Mountain Bikers' Alleged "Love of Nature"

V-for-Vendicar

>> Figure we had fern trees growing at the North Pole in the Triassic
>> period and tell me more about this 'man made' global warming. I have
>> fern fossils I picked up on the shore of James Bay even.


"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote
> Unaware of plate tectonics, eh?

He's a RepubliKKKan. So he is completely unaware of everthing except
beer, the dog who's humping his toothless wife, and his Rust Bucket.

Bill Sornson

V-for-Vendicar wrote:
> "DI" <di9999@cox.net> wrote
>>> For someone loose with words, you are awful dumb. You 'assume' I
>>> mean the 'Hale' sun cycle which is 22 years.
>>>
>>> You conveniently forget about the Gleissberg cycle which is 87
>>> years 'or' Suess cycle which is 210 years or the Hallstatt cycle
>>> which is 2300 years or the Schwabe cycle which is 11 years.
>>>
>>> Then there are the carbon 14 sun cycles of 105, 131, 232, 385, 504,
>>> 805, 2,241 years.
>
> None of which can actually be said to exist, with the exception of
> the 22 year cycle.
>
> MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNN

You can't even quote correctly. Hint: DI did not write the above. He
wrote:

> Don't confuse him with facts, he can't understand them/

Obviously, he was spot on. ROTFL

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V-for-Vendicar

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> Not into science eh.

Soon is a politically motivated quack.



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> You might want to read a bit
He is associated with the ultra-KKKonservative George C. Marshall Institute,
where he recently co-authored Lessons and Limits of Climate History: Was
20th Century Climate Unusual? with KKKonservative Propagandist Sallie
Baliunas. The pair have also written for the Ultra-KKKonservative Fraser
Institute of Canada regarding Sun-climate connections. Soon and Baliunas
have generated controversy because their research was funded in part by the
American Petroleum Institute , a trade association involved in improper
influence over U.S. climate change policy.

He is chief science adviser to the Science and Public Policy Institute. A
one man "organization" created by KKKonservative Quack Fred Singer, who has
a long record of propagandizing for companies like Renolds Tobacco, by
denying that there was sufficient evidence to link cancer with smoking.

Ahahahahahahahahaha.....

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V-for-Vendicar

"DI" <di9999@cox.net> wrote
>> For someone loose with words, you are awful dumb. You 'assume' I mean
>> the 'Hale' sun cycle which is 22 years.
>>
>> You conveniently forget about the Gleissberg cycle which is 87 years 'or'
>> Suess cycle which is 210 years or the Hallstatt cycle which is 2300 years
>> or the Schwabe cycle which is 11 years.
>>
>> Then there are the carbon 14 sun cycles of 105, 131, 232, 385, 504, 805,
>> 2,241 years.

None of which can actually be said to exist, with the exception of the 22
year cycle.

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>>
>> Or the Upper Permain cycle that shows 2500 year sun cycles.
>>
>> Then you can get into the Milankovich earth cycles and on and on...
>>
>> Yup, global warming is all man made for sure eh. LOL!
>>
>> Figure we had fern trees growing at the North Pole in the Triassic period
>> and tell me more about this 'man made' global warming. I have fern
>> fossils I picked up on the shore of James Bay even.
>>
>> Mike
>
>
> Don't confuse him with facts, he can't understand them/
>

V-for-Vendicar

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> The top of the world had coniferous and fern trees and the equator was
> more desert like and dry.

Get back to us should Pangea reform over the next 100 years will ya....

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V-for-Vendicar

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
>> For someone loose with words, you are awful dumb. You 'assume' I mean
>> the 'Hale' sun cycle which is 22 years.
>>
>> You conveniently forget about the Gleissberg cycle which is 87 years 'or'
>> Suess cycle which is 210 years or the Hallstatt cycle which is 2300 years
>> or the Schwabe cycle which is 11 years.
>>
>> Then there are the carbon 14 sun cycles of 105, 131, 232, 385, 504, 805,
>> 2,241 years.

None of which can actually be said to exist, with the exception of the 22
year cycle.

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Jym Dyer

=v= I fixed the stupid thread title, in part because Earth Day
is coming and greenwashers will be out in force, trying to
peddle half-assed solutions in the form of cars that have only
marginal ecological value.
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Jym Dyer

=v= I fixed the stupid thread title, in part because Earth Day
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V-for-Vendicar

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> So you are not only ignorant of Science, but have no clue on the internet
> or how to read headers I see.

Translation: Mike Romain isn't smart enough to configure his quoter
correct.y

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V-for-Vendicar

"Bill Sornson" <askme@ask.me> wrote
> You can't even quote correctly. Hint: DI did not write the above. He
> wrote:

Translation, you can't set up your newsreader correctly.

Meanwhile....

A Drought in Australia, a Global Shortage of Rice - New York Times


April 17, 2008
The Food Chain
A Drought in Australia, a Global Shortage of Rice
By KEITH BRADSHER

DENILIQUIN, Australia - Lindsay Renwick, the mayor of this dusty southern
Australian town, remembers the constant whir of the rice mill. "It was our
little heartbeat out there, tickety-tick-tickety," he said, imitating the
giant
fans that dried the rice, "and now it has stopped."

The Deniliquin mill, the largest rice mill in the Southern Hemisphere, once
processed enough grain to meet the needs of 20 million people around the
world.
But six long years of drought have taken a toll, reducing Australia's rice
crop
by 98 percent and leading to the mothballing of the mill last December.
Ten thousand miles separate the mill's hushed rows of oversized silos and
sheds
- beige, gray and now empty - from the riotous streets of Port-au-Prince,
Haiti,
but a widening global crisis unites them.

The collapse of Australia's rice production is one of several factors
contributing to a doubling of rice prices in the last three months -
increases
that have led the world's largest exporters to restrict exports severely,
spurred panicked hoarding in Hong Kong and the Philippines, and set off
violent
protests in countries including Cameroon, Egypt, Ethiopia, Haiti, Indonesia,
Italy, Ivory Coast, Mauritania, the Philippines, Thailand, Uzbekistan and
Yemen.

Drought affects every agricultural industry based here, not just rice - from
sheepherding, the other mainstay in this dusty land, to the cultivation of
wine
grapes, the fastest-growing crop here, with that expansion often coming at
the
expense of rice.

The drought's effect on rice has produced the greatest impact on the rest of
the
world, so far. It is one factor contributing to skyrocketing prices, and
many
scientists believe it is among the earliest signs that a warming planet is
starting to affect food production.

It is difficult to definitely link short-term changes in weather to
long-term
climate change, but the unusually severe drought is consistent with what
climatologists predict will be a problem of increasing frequency.
Indeed, the chief executive of the National Farmers' Federation in
Australia,
Ben Fargher, says, "Climate change is potentially the biggest risk to
Australian
agriculture."

Drought has already spurred significant changes in Australia's agricultural
heartland. Some farmers are abandoning rice, which requires large amounts of
water, to plant less water-intensive crops like wheat or, especially here in
southeastern Australia, wine grapes. Other rice farmers have sold fields or
water rights, usually to grape growers.

Scientists and economists worry that the reallocation of scarce water
resources
- away from rice and other grains and toward more lucrative crops and
livestock
- threatens poor countries that import rice as a dietary staple.

The global agricultural crisis is threatening to become political, pitting
the
United States and other developed countries against the developing world
over
the need for affordable food versus the need for renewable energy. Many
poorer
nations worry that subsidies from rich countries to support biofuels, which
turn
food, like corn, into fuel, are pushing up the price of staples. The World
Bank
and the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization
called
on major agricultural nations to overhaul policies to avoid a social
explosion
from rising food prices.

With rice, which is not used to make biofuel, the problem is availability.
Even
in normal times, little of the world's rice is actually exported - more than
90
percent is consumed in the countries where it is grown. In the last
quarter-century, rice consumption has outpaced production, with global
reserves
plunging by half just since 2000. A plant disease is hurting harvests in
Vietnam, reducing supply. And economic uncertainty has led producers to
hoard
rice and speculators and investors to see it as a lucrative or at least safe
bet.

All these factors have made countries that buy rice on the global market
vulnerable to extreme price swings.

Senegal and Haiti each import four-fifths of their rice, and both have faced
mounting unrest as prices have increased. Police suppressed violent
demonstrations in Dakar on March 30, and unrest has spread to other
rice-dependent nations in West Africa, notably Ivory Coast. The Haitian
president, René Préval, after a week of riots, announced subsidies for rice
buyers on Saturday.

Scientists expect the problem to worsen. The Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate
Change, set up by the United Nations, predicted last year that even slight
warming would lower agricultural output in the tropics and subtropics.
Moderate warming could benefit crop and pasture yields in countries far from
the
Equator, like Canada and Russia. In fact, the net effect of moderate warming
is
likely to be higher total global food production in the next several
decades.
But the scientists said the effect would be uneven, and enormous quantities
of
food would need to be shipped from areas farther from the Equator to feed
the
populations of often less-affluent countries closer to the Equator.
The panel predicted that even greater warming, which might happen by late in
this century if few or no limits are placed on greenhouse gas emissions,
would
hurt total food output and cripple crops in many countries.

Survival Techniques

Paul Lamine N'Dong, an elder in Joal, Senegal, worries that hot weather and
failing rains have already crippled his village's crop of millet, a coarse
grain
eaten locally and traded for rice.
Sitting on a concrete dais reserved for elders, Mr. N'Dong said on a recent
morning, "The price rises very quickly, which means we really have to go and
look for money."

"It is live or die," he said.

For farmers in a richer nation like Australia, the effects of the current
drought are already significant.

Mike Romain

V-for-Vendicar wrote:
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
>> So you are not only ignorant of Science, but have no clue on the internet
>> or how to read headers I see.
>
> Translation: Mike Romain isn't smart enough to configure his quoter
> correct.y
>
> MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN
>
>
Zinggg right on by. Way over your head eh.

LOL!

Mike

the Moderator

"V-for-Vendicar" <Justice@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote in message
news:nyPOj.52396$612.46496@read1.cgocable.net...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
>> So you are not only ignorant of Science, but have no clue on the internet
>> or how to read headers I see.
>
> Translation: Mike Romain isn't smart enough to configure his quoter
> correct.y
>
> >MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN

I love this guys sig line.

V-for-Vendicar

>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
>>> So you are not only ignorant of Science, but have no clue on the
>>> internet or how to read headers I see.


V-for-Vendicar wrote:
>> Translation: Mike Romain isn't smart enough to configure his quoter
>> correct.y
>>
>> MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> Zinggg right on by. Way over your head eh.

Translation: Mike Romain isn't smart enough to configure his quoter
correctly

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Mike Romain

V-for-Vendicar wrote:
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
>>>> So you are not only ignorant of Science, but have no clue on the
>>>> internet or how to read headers I see.
>
>
> V-for-Vendicar wrote:
>>> Translation: Mike Romain isn't smart enough to configure his quoter
>>> correct.y
>>>
>>> MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
>> Zinggg right on by. Way over your head eh.
>
> Translation: Mike Romain isn't smart enough to configure his quoter
> correctly
>
> MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN
>
>

I gotta just love your sig line, it suits you to a T.

You are giving your country a bad name though by being such a stoopid
person.

Mike