Shimano Dura-Ace Or Ultegra

Originally Posted by Peter@vecchios

Hmmm, cables are cables. Few replace the original Campagnolo OR shimano with the maker's cables. If the LBS owber says it's a 'Campy thing', I wonder about his, well I just wonder. About 95% of the bikes we sell, but about 50% of the bikes we work on are Campagnolo and one thing we haven't had to ever do is warranty a shift lever from Campagnolo, but perhaps 3-4 dozen shimano.

Both do the same thing, albeit, a little differently. Durability of things like chains, cogsets, chainrings are a wash. BUT hubs and shifters, Campagnolo seem much more robust. As for chains, we sell DA and 105 level and both work and last the same. I think DA chains are made the same place as all shimano chains and the only difference is plating. There is nothing unique that makes a DA chain last 2000km longer than any other, IME. All, if taken care of and as measured by a Rohloff chain checker, last about 3000-3500 miles.

Just my observations and opinions after skulking in the bike biz as a wrench and owner for a coupla decades.

Originally Posted by dhk2

Peter, appreciate you sharing the warranty experience here. My DA 9 sp is still shifting crisply at four years/17K miles, but of course that's just a sample of one.

BTW, does "vecchio's" refer to the name of your bike shop? I ask because I was riding with a guy this weekend who was on a Pegoretti he bought in Seattle. IIRC, he mentioned the name of the shop was "Vecchio".