Your thoughts on MUSIC (speakers) on an organized ride?

Percival Cornelius

Bill Sornson and I are about to drop the following dope collabo:

> Percival Cornelius wrote:
>> Bill Sornson and I are about to drop the following dope collabo:
>>
>>> Percival Cornelius wrote:
>>
>>>> It depends on the context of the ride. Believe it or not, not all
>>>> group rides take place in the country. On urban social bike rides
>>>> like LA's Midnight Ridazz, and often on Critical Mass and other
>>>> urban rides, one or more of the riders will pull a powerful sound
>>>> system on a trailer and play celebratory music for the group. I've
>>>> never heard any of the riders complain.
>>>
>>> Critical Mass riders being rude and inconsiderate? The hell you say.
>>
>> What part of "I've never heard any of the riders complain" failed to
>> penetrate your blood/brain barrier?
>
> That no oh-so-hip-slick-and-cool people complained about a clearly rude and
> inconsiderate behavior is hardly evidence that it isn't indeed crass and
> intrusive.
>
> Please have someone explain this to you.
>
> HAND

Your concern for the delicate ears and rural sensibilities of the people
who choose to be in major urban areas at rush hour on Friday nights is
touching. However, I can assure you that in my experience, none of those
bystanders has yet complained about the crass intrusion of upbeat music
into the usual symphony of car horns, air brakes, sirens, and revving
engines.

Try another angle.

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Percival Cornelius

Bill Sornson

Percival Cornelius wrote:
> Bill Sornson and I are about to drop the following dope collabo:
>
>> Percival Cornelius wrote:
>>> Bill Sornson and I are about to drop the following dope collabo:
>>>
>>>> Percival Cornelius wrote:
>>>
>>>>> It depends on the context of the ride. Believe it or not, not all
>>>>> group rides take place in the country. On urban social bike rides
>>>>> like LA's Midnight Ridazz, and often on Critical Mass and other
>>>>> urban rides, one or more of the riders will pull a powerful sound
>>>>> system on a trailer and play celebratory music for the group.
>>>>> I've never heard any of the riders complain.
>>>>
>>>> Critical Mass riders being rude and inconsiderate? The hell you
>>>> say.
>>>
>>> What part of "I've never heard any of the riders complain" failed to
>>> penetrate your blood/brain barrier?
>>
>> That no oh-so-hip-slick-and-cool people complained about a clearly
>> rude and inconsiderate behavior is hardly evidence that it isn't
>> indeed crass and intrusive.
>>
>> Please have someone explain this to you.
>>
>> HAND
>
> Your concern for the delicate ears and rural sensibilities of the
> people who choose to be in major urban areas at rush hour on Friday
> nights is touching. However, I can assure you that in my experience,
> none of those bystanders has yet complained about the crass intrusion
> of upbeat music into the usual symphony of car horns, air brakes,
> sirens, and revving engines.
>
> Try another angle.

Well, to be fair, I can see how speakers wouldn't be too unwelcome in a
"festival setting" like a Critical Crass ride or one of the various
parade-type events (costumes, themes, etc.) that take place for any number
of causes/reasons/occasions.

Still, the OP asked about "organized rides" and others mentioned "group
rides". A bicyclist with some sound system attached to his or her self or
rig is being obnoxious, rude and inconsiderate to other participants. Don't
believe me? Try showing up for a club ride or a century or a race and
blaring some songs. You'll get tons of stink-eyes and then be left to ride
alone, as no one will want to be near you.

Got tunes? Fine. Keep 'em to yourself.

HTH! BS

Tom Sherman

frkrygow@gmail.com aka Frank Krygowski wrote:
> [...]
> I think the natural way to fix this is to forbid amplification. If
> someone wants to sing, whistle, or play harmonica as they roll along,
> fine. If someone wants to tow a piano on a trailer, fine. (But who
> would do such a thing?? ;-)

Paging Chalo. Paging Chalo.

<http://youtube.com/watch?v=0DRGPSP4ulg> (1:45 to 2:12)

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Percival Cornelius

Bill Sornson and I are about to drop the following dope collabo:

> Still, the OP asked about "organized rides" and others mentioned "group
> rides".

And I answered his question, and those of the other posters as well.
Believe it or not, there are other kinds of organized and group rides than
club and training rides. Both of the rides I mentioned (Midnight Ridazz in
Los Angeles and Critical Mass worldwide) are group rides, and the former
is organized.

--
Percival Cornelius

Bill Sornson

Percival Cornelius wrote:
> Bill Sornson and I are about to drop the following dope collabo:
>
>> Still, the OP asked about "organized rides" and others mentioned
>> "group rides".
>
> And I answered his question, and those of the other posters as well.
> Believe it or not, there are other kinds of organized and group rides
> than club and training rides. Both of the rides I mentioned (Midnight
> Ridazz in Los Angeles and Critical Mass worldwide) are group rides,
> and the former is organized.

You removed all context from my comment, so I invite the reader to scroll up
a bit and see what was really said and why.

HTH

Percival Cornelius

Bill Sornson and I are about to drop the following dope collabo:

> Percival Cornelius wrote:
>> Bill Sornson and I are about to drop the following dope collabo:
>>
>>> Still, the OP asked about "organized rides" and others mentioned
>>> "group rides".
>>
>> And I answered his question, and those of the other posters as well.
>> Believe it or not, there are other kinds of organized and group rides
>> than club and training rides. Both of the rides I mentioned (Midnight
>> Ridazz in Los Angeles and Critical Mass worldwide) are group rides,
>> and the former is organized.
>
> You removed all context from my comment, so I invite the reader to scroll up
> a bit and see what was really said and why.

Believe it or not, trimming extraneous quoted text is a common practice on
Usenet and one that is generally encouraged (as is delineating one's
signature properly with two dashes and a space, but we'll save that for
next week's class).

Of course, if "the reader," who is no doubt hanging on the edge of his
seat waiting to see whether your words have been quoted out of
context, wishes to determine this for himself he certainly may go
back and re-read the other post. That's one of the reasons why
trimming quoted text is an accepted practice. He won't find anything that
changes the meaning of the text I left in, though. Questions were asked
about music on group/organized rides, and I answered them from my
perspective. There ain't much else to it.

Was there anything else you wanted to discuss, or are you just keeping me
on the line because you want somebody to talk to?

Bill Sornson

Percival Cornelius wrote:

> Was there anything else you wanted to discuss, or are you just
> keeping me on the line because you want somebody to talk to?

Huh?