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18-04.-2008, 05:35 AM
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Re: 'Inhumane' motorists drove OVER and around hit-and-run victim as he lay dying in the street
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:09:03 +0100, Tony Dragon wrote:
> Dead Paul wrote: >> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:20:37 +0100, Abo wrote: >> >>> Doug wrote: >>>> Doesn't this say it all about the mentality of the average car addict? >>>> >>>> "Motorists who left a cyclist to die in the road after he was knocked >>>> over by a stolen car were described as inhuman yesterday. >>>> >>>> Instead of stopping, they simply swerved around him, and detectives >>>> believe that one may even have driven over the badly injured Stephen >>>> Wills, breaking both his legs. >>>> >>>> By the time a passer-by finally raised the alarm, Mr Wills, 55, who >>>> had been riding home from a dinner, was already dead. >>>> >>>> The self-employed plasterer was cycling down a dual carriageway in >>>> Manchester at about 3.30am last Saturday when he was knocked over by a >>>> stolen VW Golf. The car was later found burnt-out nearby. >>>> >>>> Witnesses said that instead of stopping to help Mr Wills as crucial >>>> minutes ticked by, other motorists steered around his body >>> Maybe they were worried it was a staged hijack attempt, as shown in >>> countless movies and TV programmes? >> >> Yeah sure, lying in the middle of the carriageway where if he were a >> hijacker he could easily have been instantly killed - the victim was run >> over - I don't think so. Use your noddle, it was gone 3am, they were >> probably over the limit (alcohol) returning home from a club or >> wherever. >> >> > OK I'll bite. > You may or may not be right, but perhaps he was a bad hijacker who did > what you said, and by the way what do we know about the cyclist at that > time of night, was he 'over the limit (alcohol) returning home from a club > or wherever.'? << Mr Wills, 55, who had been riding home from a dinner, was already dead. >> He may have had a drop to drink, I don't know but even if he was blind drunk it's not an excuse for others to leave him to die. -- ___ _______ ___ ___ ___ __ ____ / _ \/ __/ _ | / _ \ / _ \/ _ |/ / / / / / // / _// __ |/ // / / ___/ __ / /_/ / /__ /____/___/_/ |_/____/ /_/ /_/ |_\____/____/ |
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18-04.-2008, 05:41 AM
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Re: 'Inhumane' motorists drove OVER and around hit-and-run victim as he lay dying in the street
"_" <jtayNOSPAMlor@hfDONTSENDMESPAMx.andara.com> wrote in message news:2xmqa0zmyrhe.1vd9x0e69fjdd.dlg@40tude.net... > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:39:01 +0100, ®i©ardo wrote: > >> Mortimer wrote: >>> " cupra" <NOcupra.sSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:66of4eF2kfig0U1@mid.individual.net... [...] Nowadays >>> you can call for help without even leaving your car. >>> >>> >> >> The trouble is that you could be fined for doing so! > Ummm... legitimate call to emergency services is, I beleive, allowable. |
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18-04.-2008, 07:01 AM
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Re: 'Inhumane' motorists drove OVER and around hit-and-run victim as he lay dying in the street
Dead Paul <dead_paul@no.reply> wrote:
> Yeah sure, lying in the middle of the carriageway How do you know that? > where if he were a hijacker he could easily have been instantly killed - > the victim was run over - I don't think so. Use your noddle, it was gone > 3am, they were probably over the limit (alcohol) returning home from a > club or wherever. More guesswork on your part. I do find it slightly gobsmacking that the police are complaining that no motorist stopped to help when the police themselves will not enter Moss Side unless they are in pairs, have bulletproof vests and an exit strategy. |
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18-04.-2008, 07:25 AM
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Re: 'Inhumane' motorists drove OVER and around hit-and-run victim ashe lay dying in the street
On 17 Apr, 09:21, Adrian <toomany2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <light google> > Ah, yes. Died of severe head injuries. No mention if he was wearing a helmet or not, which is unusual. |
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18-04.-2008, 07:27 AM
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Re: 'Inhumane' motorists drove OVER and around hit-and-run victim ashe lay dying in the street
On 17 Apr, 12:08, Doug <jag...@riseup.net> wrote:
