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Old 05-05.-2008, 06:58 PM   #46
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I agree the integrated seat masts are not the great idea. I don't buy that they make the bike stiffer, if anything I want a more compliant seat post! I can see that it make the bike torsionally stiffer either.
The resale and bike fit/test is an issue. But notice that most brands only have them on thier top of the line machine, intended for top end racing price is no problem sort of thing. Resale is a minor consideration when designing the absolute bike you can.
If you don't like it buy the next model down.

Back to the ceramic conversation a little more...SRAM are doing a BB30 (in combination with ZIPP?)

For BB30 to really take off you need Shimano Giant and Trek on board (ie large market volume). However shimano hasn't been that successful with tubeless wheels.
Down side to this point is all three above have products that keep the bearings the same size and width but within the frame....
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Old 05-05.-2008, 09:19 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Have their wheels improved over the years? The RD400s have probably the worst reviews ever on Road Bike Review


We don't sell them but have serviced enough to know that like their BBs, not the greatest reliability or service life. Lots of flash tho.
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Old 05-05.-2008, 09:21 PM   #48
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I agree the integrated seat masts are not the great idea. I don't buy that they make the bike stiffer, if anything I want a more compliant seat post! I can see that it make the bike torsionally stiffer either.
The resale and bike fit/test is an issue. But notice that most brands only have them on thier top of the line machine, intended for top end racing price is no problem sort of thing. Resale is a minor consideration when designing the absolute bike you can.
If you don't like it buy the next model down.

Back to the ceramic conversation a little more...SRAM are doing a BB30 (in combination with ZIPP?)

For BB30 to really take off you need Shimano Giant and Trek on board (ie large market volume). However shimano hasn't been that successful with tubeless wheels.
Down side to this point is all three above have products that keep the bearings the same size and width but within the frame....


Sram owns Truvativ, all their cranks are made by them. Sram, like FSA, are gadget driven.
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Old 06-05.-2008, 05:27 AM   #49
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I can buy the gadget comment for FSA (carbon everything, shaped this and that, strange hub flanges, over marketing of ceramic benefits).

Can you justify the same for SRAM? The is a fine line between gadget driven an design innovation/improvement.
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