Bolivia's 'Death Road' claims life of U.S. mountain biker

Tom Sherman

Mike Vandeman wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:35:25 -0500, Tom Sherman
> <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Mike Vandeman blathered:
>>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:22:55 -0700 (PDT), "maguahiker@gmail.com"
>>> <maguahiker@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> You guys are INCREDIBLY stupid! How do you think he ended up off-road?
>>>> ?He rode off-road! DUH!
>>>>
>>>> Actually you're the one that is tarded. The roads are narrow...no room
>>>> for error. blind corners, etc. this happens all the time. You're just
>>>> an idiot. Like I said...take a flyover of the area next time.
>>> That has nothing to do with the fact that he rode the bike off of the
>>> road.
>> Dude, if the guy hit a low barrier wall and went off the bike over the
>> wall, he was no longer riding the bike. Duh! If the deceased lost
>> control and was sliding on the ground, he was no longer riding the bike,
>> whether or not he was in contact with it. Duh!
>
> That's part of mountain biking. It happens all the time. It certainly
> doesn't make him a hiker! He was mountain biking.

Mikey V. must think that crossing the Rocky Mountains by riding on the
paved shoulder of I-70 is mountain biking.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

marika

"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> You are allowed to lie on the internet. That's what he did. But that
> makes him a liar.
> --


knew that was coming. Thanks

mk5000

"No, don't say that. We're not surrounded until they're all around of us."
Piper: --Charmed

marika

"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
> It all goes to accountability and therefore credibility - if a sock puppet
> becomes discredited, it can be tossed for a new one.

Doesn't really good socking require running at least 4 simultaneously, with
all of them supporting each other's views? Rather than tossing one sock and
then creating another one later.

If the poster isn't using multisox all at once, then having only one
identity but using a pseudonym doesn't really accomplish the purpose you've
described

The more interesting sock is when someone uses an apparently real name, but
several people use the account but don't remember or care to learn what the
other users have said

now those are more fun

mk5000

"I was all in the bar when driftaa
Shorty damn came over then she hit the floor now
See through dress long hair light brown eyes
Look like Ms. Bo Peek"--Snoop Dog




>

marika

"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fv35n6$1gn$1@registered.motzarella.org...

> The scary part is that Mikey V. probably believes on what he is posting,
> unlike some anonymous trolls whose intent is to stir things up.
>

you can't really have a good discussion without stirring something up, but
for the record Marika is my real name
so how's everyone reacting to Wright's presentation at the Press Club this
am.

How's everyone reacting to the Nierian thing

http://allafrica.com/stories/200804281085.html

marika

"Siskuwihane" <Siskuwihane1@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:871ddd27-8568-48d9-94e3-8384a5455986@24g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

Not sure if that's directed towards me or not, my real name and where
I live is posted elsewhere. My nic doesn't make my opinion,
experiences or knowledge any less valid than someone who uses their
real name on their account.

-----------

Interesting factoid.

mk5000

"I'm the life of the party
(Every time I show up)
I'm the life of the party
(Every time I blow up)"--Snoop Dog

marika

"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> Not using your real name is a sure sign of an intent to deceive. In
> fact, it IS deception.
> --
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to



There can be other motivations involved. Anonymity to prevent spam or
something more loathsome. A lot of people have unlisted numbers and numbers
listed under phony names for the same reason.

It can be that the person posts in one group using a name and in another
group using another name and tries to keep the mail to and from each
separate

Could be different machines or whatever, but used for sorting

Could be that the person just identifies with a particular thought or idea
associated with the name and likes that name so uses it

I wouldn't take such great meaning in the choice of a handle or email
address for usenet as you have applied

Someone could be using what appears to be a real name and it isn't theirs,
and you'd never know.

I could get me an email address and call myself John Smith and you'd never
realize that I'm not unless I told you

That you are more comfortable talking to someone that appears to have an
anglo sounding name is one of those funny things about usenet that lots of
scam artists take advantage of. That's why all those Nigerians use anglo
sounding names and trick so many old ladies into sending them money

mk5000

"Yo, this next record right here, is a dedication
This dedicated to those, who've come to an end
Quit like Gladys Knight...
You know neither one of us wants
to be the first one to say goodbye"--waste of time, snoop dog

marika

"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> That's right, and your continual talking about ME is a very good use
> of your time. Idiot.
>

Good god. How insane. It's not about you, it's about Bolivia

mk5000

"You should bang this down on your block
All through your hood
Burnin trees...burnin trees
Ladies let the music run right through you"--snoop dog, cool

marika

"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> What do you mean, "if"?!

Excellent, the burning bridges part is the important thing.


>Use of a fictitious name is a sure sign of
> dishonesty.
>



I know the sock's name but that's it



mk5000

"Is what he said to a loc as I dipped on out
Or as we say on the Eastside, you Cripped on out
See the sunshine and palm trees, livin' it up
Don't forget the block boys givin' it up"--Sets up, Snoop Dog

Ronnie Guthrie

"Siskuwihane" <Siskuwihane1@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:14bdae95-b41b-431c-934c-9c25da2d079f@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 27, 10:24 pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:05:04 GMT, rhopk...@loainc.com wrote:
>> >So Mikey than the logical extension is that I simply need to ride my
>> >rode
>> >bike on the trail and I am rode riding, nice logic dipwit.
>>
>> >If you die while having sex wearing hiking boots did you die as a hiker,
>> >or
>> >in your case maybe wearing a sheep outfit while having sex you actually
>> >died
>> >as a sheep.
>>
>> >Keep the entertainment going, I use to think you were simply a troll and
>> >this was your way to get off since you probably could never get a woman
>> >to
>> >sleep with you, but I finally realized you are simply as stupid as you
>> >sound.
>>
>> If anyone can understand what you just said, please let us know. It's
>> not any English that I recognize.
>
> Not english that you recognize? Like when you wrote the word "boke"
> not once, TWICE!

