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30-03.-2008, 07:36 PM

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Re: Sandwiches While Riding?

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OT: So are you coming over the pond to the Old World this summer for riding... ehm work?

Well, some plans changed a bit. The current research isn't something we'll be allowed to present. More importantly, though, a cycling buddy in Auckland said to come on down, so the family and I are going to spend two weeks in New Zealand, with the bike, of course.

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Oh well, too bad you are not coming over to this side of the pond. Enjoy yourself over there...

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07-04.-2008, 10:14 PM

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Re: Sandwiches While Riding?

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I make sure to eat a good breakfast. I usually have a couple of bagels and some cereal with milk. Maybe a banana as well as I leave the house.

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Really ? I never eat breakfast and just fuel on the bike. All the advice I've had is that unless you can eat three hours before getting on the bike you'll be better off not eating before hand - possibly a bar a few minutes before. I have to say when I started not having breakfast ( which intially does feel like a leap of faith) I felt much better on rides of any length.
I just use carb gels and some anti-oxidant gels when doing anything over 2 hours - but this has to be a matter of taste (some on them aren't that palatable) . I like them more than the idea of some sandwiches stuffed in the back of my cycling shirt and actually eating (chewing something) is probably going to mean getting off the bike.

One of the most important parts of your nutirition is your recovery meal. You want to eat carbs and some protein within half an hour of finishing any ride over two hours to help replace your muscle glycogen. I know the sports science jury is still out ( or arguing) about some of this but it seems to work for me.

Well - my two cents.

08-04.-2008, 01:36 AM	#34
Powerful Pete Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 3,362	Re: Sandwiches While Riding? Monroe, how long are the rides you go on without any breakfast, just out of curiosity. I would never go riding without eating something beforehand... but of course YMMV... __________________ De Rosa Planet Campagnolo Per Sempre! PAOLO BETTINI CAMPIONE DEL MONDO x 2!

08-04.-2008, 02:06 AM

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Re: Sandwiches While Riding?

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Thanks, but there are plenty of other things I would like from the US before Fig Netwons. If you can figure out a way to DHL me a six pack of everything bagels and a wee bit of scallion cream cheese (only from New York City), then I would become a very happy Italian.

That and maybe a New York Reuben sandwich. Not riding food, but with one of those babies I would have the calories for a 250 km ride...

If I could ship you one of either of these, I would Pete. There are very few things on Earth more delightful to eat than a Reuben Sandwich from either Katz's or Stage Deli in NYC. I am a diabetic and can't eat these things anymore, but there are times when I just can't walk past either of these delis and not get a Reuben. Of course I have it for lunch for about 3 days.

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08-04.-2008, 03:17 AM

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Brian, thanks. I mean it. A Reuben from Katz's is well worth the extra 5 kg that it entails... some time in the not too distant future I will be back in the Big Apple, will let you know, and we will go there for a Reuben together.

And the next day for Pastrami...

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08-04.-2008, 05:09 AM

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Re: Sandwiches While Riding?

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Good breakfast is a must. Consider as said before, cereals with milk or yoghurt, before longer rides you can eat plain (bianco in italian) pasta as well. But be aware that you might be very "opened" after cereals, so go to the toillet if you can...

08-04.-2008, 05:17 AM

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True for a heavy meal such as lunch/dinner; don't see why that should be the case for breakfast unless you are stuffing yourself. At least to me, breakfast is a light meal. Unlike an afternoon or evening ride, when the body has some fuel from a previous meal, a morning ride without breakfast is like running a vehicle with an empty fuel tank. Just my 2 cents to your 2 cents...

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Virenque Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia Posts: 1,213	Re: Sandwiches While Riding? True...it has to be a light one. Than eat on a bike as well if ride is longer than 2-3 hours...

08-04.-2008, 08:41 AM

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Ask your MD if you could possibly eat one while riding, so as to burn the glucose as it hits your blood!

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08-04.-2008, 09:21 AM

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Ask your MD if you could possibly eat one while riding, so as to burn the glucose as it hits your blood!

LOL. Modern medicine. And then power away in a solo 50km break at 48kph...

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08-04.-2008, 09:25 AM

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Re: Sandwiches While Riding?

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Monroe, how long are the rides you go on without any breakfast, just out of curiosity.

I would never go riding without eating something beforehand... but of course YMMV...

I usually do either 80 or 150 km when training. So the longer ones take somewhere between 4- 4.5 hrs ( depending on the wind and who else is out on the road

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Its interesting that there seems to be a general feeling here that you should eat breakfast (or at least eat within 3 hrs of riding) - I'll dig out the information I have regarding this if you're interested.

08-04.-2008, 12:35 PM

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Re: Sandwiches While Riding?

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I usually do either 80 or 150 km when training. So the longer ones take somewhere between 4- 4.5 hrs ( depending on the wind and who else is out on the road

Use whatever works best for you, but remember, not everyone is the same. The wisdom behind not eating within 3 hours of exercising is that some of the energy that you would be using exercising is actually be used digesting the food. If this really were the case, then eating when you are riding would also be bad. What they should be saying is not to eat a large meal within 3 hours of exercising.

Now about your inability to ride and chew at the same time........

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08-04.-2008, 01:17 PM

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Re: Sandwiches While Riding?

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Now about your inability to ride and chew at the same time........

Haha - Well I fell into that one.

I can actually chew gum and walk at the same time - but those 'give you jaw cramp' power bars, the only thing I've experimented with (chewing wise) while riding, didn't work out too well - I think I scared some people.

I think your right in saying 'each to his/her own.'
FYI some of the other info I have on this breaks down to something like this;

Eating (either simple sugars or complex carbs) = elevated blood sugar and so insulin release leading to low glucose levels in the blood.
= reduced ability to utilize stored fatty acids.
= higer insulin means faster muscle glycogen depletion

Unless you waited three hours

It does seem counter intuitive - but I have noticed the difference ( for me). All I can suggest is that if you've not tried just jumping out of your bed and into your cleats and away - find out. Just make sure you have some fuel to take with you, sandwiches or otherwise.

08-04.-2008, 03:04 PM

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Re: Sandwiches While Riding?

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Haha - Well I fell into that one.

You've got to be careful using generalities as such. It's better to think of foods in terms of how quickly they metabolize. The glycemic index does just that, indexing foods according to how quickly/how much they metabolize/raise blood sugar.

Gels and other "high performance" foods or supplements don't do anything that the right foods won't. Some, like gels, are intended for delivery of quick energy, which means having a high glycemic index, which means that in the absence of exercise or high intensity work of some sort, they would cause a spike in blood sugar. Some sport "foods" do exactly what you don't want, and some are nothing more than packaged sugar.

A good idea might be to find a diabetic friend. Diabetics get by doing exactly what you alluded to: managing blood sugar levels so as to avoid sharp spikes and lows. And diabetics do that without gels and the like.

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