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Old 25-04.-2008, 10:54 PM   #16
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The problem might have been that Basso still wants to win Grand Tour(s) and he saw that Astana didn't have a guaranteed place in the Giro or the Tour. And who knows if there will be an Astana next year? How old is Basso by the way?

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Good points : Astana are being boycotted by the GT organisers - so your guess make sense.

I think Basso is 29.
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Old 25-04.-2008, 11:01 PM   #17
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Good points : Astana are being boycotted by the GT organisers - so your guess make sense.

I think Basso is 29.



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Old 26-04.-2008, 12:40 AM   #19
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Predictably, the International Association of Professional Cycling Groups (AIGCP) throw out Liquigas
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Old 26-04.-2008, 01:07 AM   #20
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Cyclingnews had some quotes from other riders.

Funny enough, Simoni basically offered a "no comment" equivalent, not wanting to get into trouble. While DiLuca flat out stated that either the UCI remove the rule about banned riders or Liquigas should not be a Pro Tour team. Sour grapes?
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Old 26-04.-2008, 01:17 AM   #21
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So it's ok for LG to sign Basso, but there was a big stink when Disco did? Interesting.
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Old 26-04.-2008, 02:10 AM   #22
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So it's ok for LG to sign Basso, but there was a big stink when Disco did? Interesting.
Disco signed Basso when he was being linked to doping via OP, ie everyone knew (or at least suspected) he was a doper. That apparently didn't bother Bruyneel, who played innocent and signed him anyway, despite knowing full well that he was probably a doper and would probably continue to be a doper while at Disco.

Liquigas signed him after he (sort of) got caught, fessed up, and served his time.

Big difference.
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Old 26-04.-2008, 03:15 AM   #23
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Nobody has signed Jaksche.
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Old 26-04.-2008, 03:28 AM   #24
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Cyclingnews had some quotes from other riders.

Funny enough, Simoni basically offered a "no comment" equivalent, not wanting to get into trouble. While DiLuca flat out stated that either the UCI remove the rule about banned riders or Liquigas should not be a Pro Tour team. Sour grapes?
Sour grapes surely, but he does have a point. What is the point in having rules when they are not enforced consistently? And com'on, it shouldn't be that hard to enforce whatever rules they wrote.
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Old 26-04.-2008, 03:30 AM   #25
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Big difference.

I would argue the difference is Bruyneel tried to play like he was the most naive, stupid person on the planet and pretend Basso wasn't linked to OP. All the other teams knew full well he was going back on their agreement not to sign OP riders. IOW, he was being a not-so-sneaky shit.

Liquigas on the other hand seems to be giving a straight-up "fuck you" to the PT and the agreement amongst the PT teams not to sign riders who were caught doping. They are simply anticipating the demise of the PT which has for all intents and purposes already happened.
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Old 26-04.-2008, 03:32 AM   #26
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Sour grapes surely, but he does have a point. What is the point in having rules when they are not enforced consistently? And com'on, it shouldn't be that hard to enforce whatever rules they wrote.

It is if the "they" is now meaningless.
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Old 26-04.-2008, 04:31 AM   #27
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Nobody has signed Jaksche.

He's over the hill by now, not worth the bad publicity. If he was a few years younger he'd be on a pro continental team at least, probably a pro tour team.

The other teams whining about Liquigas signing Basso is pure crap. I think the two year suspension rule for doping is fair and for teams to suddenly reject that notion is most likely jealousy that they couldn't seal the deal themselves. However Basso could probably do a bit more for his public image by making an effort to show that he is riding clean, and perhaps speaking out against doping a bit more.
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Old 26-04.-2008, 04:50 AM   #28
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However Basso could probably do a bit more for his public image by making an effort to show that he is riding clean, and perhaps speaking out against doping a bit more.

Or he'll just keep on doing what he was doing. It's not like he was ever actually caught despite almost certainly being doped to the gills, as they say.
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Old 26-04.-2008, 05:03 AM   #29
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http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...cle_253999.html

"However, Liquigas have recently announced they intend to rip-up the ethics code and have gone ahead and signed Basso despite knowing it will anger the other teams."

Sounds very Bruyneel-esque to me.
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Old 26-04.-2008, 05:07 AM   #30
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What's the difference between Basso and Valverde... apart from one of them being from a country that takes the punishment of dopers seriously?
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