Lol! Poor Moke :O)

maguahiker@gmail.com

Mike...you are such a paranoid schiz it is amazing...thanks for the
laughs.

Mike Vandeman

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:23:13 -0400, "marika" <marika5000@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:fv29ve$cqi$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>
>> It all goes to accountability and therefore credibility - if a sock puppet
>> becomes discredited, it can be tossed for a new one.
>
>Doesn't really good socking require running at least 4 simultaneously, with
>all of them supporting each other's views? Rather than tossing one sock and
>then creating another one later.
>
>If the poster isn't using multisox all at once, then having only one
>identity but using a pseudonym doesn't really accomplish the purpose you've
>described
>
>The more interesting sock is when someone uses an apparently real name, but
>several people use the account but don't remember or care to learn what the
>other users have said
>
>now those are more fun

You obviously have NO IDEA what you are talking about, LIAR.

>mk5000
>
>"I was all in the bar when driftaa
>Shorty damn came over then she hit the floor now
>See through dress long hair light brown eyes
>Look like Ms. Bo Peek"--Snoop Dog
>
>
>
>
>>
>
>
>
--
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humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

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Mike Vandeman

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:23:58 -0500, Tom Sherman
<sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:

>Mike Vandeman wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:35:25 -0500, Tom Sherman
>> <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mike Vandeman blathered:
>>>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:22:55 -0700 (PDT), "maguahiker@gmail.com"
>>>> <maguahiker@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> You guys are INCREDIBLY stupid! How do you think he ended up off-road?
>>>>> ?He rode off-road! DUH!
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually you're the one that is tarded. The roads are narrow...no room
>>>>> for error. blind corners, etc. this happens all the time. You're just
>>>>> an idiot. Like I said...take a flyover of the area next time.
>>>> That has nothing to do with the fact that he rode the bike off of the
>>>> road.
>>> Dude, if the guy hit a low barrier wall and went off the bike over the
>>> wall, he was no longer riding the bike. Duh! If the deceased lost
>>> control and was sliding on the ground, he was no longer riding the bike,
>>> whether or not he was in contact with it. Duh!
>>
>> That's part of mountain biking. It happens all the time. It certainly
>> doesn't make him a hiker! He was mountain biking.
>
>Mikey V. must think that crossing the Rocky Mountains by riding on the
>paved shoulder of I-70 is mountain biking.

Only if done on a mountain bike.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Mike Vandeman

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 04:16:09 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
<Siskuwihane1@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Apr 28, 12:45*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:07:43 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Apr 27, 8:28*pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >> Siskuwihane wrote:
>> >> > On Apr 27, 12:34 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> marika wrote:
>>
>> >> >>> "Mike Vandeman" <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>> >> >>>news:7l381494i6njtln3dfovh37g1pm2279pnt@4ax.com...
>> >> >>>> Every one of your posts is a lie, since you don't use your real name.
>> >> >>> when did they write the law(s) that require using real names and or
>> >> >>> telling the truth on usenet.
>> >> >> It all goes to accountability and therefore credibility - if a sock
>> >> >> puppet becomes discredited, it can be tossed for a new one.
>>
>> >> > Mike uses his real name and has ZERO credibilty.
>>
>> >> The scary part is that Mikey V. probably believes on what he is posting,
>> >> unlike some anonymous trolls whose intent is to stir things up.
>>
>> >Not sure if that's directed towards me or not, my real name and where
>> >I live is posted elsewhere. My nic doesn't make my opinion,
>> >experiences or knowledge any less valid than someone who uses their
>> >real name on their account.
>>
>> Not using your real name is a sure sign of an intent to deceive. In
>> fact, it IS deception.
>
>My real name is out there, don't be so lazy and do some real research.
>If it was on Travelocity.com you would have found it a long time ago.

You are hiding, a sure sign of a LIAR.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Mike Vandeman

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:37:49 -0400, "marika" <marika5000@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>news:1ila14peg2obrkk56kgjnl64i26g63kg8m@4ax.com...
>
>
>>
>> Not using your real name is a sure sign of an intent to deceive. In
>> fact, it IS deception.
>> --
>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>
>
>
>There can be other motivations involved. Anonymity to prevent spam or
>something more loathsome. A lot of people have unlisted numbers and numbers
>listed under phony names for the same reason.
>
>It can be that the person posts in one group using a name and in another
>group using another name and tries to keep the mail to and from each
>separate
>
>Could be different machines or whatever, but used for sorting
>
>Could be that the person just identifies with a particular thought or idea
>associated with the name and likes that name so uses it
>
>I wouldn't take such great meaning in the choice of a handle or email
>address for usenet as you have applied

When coupled with continual LYING, it's obvious that the intent is to
deceive.

>Someone could be using what appears to be a real name and it isn't theirs,
>and you'd never know.
>
>I could get me an email address and call myself John Smith and you'd never
>realize that I'm not unless I told you
>
>That you are more comfortable talking to someone that appears to have an
>anglo sounding name is one of those funny things about usenet that lots of
>scam artists take advantage of. That's why all those Nigerians use anglo
>sounding names and trick so many old ladies into sending them money
>
>mk5000
>
>"Yo, this next record right here, is a dedication
>This dedicated to those, who've come to an end
>Quit like Gladys Knight...
>You know neither one of us wants
>to be the first one to say goodbye"--waste of time, snoop dog
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande