways as the thread has already been bumped out of spam bin for many
users, and anyone who has the unfortunate habit of blocking all google
groups posters won't be bothered by this either.

PS: since it seems from previous psots I've made that my rushed
writing seems to leave my writing too open to interpretation I'll make
one point clear: I am convinced that the Holocaust in fact did take
place, and do not agree with the negationist's views.

Kimi Fan

On Apr 26, 2:59 pm, emuLOAD <AndreaSassane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 26 Apr, 01:42, "Brenda Ann" <bren...@shinbiro.com> wrote:
>
> > "Kimi Fan" <kimisb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > I myself find it interesting that some try to deny the Holocaust, when even
> > those most directly involved in it did not/do not. Many at Nuremburg bragged
> > about how and how many they killed, many more admitted to it and said "I was
> > following orders." Germany is one of those countries wherein it is illegal
> > to deny the Holocaust. Why would they make this the case if they had not
> > actually been involved in it?
>
> Well, more than interesting, I'd say it's to say the least expected.
> It isn't really a matter of wether it happened or not, not even for
> those keen on denying it. Looking at the documentary (which I ahd
> already seen quite a while back) it seems clear that the "creators"
> had some form of agenda of their own. They probably even said some
> true things, at that. The fact is it really doesn't matter wether it
> has happened or not. For hsitory, it's a simple fact. It is also a
> fact that history is ALWAYS "written" by the winning party. This does
> not necesarely mean that history is doctored, however it is likelly
> that some things are told in a way to favour the winning forces, it's
> a natural progression of history and humanity. Clearly, had the Nazi
> won, there is a good chance we'd all now be here being gratefull that
> the legendary Fuhrer eradicated the Jewish pest.
>
> The more interesting thing is instead the presence of laws banning
> denyial. That's a fairly bad practice, as it's in the end just, if
> silly, an opinion. This again conncts to the concept of history being
> mastered by the winners. Documentaries like the one linked by the
> opening post are interesting, in the same way UFO docs and the like
> are. Looking at the "unofficial" spin on things can be interesting,
> and at times can help get a wider look at a situation. Doesn't make it
> true, though.
>
> Now, did the Holocaust happen? Well, we've always been told it has
> (I'm 20, wasn't there -and I'm glad of that-) so why should we
> question it? there is evidence, and witnesses. All the eveidence could
> have been faked, and perpetrators and witnesses coerced in their
> confessions/witnesses, BUT that seems like quite a titanic effort...
> at that point we could also claim that WWII never happened, and that
> all evidence is manufactured. In the end, for a person like me, who is
> just 20 and hasn't lived even remotly the horrors of WWII wether it
> did happen (not only the Holocaust, but the war as a whole) is not the
> most important thing. for as hard as I can try, I have no true felt
> feeling for that period, as I lost nobody I knew in it nor did I
> suffer any pain, so for me it has never happened (in the sense that
> having not lived it, it has a feeling comparable to an event told in a
> novel to me). What is vital nowadays is that the knowledge of what has
> happened (or what is said to have happened) is metabolised in
> something useful, such as the repulsion for war and other such events.
> Wether the holocaust happened or not, it is unclaimable that an event
> like it is an acceptable thing in any case, era or situation. If that
> is understood, it is good. If people (even only one) can beleave that
> it has been (or could be) a good solution to something, then wether it
> already happened or not looses even more importance, as a new
> occourrence of it would overshadow any past one.
>
> Sometimes too much effort is spent in being sorry for the past, and
> not enough is done to avoid falling in the same pitfalls again, and
> that is truly horrible. A few people going around making documentaries
> regarding the never-occourance of the Holocaust are nothing compared
> to that.
>
> This all said, it was definitely a post (the op, and perhaps mine too)
> which would have found better housing elsewhere. Anyhow, I posted this
> anyways as the thread has already been bumped out of spam bin for many
> users, and anyone who has the unfortunate habit of blocking all google
> groups posters won't be bothered by this either.
>
> PS: since it seems from previous psots I've made that my rushed
> writing seems to leave my writing too open to interpretation I'll make
> one point clear: I am convinced that the Holocaust in fact did take
> place, and do not agree with the negationist's views.