> On 17 Apr, 09:13, " cupra" <NOcupra.sS...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Doug wrote: > > > Doesn't this say it all about the mentality of the average car addict? > > > > "Motorists who left a cyclist to die in the road after he was knocked > > > over by a stolen car were described as inhuman yesterday. > > > > Instead of stopping, they simply swerved around him, and detectives > > > believe that one may even have driven over the badly injured Stephen > > > Wills, breaking both his legs. > > > Terrible > > > > By the time a passer-by finally raised the alarm, Mr Wills, 55, who > > > had been riding home from a dinner, was already dead. > > > > The self-employed plasterer was cycling down a dual carriageway in > > > Manchester at about 3.30am last Saturday when he was knocked over by a > > > stolen VW Golf. The car was later found burnt-out nearby. > > > > Witnesses said that instead of stopping to help Mr Wills as crucial > > > minutes ticked by, other motorists steered around his body, and police > > > believe one actually drove over him. > > > So what were the witnesses doing in these crucial minutes, and who were > > they? > > Shouldn't you be more concerned about the motorists who just drove on > regardless? On my ride home yesterday I had a woman standing in the middle of the road waving at me. I just rode on without stopping, and that was at 5PM, stopping in a dodgy area of town at 3AM isn't the best. Of course a motorist is slightly safer, being in a locked car. A dark body in the gutter (where most cyclists inadvisably ride) isn't going to be noticed by many. |
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18-04.-2008, 11:31 AM
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Re: 'Inhumane' motorists drove OVER and around hit-and-run victim as he lay dying in the street
Steve Firth writtificated
>> Shouldn't you be more concerned about the motorists who just drove on >> regardless? > > Have you ever lived in Moss Side Duhg? <snip hysterical witterings> The area isn't too bad - there are certainly worse places in Manchester - Moss Side seems to have been cleaned up in the last two decades or so. That said, although I regularly walk through there, I don't live there. |
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19-04.-2008, 08:10 PM
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Re: 'Inhumane' motorists drove OVER and around hit-and-run victim as he lay dying in the street
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:01:28 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
> Dead Paul <dead_paul@no.reply> wrote: > >> Yeah sure, lying in the middle of the carriageway > > How do you know that? people are soooooooooooooooo thick. "cars being driven round the body" get it? maybe not. >> where if he were a hijacker he could easily have been instantly killed - >> the victim was run over - I don't think so. Use your noddle, it was gone >> 3am, they were probably over the limit (alcohol) returning home from a >> club or wherever. > > More guesswork on your part. At least it is an intelligent/educated guess. :-) > I do find it slightly gobsmacking that the police are complaining that no > motorist stopped to help when the police themselves will not enter Moss > Side unless they are in pairs, have bulletproof vests and an exit > strategy. -- ___ _______ ___ ___ ___ __ ____ / _ \/ __/ _ | / _ \ / _ \/ _ |/ / / / / / // / _// __ |/ // / / ___/ __ / /_/ / /__ /____/___/_/ |_/____/ /_/ /_/ |_\____/____/ |
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19-04.-2008, 10:55 PM
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Re: 'Inhumane' motorists drove OVER and around hit-and-run victim as he lay dying in the street
Dead Paul <dead_paul@no.reply> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:01:28 +0100, Steve Firth wrote: > > > Dead Paul <dead_paul@no.reply> wrote: > > > >> Yeah sure, lying in the middle of the carriageway > > > > How do you know that? > > people are soooooooooooooooo thick. > > "cars being driven round the body" > > get it? > maybe not. Does the body have to be in the middle of the carriageway in order for cars to be driven around it? You're right about people being "soooooooooooooooo thick", you're a perfect example. > >> where if he were a hijacker he could easily have been instantly killed - > >> the victim was run over - I don't think so. Use your noddle, it was gone > >> 3am, they were probably over the limit (alcohol) returning home from a > >> club or wherever. > > > > More guesswork on your part. > > At least it is an intelligent/educated guess. :-) No, it's a stupid assumption. > > I do find it slightly gobsmacking that the police are complaining that no > > motorist stopped to help when the police themselves will not enter Moss > > Side unless they are in pairs, have bulletproof vests and an exit > > strategy. No comment, eh? |
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20-04.-2008, 03:10 PM
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Re: 'Inhumane' motorists drove OVER and around hit-and-run victim ashe lay dying in the street
On 17 Apr, 13:27, "nully" <n...@null.null> wrote:
> Doug wrote: > > On 17 Apr, 09:13, " cupra" <NOcupra.sS...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Doug wrote: > > > > Doesn't this say it all about the mentality of the average car > > > > addict? > > > > > "Motorists who left a cyclist to die in the road after he was > > > > knocked over by a stolen car were described as inhuman yesterday. > > > > > Instead of stopping, they simply swerved around him, and > > > > detectives believe that one may even have driven over the badly > > > > injured Stephen Wills, breaking both his legs. > > > > Terrible > > > > > By the time a passer-by finally raised the alarm, Mr Wills, 55, > > > > who had been riding home from a dinner, was already dead. > > > > > The self-employed plasterer was cycling down a dual carriageway in > > > > Manchester at about 3.30am last Saturday when he was knocked over > > > > by a stolen VW Golf. The car was later found burnt-out nearby. > > > > > Witnesses said that instead of stopping to help Mr Wills as > > > > crucial minutes ticked by, other motorists steered around his > > > > body, and police believe one actually drove over him. > > > > So what were the witnesses doing in these crucial minutes, and who > > > were they? > > > Shouldn't you be more concerned about the motorists who just drove on > > regardless? > > > There seems to be a typical mindset among motorists that nothing > > should get in their way and they should get to where they are going as > > quickly as possible regardless. > > For once, Duhg is right. As a motorist I confirm that I wouldn't > interrupt my journey to aid Duhg if I passed him laid by the side of > the road. Well, actually, I *might* just possibly detour a little to > run over the old bastids head. > Well there you go then, a typical motorist's mindset, which places no value at all on human life, except their own, and where the right to drive as fast as possible takes precedence over everything else. -- World Carfree Network http://www.worldcarfree.net/ Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K. |
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20-04.-2008, 05:28 PM
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Re: 'Inhumane' motorists drove OVER and around hit-and-run victim as he lay dying in the street
Doug wrote:
> On 17 Apr, 13:27, "nully" <n...@null.null> wrote: >> Doug wrote: >>> On 17 Apr, 09:13, " cupra" <NOcupra.sS...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Doug wrote: >>>>> Doesn't this say it all about the mentality of the average car >>>>> addict? >> >>>>> "Motorists who left a cyclist to die in the road after he was >>>>> knocked over by a stolen car were described as inhuman yesterday. >> >>>>> Instead of stopping, they simply swerved around him, and >>>>> detectives believe that one may even have driven over the badly >>>>> injured Stephen Wills, breaking both his legs. >> >>>> Terrible >> >>>>> By the time a passer-by finally raised the alarm, Mr Wills, 55, >>>>> who had been riding home from a dinner, was already dead. >> >>>>> The self-employed plasterer was cycling down a dual carriageway in >>>>> Manchester at about 3.30am last Saturday when he was knocked over >>>>> by a stolen VW Golf. The car was later found burnt-out nearby. >> >>>>> Witnesses said that instead of stopping to help Mr Wills as >>>>> crucial minutes ticked by, other motorists steered around his >>>>> body, and police believe one actually drove over him. >> >>>> So what were the witnesses doing in these crucial minutes, and who >>>> were they? >> >>> Shouldn't you be more concerned about the motorists who just drove >>> on regardless? >> >>> There seems to be a typical mindset among motorists that nothing >>> should get in their way and they should get to where they are going >>> as quickly as possible regardless. >> >> For once, Duhg is right. As a motorist I confirm that I wouldn't >> interrupt my journey to aid Duhg if I passed him laid by the side of >> the road. Well, actually, I *might* just possibly detour a little to >> run over the old bastids head. >> > Well there you go then, a typical motorist's mindset, which places no > value at all on human life, except their own, and where the right to > drive as fast as possible takes precedence over everything else. Wrong again Doug. It's only you that "Nully" wants to run over and at any speed, it doesn't have to be fast. |
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20-04.-2008, 05:54 PM
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Re: 'Inhumane' motorists drove OVER and around hit-and-run victimas he lay dying in the street
Doug wrote:
> On 17 Apr, 13:27, "nully" <n...@null.null> wrote: >> Doug wrote: >>> On 17 Apr, 09:13, " cupra" <NOcupra.sS...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Doug wrote: >>>>> Doesn't this say it all about the mentality of the average car >>>>> addict? >>>>> "Motorists who left a cyclist to die in the road after he was >>>>> knocked over by a stolen car were described as inhuman yesterday. >>>>> Instead of stopping, they simply swerved around him, and >>>>> detectives believe that one may even have driven over the badly >>>>> injured Stephen Wills, breaking both his legs. >>>> Terrible >>>>> By the time a passer-by finally raised the alarm, Mr Wills, 55, >>>>> who had been riding home from a dinner, was already dead. >>>>> The self-employed plasterer was cycling down a dual carriageway in >>>>> Manchester at about 3.30am last Saturday when he was knocked over >>>>> by a stolen VW Golf. The car was later found burnt-out nearby. >>>>> Witnesses said that instead of stopping to help Mr Wills as >>>>> crucial minutes ticked by, other motorists steered around his >>>>> body, and police believe one actually drove over him. >>>> So what were the witnesses doing in these crucial minutes, and who >>>> were they? >>> Shouldn't you be more concerned about the motorists who just drove on >>> regardless? >>> There seems to be a typical mindset among motorists that nothing >>> should get in their way and they should get to where they are going as >>> quickly as possible regardless. >> For once, Duhg is right. As a motorist I confirm that I wouldn't >> interrupt my journey to aid Duhg if I passed him laid by the side of >> the road. Well, actually, I *might* just possibly detour a little to >> run over the old bastids head. >> > Well there you go then, a typical motorist's mindset, which places no > value at all on human life, except their own, and where the right to > drive as fast as possible takes precedence over everything else. > > -- > World Carfree Network > http://www.worldcarfree.net/ > Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K. > Where did he say anything about driving as fast as possible? He may wish to run over your head driving very, very slowly. -- Moving things in still pictures! |
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20-04.-2008, 07:33 PM
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Re: 'Inhumane' motorists drove OVER and around hit-and-run victim ashe lay dying in the street
On 20 Apr, 09:28, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Doug wrote: > > On 17 Apr, 13:27, "nully" <n...@null.null> wrote: > >> Doug wrote: > >>> On 17 Apr, 09:13, " �cupra" <NOcupra.sS...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> Doug wrote: > >>>>> Doesn't this say it all about the mentality of the average car > >>>>> addict? > > >>>>> "Motorists who left a cyclist to die in the road after he was > >>>>> knocked over by a stolen car were described as inhuman yesterday. > > >>>>> Instead of stopping, they simply swerved around him, and > >>>>> detectives believe that one may even have driven over the badly > >>>>> injured Stephen Wills, breaking both his legs. > > >>>> Terrible > > >>>>> By the time a passer-by finally raised the alarm, Mr Wills, 55, > >>>>> who had been riding home from a dinner, was already dead. > > >>>>> The self-employed plasterer was cycling down a dual carriageway in > >>>>> Manchester at about 3.30am last Saturday when he was knocked over > >>>>> by a stolen VW Golf. The car was later found burnt-out nearby. > > >>>>> Witnesses said that instead of stopping to help Mr Wills as > >>>>> crucial minutes ticked by, other motorists steered around his > >>>>> body, and police believe one actually drove over him. > > >>>> So what were the witnesses doing in these crucial minutes, and who > >>>> were they? > > >>> Shouldn't you be more concerned about the motorists who just drove > >>> on regardless? > > >>> There seems to be a typical mindset among motorists that nothing > >>> should get in their way and they should get to where they are going > >>> as quickly as possible regardless. > > >> For once, Duhg is right. As a motorist I confirm that I wouldn't > >> interrupt my journey to aid Duhg if I passed him laid by the side of > >> the road. Well, actually, I *might* just possibly detour a little to > >> run over the old bastids head. > > > Well there you go then, a typical motorist's mindset, which places no > > value at all on human life, except their own, and where the right to > > drive as fast as possible takes precedence over everything else. > > Wrong again Doug. It's only you that "Nully" wants to run over and at any > speed, it doesn't have to be fast.- I think it is outrageous of nully to say he'd run over Duhg's head. That would be far too quick and painless ... |
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20-04.-2008, 08:04 PM
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Re: 'Inhumane' motorists drove OVER and around hit-and-run victim as he lay dying in the street
Brian Whitehead wrote:
> On 20 Apr, 09:28, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> Doug wrote: >>> On 17 Apr, 13:27, "nully" <n...@null.null> wrote: >>>> Doug wrote: >>>>> On 17 Apr, 09:13, " ?cupra" <NOcupra.sS...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Doug wrote: >>>>>>> Doesn't this say it all about the mentality of the average car >>>>>>> addict? >> >>>>>>> "Motorists who left a cyclist to die in the road after he was >>>>>>> knocked over by a stolen car were described as inhuman >>>>>>> yesterday. >> >>>>>>> Instead of stopping, they simply swerved around him, and >>>>>>> detectives believe that one may even have driven over the badly >>>>>>> injured Stephen Wills, breaking both his legs. >> >>>>>> Terrible >> >>>>>>> By the time a passer-by finally raised the alarm, Mr Wills, 55, >>>>>>> who had been riding home from a dinner, was already dead. >> >>>>>>> The self-employed plasterer was cycling down a dual carriageway >>>>>>> in Manchester at about 3.30am last Saturday when he was knocked >>>>>>> over by a stolen VW Golf. The car was later found burnt-out >>>>>>> nearby. >> >>>>>>> Witnesses said that instead of stopping to help Mr Wills as >>>>>>> crucial minutes ticked by, other motorists steered around his >>>>>>> body, and police believe one actually drove over him. >> >>>>>> So what were the witnesses doing in these crucial minutes, and >>>>>> who were they? >> >>>>> Shouldn't you be more concerned about the motorists who just drove >>>>> on regardless? >> >>>>> There seems to be a typical mindset among motorists that nothing >>>>> should get in their way and they should get to where they are >>>>> going as quickly as possible regardless. >> >>>> For once, Duhg is right. As a motorist I confirm that I wouldn't >>>> interrupt my journey to aid Duhg if I passed him laid by the side >>>> of the road. Well, actually, I *might* just possibly detour a >>>> little to run over the old bastids head. >> >>> Well there you go then, a typical motorist's mindset, which places >>> no value at all on human life, except their own, and where the >>> right to drive as fast as possible takes precedence over everything >>> else. >> >> Wrong again Doug. It's only you that "Nully" wants to run over and >> at any speed, it doesn't have to be fast.- > > I think it is outrageous of nully to say he'd run over Duhg's head. > That would be far too quick and painless ... But nully didn't exclude running over the rest of him beforehand. |
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21-04.-2008, 04:17 AM
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Re: 'Inhumane' motorists drove OVER and around hit-and-run victim as he lay dying in the street
Doug wrote:
> On 17 Apr, 13:27, "nully" <n...@null.null> wrote: > > Doug wrote: > > > On 17 Apr, 09:13, " cupra" <NOcupra.sS...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Doug wrote: > > > > > Doesn't this say it all about the mentality of the average car > > > > > addict? > > > > > > > "Motorists who left a cyclist to die in the road after he was > > > > > knocked over by a stolen car were described as inhuman > > > > > yesterday. > > > > > > > Instead of stopping, they simply swerved around him, and > > > > > detectives believe that one may even have driven over the > > > > > badly injured Stephen Wills, breaking both his legs. > > > > > > Terrible > > > > > > > By the time a passer-by finally raised the alarm, Mr Wills, > > > > > 55, who had been riding home from a dinner, was already dead. > > > > > > > The self-employed plasterer was cycling down a dual > > > > > carriageway in Manchester at about 3.30am last Saturday when > > > > > he was knocked over by a stolen VW Golf. The car was later > > > > > found burnt-out nearby. > > > > > > > Witnesses said that instead of stopping to help Mr Wills as > > > > > crucial minutes ticked by, other motorists steered around his > > > > > body, and police believe one actually drove over him. > > > > > > So what were the witnesses doing in these crucial minutes, and > > > > who were they? > > > > > Shouldn't you be more concerned about the motorists who just > > > drove on regardless? > > > > > There seems to be a typical mindset among motorists that nothing > > > should get in their way and they should get to where they are > > > going as quickly as possible regardless. > > > > For once, Duhg is right. As a motorist I confirm that I wouldn't > > interrupt my journey to aid Duhg if I passed him laid by the side of > > the road. Well, actually, I might just possibly detour a little to > > run over the old bastids head. > > > Well there you go then, a typical motorist's mindset, which places no > value at all on human life, except their own, and where the right to > drive as fast as possible takes precedence over everything else. But Duhggie old chap, you repeatedly *approve* of people taking the law into their own hands! I personally dont think that xenophobic scrounging whiny old bastards like you should be allowed to live, but unfortunately the police dont permit despatching you to your long-overdue grave. No matter, time is on my side and you'll soon be poisoning the soil somewhere! |
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21-04.-2008, 04:58 AM
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Re: 'Inhumane' motorists drove OVER and around hit-and-run victim as he lay dying in the street
Doug wrote:
> Doesn't this say it all about the mentality of the average car addict? > > "Motorists who left a cyclist to die in the road after he was knocked > over by a stolen car were described as inhuman yesterday. > Given the location and time this doesn't surprise me. |
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