It's because people are so gullible.

The only groups I know about that indulge in Holocaust denial are:
Islamic extremists, white supremacy and Hamas. No sensible person
could have any reason to deny it and so there is no legitimate reason
to really discuss it. Irrespective of the points they raise, they are
really not worth discussing IMHO.

For some reason it is very easy to hijack the Holocaust, and Nazism,
for a group's own political gain. That might be because of the emotion
that these events naturally invoke. Some Scientologists call
Psychology a Nazi pseudo-science and go to great lengths to
demonstrate that it was Psychologists that thought up and executed the
Holocaust. Others like to watch Max Mosley's video and accuse him of
being Nazi because he likes S&M, and he is Oswald Mosley's son. At the
end of the day, these Holocaust deniers, some wacky Scientologists and
Max Mosley haters are all really no different. They jump on a
bandwagon and try to steer it in a particular direction to suit their
own outcomes.

Holocaust deniers would have to be the most dangerous and deserve to
be shut down from saying whatever they like. Free speech should only
be for people that know how to reason sensibly.

Kimi Fan

On Apr 26, 8:20 pm, Igor <nob...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> > Free speech should only
> > be for people that know how to reason sensibly.
>
> Oh yeah? And who gets to decide that? You? The Simon Weisenthal Center?

Me.

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.... Footbullet.

Igor

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:04:49 -0400, forty wrote:

> St Georges Day April 23rd wrote:
>> Judea Declares War on Germany: A Critical Look at the Holocaust and
>> WWII
>>
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...774203343&hl=en
>>
>> How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel wartime
>> propaganda? This fascinating documentary investigates the myths
>> surrounding the legend.
>>
>> www.ihr.org
>
> F**king lying eye witnesses - the lot of them! All thousands of them!

You'd think that with an alleged 3+ million Jews murdered in an industrial
killing operation the likes of which the world had never seen before and
has never seen since, one could do a little better than "eyewitness
testimony." I'm sure that in the Middle Ages there were lots of people who
were willing to testify that they saw their next door neighbours flying
buck-naked in the moonlight on broomsticks, but I'm going to need a bit
more evidence than that before I can accept their story.

How about some autopsy reports showing death by poison gas? There aren't
any. How about some specs or blueprints on how the gas chambers were
actually constructed and operated? Nada. How about examining the gas
chambers themselves? Well, they don't exist anymore, we are told. They were
destroyed by the Nazis (along with all other evidence), and all we have
left are postwar "reconstructions." Anyone else find it an interesting
coincidence that the only concentration camps in which the Germans are
alleged to have gassed people just happen to be the same ones that fell
into Soviet hands after the war?

Boy, those Nazis must have been some smart to have removed *every single
trace* of physical evidence in one of the largest mass exterminations in
world history. Either that, or.... it didn't happen?
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Igor

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:46:28 GMT, Brian Robertson wrote:

> St Georges Day April 23rd wrote:
>> Judea Declares War on Germany: A Critical Look at the Holocaust and
>> WWII
>>
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...774203343&hl=en
>>
>> How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel wartime
>> propaganda? This fascinating documentary investigates the myths
>> surrounding the legend.
>>
>> www.ihr.org
>
> Has anyone else ever noticed this simple truth: the people who are
> keenest to deny the holocaust are always the most likely people to want
> to repeat it.
>

Sorry, can't say I have. I've heard a number of radio interviews with Mark
Weber of the IHR and I can safely say that exterminating Jews is not part
of their agenda (though their headquarters out in California have been
firebombed a number of times by members of the Jewish Defense League, which
has been recognized by the FBI as a terrorist organization).
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